DJK -- I don't think anyone is really saying that Russia rigged it. This was an indirect attack, not a direct one like changing the results themselves. This was an indirect attack, not a direct one like changing the results themselves.
Some people have, though not many. Thought it was worth being clear.
Just some thoughts not a part of the argument: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-23/leaked-dnc-emails-confirm-democrats-rigged-primary-reveal-extensive-media-collusion
*I wonder how Bernie supporters feel about this. I wonder which side they voted for and are arguing for now. Or have they over looked the content of the emails and gone along with this Russia propaganda fear campaign set out by the corporate media and US government who are bought off by the same people. And who also own the Military industrial complex and want to go to war with Russia for more money. Maybe Bernie being a sell-out is part of the evil Russian Propaganda campaign*
As a Bernie supporter of sorts, I can say my feeling is that the issues surrounding Hillary Clinton are at least mostly just the establishment and not personally due to Clinton herself. I also don't think they are very big problems.
My support has always been for Clinton over Trump. Clinton has issues, bit Trump is worse.
I also believe Russia did to some degree intentionally spread misinformation around the election and may have been involved in some of the leaks.
I don't think Russia rigged the election.
If i came up with 50 articles that proved my point every one of them would be shot down as a bias or fake web site.
Libs are well known for their unbiased reporting and acceptance of views that dont reflect their own..
So your argument is, there is no point making an argument?
That's a good one.
"Has it occurred to you that Russia might want to intentionally make it look like they would start a war with Clinton to favor Trump in order to help their actual agenda? Because that seems like quite a plausible idea to me."
Now that you mention it, it seems plausible. But with the way things are going in Syria and Hillary wanting to implement a no fly-zone over there which would lead the US to shoot down Russian fighters. Russia has been invited there to fight against ISIS and the rebels, while US and allies are there illegally (according to UN law).
Conflict doesn't mean war though. Russia and the US have been in various sorts of conflict for decades, but it has never been actual war in that time.
I don't think Russia is being misleading that they would have conflict with Clinton over these sorts of things, but I think they may well be posturing about actual armed conflict.
"Get it yet? Vaccines are the SOURCE of our modern-day epidemics of chronic disease. There is a dark, deadly truth about the vaccine industry, the CDC and vaccine scientists everywhere. The truth is that vaccines are the vector by which cancer and other diseases are spread through the human population."
-Linked Article
I think they make a pretty good case that the Washington Post's argument isn't good though. WP was making it out that the issue was very extensive, which seems at least a bit much.
Doesn't matter. They got something wrong once. It seems that Warghoul (who's just repeating Trump's twitter feed of course), is implying that means we shouldn't take this report seriously either.
They are the same thing though. The Craig Timberg article as in the OP is using Propornot as a source. The NaturalNews site does a pretty reasonable job of arguing that Propornot are not a good source, and therefore the article is lacking.
"Get it yet? Vaccines are the SOURCE of our modern-day epidemics of chronic disease. There is a dark, deadly truth about the vaccine industry, the CDC and vaccine scientists everywhere. The truth is that vaccines are the vector by which cancer and other diseases are spread through the human population."
-Linked Article
I think they make a pretty good case that the Washington Post's argument isn't good though. WP was making it out that the issue was very extensive, which seems at least a bit much.
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Yep, so, Russia wanted a candidate that would work with them instead of wanting to go to war with them... Good!!!
Has it occurred to you that Russia might want to intentionally make it look like they would start a war with Clinton to favour Trump in order to help their actual agenda?
Because that seems like quite a plausible idea to me.
And both the CIA and FBI agreed that Russia deliberately interfered in this election.
Some people have, though not many. Thought it was worth being clear.
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As a Bernie supporter of sorts, I can say my feeling is that the issues surrounding Hillary Clinton are at least mostly just the establishment and not personally due to Clinton herself. I also don't think they are very big problems.
My support has always been for Clinton over Trump. Clinton has issues, bit Trump is worse.
I also believe Russia did to some degree intentionally spread misinformation around the election and may have been involved in some of the leaks.
I don't think Russia rigged the election.
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So your argument is, there is no point making an argument?
That's a good one.
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Conflict doesn't mean war though. Russia and the US have been in various sorts of conflict for decades, but it has never been actual war in that time.
I don't think Russia is being misleading that they would have conflict with Clinton over these sorts of things, but I think they may well be posturing about actual armed conflict.
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They are the same thing though. The Craig Timberg article as in the OP is using Propornot as a source. The NaturalNews site does a pretty reasonable job of arguing that Propornot are not a good source, and therefore the article is lacking.
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I think they make a pretty good case that the Washington Post's argument isn't good though. WP was making it out that the issue was very extensive, which seems at least a bit much.
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Has it occurred to you that Russia might want to intentionally make it look like they would start a war with Clinton to favour Trump in order to help their actual agenda?
Because that seems like quite a plausible idea to me.
And both the CIA and FBI agreed that Russia deliberately interfered in this election.
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