Stein can barely get on the ballot. That's not easy, but it's a lot easier than sweeping reform. She's also under no scrutiny, while literally every stutter of Clinton's is blasted across the media as evidence she's dying. She also knows she can promise whatever she wants, because she'll never have to live up to it.
Stein's not a great or effective candidate. She just has nothing to lose.
Absolutely. The best thing for her right now is to simply garner attention.
In the Q&A vaccines came up, and she's walking that annoying line again that vaccines are fine, just not the corrupt agencies and corporations behind them.
I still find such comments quite concerning, because anything that could encourage people not to vaccinate or impair people's access to vaccines is still an unacceptable affront to the wellbeing of the people. I mean, this is something that could feasibly result in the death of literal billions if it aids in the superbug problem getting out of hand. We NEED to be careful. We NEED people to be willing to trust the medical system.
As long as there's any real reasons to suspect Stein would take action against vaccines, I can't offer any support for her.
At least this is a potentially promising sign of her walking back the whole thing. Here's hoping.
Not to mention the Green Party's candidate is a doctor who doesn't even understand how medicine works.
Hell, at least Ben Carson was qualified at something, even if it wasn't politics.
For a former neurosurgeon, Carson seems to have a shockingly poor understanding of modern science. He has qualifications, but I certainly wouldn't put much trust in his knowledge.
Then she's a bad candidate and I won't vote for her; If she can't get these arguments right, I'm not interested. I don't byy organic, and I won't buy this either. But, that doesn't change that the green platform is on the whole good.
"The Green Party calls for a complete, thorough, impartial, and independent investigation of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, including the role of the administration of George W, Bush, various U.S. based corporations and interests, and other nations and third parties."
Haven't got a clue what to make of that.
Ummmm... What? A reinvestigation of something that happened five years ago? Why? What could be found of real worth? Please don't tell me this trying to appeal to conspiracy nuts.
Also y'all being against homeopathy obviously don't know what it means, unless you're totally convinced that every ailment or pain whatsoever ought to be cured with a pill. Homeopathy doesn't equal being anti-vax and often just points to corporate interests in and the impersonal nature of our medical system that could use more focused care and less prescriptions.
Homeopathy is the belief that ailments can be cured by taking a small amount of a plant or chemical and repeatedly diluting it in water, often by factors of a trillion or more, to the point where statistically not even a single molecule of the original plant or chemical is likely to remain. Homeopaths believe that the water molecules will form "water memories" of the now-gone substances, which will magically grant the preparation curative properties.
Homeopathy is not a catch-all term for holistic medicine. It's a very specific system of very obviously fraudulent methods. I get the sense from your post here that you don't actually have a clue what it means. I suggest reading the Wikipedia page.
Not to mention that is also based on the idea that ANY symptoms observed within an arbitrary period of completely uncontrolled activity are the result of the substance that has been diluted AND therefore this substance will cure any disease that produces these symptoms. A series of logical steps so ludicrous, no sane, honest and unbiased individual could possibly support. Homeopathy thrives off people being convinced of it's efficacy from anecdotal experience and then learning about the 'theory' behind it, now so biased they can't see the obvious wholes in the logic just as they didn't see the obvious whole in the logic that just because a few people took a 'treatment' and then got better, the 'treatment' can be said to have made them better and not their immune system fought it off or any number of things they did (including possibly take actual medicine- they don't check for this) caused their recovery. Something as simple as onion is now attributed the ability to cure literally dozens of distinct symptoms.
Dozens of experiments have been conducted using actual scientific rigour and they have not only shown no evidence for the efficacy of homeopathy, but have positively shown pretty conclusively that homeopathy doesn't work.
So yeah, there's no real argument to be had that supporting homeopathy is not a dumb idea.
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And while where at it, anti-vax arguments are based on debunked studies and wild extrapolations from extremely isolated cases where a bad reaction actually did happen. Sure, vaccines can cause problems. But so can cars. In fact, cars kill a lot more people, and contribute to serious environment damage. Does that mean that we should support car manufacture? No, because for one there are things we can do improve these issues (safety systems, car share services, electric cars and fully sustainable fuel) but also because cars provide such a huge advantage to the quality of life in society that they are worth such a cost. The same applies to vaccines- there are things we can do to reduce the downsides, and the downsides aren't at all high enough that they negate the advantages.
As with homeopathy, anti-vax support is dangerous and dumb.
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But on a positive note, while these positions are nigh unforgivable in my eyes, the rest of the green platform is pretty good, which unsurprising to me given the shared name with other country's green parties who have similar good policies. I expect that if this party becomes bigger in the future they will drop all connections to anti-vax and homeopathy support. At that point, I would favor them similarly to the democratic party, ahead if the democratic candidate is someone like Clinton rather than like Sanders or Obama. This could happen during this election cycle, not that it matters much of anything because I'm not voting in this election or any future ones, because there other elections to worry about that I am actually allowed to participate in .
