So were you thinking of adding a custom card to the cube that said "You may add 3 artifact lands of your choice to your deck" and then that card would be drafted as normal?
I did not know Inferno was legal. Very interesting option to have, and a lot of good comments so far.
Some of the discussion reminds me of my results with Savage Twister. Thought it would be a nice payoff in green ramp sweeping away everything but yout payoff, but it has been a bit tricky to get it to work. If you actually wipe away everything you aren’t that sad that your elf(/-es) die, but if you need it early to save time it is basically uncastable.
I wonder how much you can leverage the instant-speed though.
First, I think it is almost definitely worse than a lot of different red combat tricks. Second, if we ignore that and just look at how this card would play out in a typical Peasant cube/deck.. I think it is slightly below par for a card that could be OK to run. 4 mana for a near guaranteed win in combat is still expensive and hard to play on defence. Turning one loosing battle to a trade and another trade to a win will be rare.
Wasn't this seen as really good before? I think I remember people being high on this when I first put my cube together, although perceptions might already have been dwindling by then. That would have been early 2014.
I can see it, as a hard to remove finisher it could perhaps have been one of the best top-end blue creatures back in the day.
This might be the first instance of a blue bounce-spell having the nonland-rider. It would make sense if so, this wouldn't really be fun if it could hit lands.
Anyone tried it? I put this in a BR intro deck I created for teaching purposes and it played very well in that environment. I'v sorta been curious about it since then. Seems like it could do a lot of work if your black/red decks sometimes would be happy to run Trumpet Blast or Dark Triumph. But I guess those decks are more often red/white and are running Rally the Peasants?
Disciple of the Vault is interesting as thopter and servo-generation could provide some cross-synergies between artifact matters in BX and sacrifice-decks in BY (probably BR).
EDIT: If I wasn't so tired I might have tried to clean up that sentence with some punctuation or perhaps even grammar.
Seems way too slow on its own. It would either have to start out bigger or have a cheaper way to grow. But I suppose if you have enough of an artifact theme in the guild so that it reliably hits the table as a 4/4 and sometimes 5/5 it starts to look interesting.
Related question: What guild is the best fit for the artifacts-matter archetype? Is it doable within all three Esper-pairs?
Nekrataal is not 'good against a color', it's 'slightly worse against a color', which is far less problematic.
I agree with this.
There's also the "you are black, so fewer of the other drafters are black"-argument. (More true for the BB-cost Nekrataal, than the more splashable Terror/Dark Banishing/Doom Blade.)
I run both Terror and Dark Banishing for nostalgia reasons, but don't really like the colour-specific issues. Other than that I run Shriekmaw and Nekrataal. One of those could be Skinrender I suppose.
And I agree with Leelue: There's a big difference between colour-restrictions and other restrictions. Sure, sometimes your Go for the throat doesn't work on their creature, but when Doom Blade doesn't work, it doesn't work on 50% of their deck.
I like Civilized Scholar more, since an 0/2 defender is kinda useless and Scholar being both a threat and a looter is nice. Scholar is pretty much a 2/1 looter that turns into a 5/1 when you want it to
It's an 0/1 but it's interesting. I think I need to play with it, seems like it could do some work. I am imagining games were I just use him as a regular looter but they are forced to keep something back not to suddenly take 5.
Probably, if you don't mind silver border. Not sure if I'm keen on checking the artists names on every card in play every time I play something. I guess for OCD-people with all the same basics it pretty much reads "landfall-untap".
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Some of the discussion reminds me of my results with Savage Twister. Thought it would be a nice payoff in green ramp sweeping away everything but yout payoff, but it has been a bit tricky to get it to work. If you actually wipe away everything you aren’t that sad that your elf(/-es) die, but if you need it early to save time it is basically uncastable.
I wonder how much you can leverage the instant-speed though.
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I can see it, as a hard to remove finisher it could perhaps have been one of the best top-end blue creatures back in the day.
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Anyone tried it? I put this in a BR intro deck I created for teaching purposes and it played very well in that environment. I'v sorta been curious about it since then. Seems like it could do a lot of work if your black/red decks sometimes would be happy to run Trumpet Blast or Dark Triumph. But I guess those decks are more often red/white and are running Rally the Peasants?
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EDIT: If I wasn't so tired I might have tried to clean up that sentence with some punctuation or perhaps even grammar.
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Related question: What guild is the best fit for the artifacts-matter archetype? Is it doable within all three Esper-pairs?
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I agree with this.
There's also the "you are black, so fewer of the other drafters are black"-argument. (More true for the BB-cost Nekrataal, than the more splashable Terror/Dark Banishing/Doom Blade.)
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And I agree with Leelue: There's a big difference between colour-restrictions and other restrictions. Sure, sometimes your Go for the throat doesn't work on their creature, but when Doom Blade doesn't work, it doesn't work on 50% of their deck.
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It's an 0/1 but it's interesting. I think I need to play with it, seems like it could do some work. I am imagining games were I just use him as a regular looter but they are forced to keep something back not to suddenly take 5.
Probably, if you don't mind silver border. Not sure if I'm keen on checking the artists names on every card in play every time I play something. I guess for OCD-people with all the same basics it pretty much reads "landfall-untap".
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