Not totally but there are still some elements there. As absurd as that may sound...
Not really. Conservatism isn't a monolith. I doubt there is anything from Fox that isn't contained with conservatism.
I've given a few examples there of how it had a liberal bias by; anti-Trump, won't go against the banks, won't go against Hillary, omission. All you have said that is Absurd, Not really, I doubt... I think your going to have to come up with a better argument than that. But it is probably mostly conservative bias, but will still protect their own, and have hints of a liberal bias in that way. Fox compared to some of the 'dark' online sources could also be seen as more liberal.
A bias that is less conservative and more liberal is not the same as liberal.
Anti Trump bias is also not a liberal thing- even if associated with liberals.
I only said it had elements of liberal I didn't say it was liberal. They will still serve to protect the elites (Hillary). But this is only one group that does not have a totally liberal bias, doesn't change that the rest of them are bias. Maybe we should argue that the media has an elite bias or establishment bias.
Elite bias not really. Establishment bias definitely- that's the media's greatest bias.
But moving the argument forth now... What if there was a bias, does this mean it lies to you or distorts the truth or tries to manipulate you?! How deep does the rabbit hole go!
Not very deep. The media's bias only got so far as to choose stories in certain ways and talk about them in certain ways. They aren't using subliminal messaging or anything to condition people.
And for as much bias as there is in the media, there is in the everyday viewer. Republicans won't generally watch liberal media and liberals won't generally watch conservative media. The bias of the media is really just a reflection of society's bias.
Wait are you saying Fox news is liberally biased? That's absurd.
Not totally but there are still some elements there. As absurd as that may sound...
Not really. Conservatism isn't a monolith. I doubt there is anything from Fox that isn't contained with conservatism.
I've given a few examples there of how it had a liberal bias by; anti-Trump, won't go against the banks, won't go against Hillary, omission. All you have said that is Absurd, Not really, I doubt... I think your going to have to come up with a better argument than that. But it is probably mostly conservative bias, but will still protect their own, and have hints of a liberal bias in that way. Fox compared to some of the 'dark' online sources could also be seen as more liberal.
A bias that is less conservative and more liberal is not the same as liberal.
Anti Trump bias is also not a liberal thing- even if associated with liberals.
So yeah there they are helping the anti-Trump movement. How come Hillary didn't get asked about her Husbands sexual assault activities? Why aren't they trying to get Hillary to go to Trial? They spent hardly and time on Wikileaks and the emails.
Wait are you saying Fox news is liberally biased? That's absurd.
Not totally but there are still some elements there. As absurd as that may sound...
Not really. Conservatism isn't a monolith. I doubt there is anything from Fox that isn't contained with conservatism.
So yeah there they are helping the anti-Trump movement. How come Hillary didn't get asked about her Husbands sexual assault activities? Why aren't they trying to get Hillary to go to Trial? They spent hardly and time on Wikileaks and the emails.
Wait are you saying Fox news is liberally biased? That's absurd.
And you need to compare that to republican bias or your data is not complete to make the claims you are making to the degree we are talking here.
You still need to produce differentiation between biased and non biased information.
You like making things hard, you can't come up with your own differentiation? Why do I "NEED" to do this?
You are the one making claims. I am the one being the skeptic.
You NEED to do this if you want to make claims about the bias in the media that are not only strong but broad reaching and very important.
If you all you want to say is the mainstream media were pretty biased against Trump, I won't take issue. That's a reasonable assessment and is probably true.
If you really want to dig into this any further though, then we need scientific level studies on this because this is something science is involved in.
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But yeah on liberal bias, you can tell it in the way the talk and argue (Or rather don't argue lol). It is always about the person not the facts or evidence. This is what so much of the media focused on Trump was his character, which was mostly made up BS anyways.
Easy to say.
I'll repeat what I said earlier, we need a practical definition of bias and objective standard of measurement.
Any other method of determining bias is going to be riddled with concerns of its own bias.
Bias: Pro-Hillary, anti-Trump. How to measure... The time the media spends on anti-Trump propaganda compared to pro-Hellary. Or Liberal bias.
So bias can't be anti-Hillary or pro-Trump?
You still need to produce differentiation between biased and non biased information. Time taken by biased information is also an incomplete measure. It does not take into account the ammount of biased information actually contained in that time or how biased that information actually is.
And then you neec to consider omission bias where relevant information is excluded not misleading information included. And you need to measure the ammount of bias there as compared to inclusion bias and by measure I mean quantify.
Then you'll need to develop controls to account for factors inherent to all journalism that could produce bias in the information that is not in the process.
Then you'll need to appy this methodology to the content of at least a hundred news networks content over the course over months or years of this election cycle.
@Rodyle
But yeah on liberal bias, you can tell it in the way the talk and argue (Or rather don't argue lol). It is always about the person not the facts or evidence. This is what so much of the media focused on Trump was his character, which was mostly made up BS anyways.
Easy to say.
I'll repeat what I said earlier, we need a practical definition of bias and objective standard of measurement.
Any other method of determining bias is going to be riddled with concerns of its own bias.
I think this is something that about which it is very difficult to determine what exactly is the case.
How do you determine and measure bias objectively?
Elite bias not really. Establishment bias definitely- that's the media's greatest bias.
Not very deep. The media's bias only got so far as to choose stories in certain ways and talk about them in certain ways. They aren't using subliminal messaging or anything to condition people.
And for as much bias as there is in the media, there is in the everyday viewer. Republicans won't generally watch liberal media and liberals won't generally watch conservative media. The bias of the media is really just a reflection of society's bias.
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A bias that is less conservative and more liberal is not the same as liberal.
Anti Trump bias is also not a liberal thing- even if associated with liberals.
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Not really. Conservatism isn't a monolith. I doubt there is anything from Fox that isn't contained with conservatism.
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Wait are you saying Fox news is liberally biased? That's absurd.
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And you need to compare that to republican bias or your data is not complete to make the claims you are making to the degree we are talking here.
You are the one making claims. I am the one being the skeptic.
You NEED to do this if you want to make claims about the bias in the media that are not only strong but broad reaching and very important.
If you all you want to say is the mainstream media were pretty biased against Trump, I won't take issue. That's a reasonable assessment and is probably true.
If you really want to dig into this any further though, then we need scientific level studies on this because this is something science is involved in.
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So bias can't be anti-Hillary or pro-Trump?
You still need to produce differentiation between biased and non biased information. Time taken by biased information is also an incomplete measure. It does not take into account the ammount of biased information actually contained in that time or how biased that information actually is.
And then you neec to consider omission bias where relevant information is excluded not misleading information included. And you need to measure the ammount of bias there as compared to inclusion bias and by measure I mean quantify.
Then you'll need to develop controls to account for factors inherent to all journalism that could produce bias in the information that is not in the process.
Then you'll need to appy this methodology to the content of at least a hundred news networks content over the course over months or years of this election cycle.
Have you done that? No?
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Easy to say.
I'll repeat what I said earlier, we need a practical definition of bias and objective standard of measurement.
Any other method of determining bias is going to be riddled with concerns of its own bias.
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How do you determine and measure bias objectively?
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