The Green Party itself has a reasonable platform that I would support. Stein herself isn't all that impressive and says some dumb things that panders a little hard to the folks that Whole Foods panders to as well, i.e., folks who want to be healthy but talk about crystals. I'm fine with folks being dumb, though, being dumb and opposing GMOs in a way that halts monocropping and global strong-arming of local economies to embrace them is fine by me if it comes off the support of worried moms. We entered a war for less than that, at least ending the commodification of genetic plant material is a worthwhile endeavor based on false facts. Also y'all being against homeopathy obviously don't know what it means, unless you're totally convinced that every ailment or pain whatsoever ought to be cured with a pill
Every ailment or pain ought to, and can only, be cured with something that can actually cure it. Homeopathy cures nothing, and is therefore a waste of time and money. Pills aren't the only form of treatment, but that does not in any way make homeopathy a viable option for the same reason it doesn't make shouting or looking at a wall a viable option. Just as it would be directly against the public interest to advocate sing-a-long as a treatment, so with homeopathy. If Jill Stein does not believe even personally believe that it works, but supports it to appeal to her voterbase, then she is directly knowingly going against her duty as a politician for votes. That is nigh unforgivable.
She's anti vaccination and pro homeopathy, apparently.
EDIT: She's not hugely anti-vax, but she's been called out for dog-whistle stuff before.
Big downside. I don't much about her, but it will pretty hard to overcome the downside of supporting ineffective, and therefore life destroying, medicine. This is literally a matter of life and death.
Absolutely. The best thing for her right now is to simply garner attention.
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I still find such comments quite concerning, because anything that could encourage people not to vaccinate or impair people's access to vaccines is still an unacceptable affront to the wellbeing of the people. I mean, this is something that could feasibly result in the death of literal billions if it aids in the superbug problem getting out of hand. We NEED to be careful. We NEED people to be willing to trust the medical system.
As long as there's any real reasons to suspect Stein would take action against vaccines, I can't offer any support for her.
At least this is a potentially promising sign of her walking back the whole thing. Here's hoping.
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For a former neurosurgeon, Carson seems to have a shockingly poor understanding of modern science. He has qualifications, but I certainly wouldn't put much trust in his knowledge.
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Ummmm... What? A reinvestigation of something that happened five years ago? Why? What could be found of real worth? Please don't tell me this trying to appeal to conspiracy nuts.
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Not to mention that is also based on the idea that ANY symptoms observed within an arbitrary period of completely uncontrolled activity are the result of the substance that has been diluted AND therefore this substance will cure any disease that produces these symptoms. A series of logical steps so ludicrous, no sane, honest and unbiased individual could possibly support. Homeopathy thrives off people being convinced of it's efficacy from anecdotal experience and then learning about the 'theory' behind it, now so biased they can't see the obvious wholes in the logic just as they didn't see the obvious whole in the logic that just because a few people took a 'treatment' and then got better, the 'treatment' can be said to have made them better and not their immune system fought it off or any number of things they did (including possibly take actual medicine- they don't check for this) caused their recovery. Something as simple as onion is now attributed the ability to cure literally dozens of distinct symptoms.
Dozens of experiments have been conducted using actual scientific rigour and they have not only shown no evidence for the efficacy of homeopathy, but have positively shown pretty conclusively that homeopathy doesn't work.
So yeah, there's no real argument to be had that supporting homeopathy is not a dumb idea.
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And while where at it, anti-vax arguments are based on debunked studies and wild extrapolations from extremely isolated cases where a bad reaction actually did happen. Sure, vaccines can cause problems. But so can cars. In fact, cars kill a lot more people, and contribute to serious environment damage. Does that mean that we should support car manufacture? No, because for one there are things we can do improve these issues (safety systems, car share services, electric cars and fully sustainable fuel) but also because cars provide such a huge advantage to the quality of life in society that they are worth such a cost. The same applies to vaccines- there are things we can do to reduce the downsides, and the downsides aren't at all high enough that they negate the advantages.
As with homeopathy, anti-vax support is dangerous and dumb.
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But on a positive note, while these positions are nigh unforgivable in my eyes, the rest of the green platform is pretty good, which unsurprising to me given the shared name with other country's green parties who have similar good policies. I expect that if this party becomes bigger in the future they will drop all connections to anti-vax and homeopathy support. At that point, I would favor them similarly to the democratic party, ahead if the democratic candidate is someone like Clinton rather than like Sanders or Obama. This could happen during this election cycle, not that it matters much of anything because I'm not voting in this election or any future ones, because there other elections to worry about that I am actually allowed to participate in
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Every ailment or pain ought to, and can only, be cured with something that can actually cure it. Homeopathy cures nothing, and is therefore a waste of time and money. Pills aren't the only form of treatment, but that does not in any way make homeopathy a viable option for the same reason it doesn't make shouting or looking at a wall a viable option. Just as it would be directly against the public interest to advocate sing-a-long as a treatment, so with homeopathy. If Jill Stein does not believe even personally believe that it works, but supports it to appeal to her voterbase, then she is directly knowingly going against her duty as a politician for votes. That is nigh unforgivable.
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Big downside. I don't much about her, but it will pretty hard to overcome the downside of supporting ineffective, and therefore life destroying, medicine. This is literally a matter of life and death.
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