yeah, my manabase for the deck has changed slightly. bastion isnt making my cut at all currently. just did another 5-0 so hopefully the list will be posted in a day or two. but the manabase is :
4 elrazi temple
4 brushland
3 cavern of souls
2 ghost quarter
1 tectonic edge
3 windswept heath
2 forest
1 plains
1 wastes
1 temple garden
i dont think we want lands that ever come into play tapped. aka no razorvirge thicket (sp?)
also, cant decide if evo. is different enough to warrant its own primer/page/ stop posting on this forum? ... it plays as bant 3/4 of the time.
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Did you remove voice and finks only to reduce the likeliness of mana-screw or for power level reasons?
i never played voice. the GW on turn 2 doesnt happen often enough really, its awkward. Finks im testing without, but its a 5th value sac for evolution... probably worth it for consistency, also, its a good value sac to fetch from a hierarch... but we probably want to grab a displacer, or a silver bullet generally. same with using a birds of paradise in the list, the 5th 1 drop helps consistency for the 2/3 mana toolbox( i.e. turn 2 kataki, or eidolon, gaddock teeg.)
bunch of question marks... gearhulk as a tutorable wrath/restore balance is interesting. deadeye harpooner as a white shriekmaw... finks, or strangleroot geist in the spellskite spot is what i had been using but having a skite out with toolbox creature seems good to me... maybe 1 dismember in the 75...idk.
other sb ideas= choke, warping wail. tested relic and rest in peace, but relic can be found with stirrings, and doesnt hurt our synergy so thats valuable.
Khokden, on mtgo has been playing the deck longer than myself, but not sure if he uses this forum.
hey, so i posted a 5-0 with the evolution list that y'all linked to...
i have also played bant a lot.
the scg video that ari lax did was with an older take on the deck, the newer lists posting results drop much of the color package. no voice, 0-1 finks. just eldrazi package with tutor-ability/ consistency.
ive tested a little with keeping a blush splash for a couple drowners, but it loses some of the perks of the deck. having more basics, more ghost quarters is nice. with the blue splash it felt like bad bant eldrazi (since there arent many good blue cards to tutor for , just drowner, and mulldriter)
still working.tweaking... currently testing an abzan eldrazi evolution list with the black splash for : orzhov pontiffsiege rhinoshriekmawsin collector and fatal push ... but it loses the land hate/extra basics as well. it at least brings more tutor options to the table and more hard removal for creatures (push)
yeah blood moon isn't in many decks right now ... 1 in affinity usually and UR prison. but UR prowess is on decline. gifts storm maybe. random grixis decks may use it.
talismans/skyspawners are better than wastes MB... and post board you can add some counters/enchantment removal.
Edit: can anyone attest to sea gate wreckage? Any experiences? I feel like it takes a LONG time for it to be active but has the ability to singlehandedly win the game eventually.
um YES.
i played bant at baltimore regionals... tied for 10th, but i had two games when wreckage went online (first tournament testing it) and i drew 5, and 6 cards off of it. i used to use GQ in this spot. sold on sea gate for now.
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4 elrazi temple
4 brushland
3 cavern of souls
2 ghost quarter
1 tectonic edge
3 windswept heath
2 forest
1 plains
1 wastes
1 temple garden
i dont think we want lands that ever come into play tapped. aka no razorvirge thicket (sp?)
also, cant decide if evo. is different enough to warrant its own primer/page/ stop posting on this forum? ... it plays as bant 3/4 of the time.
i never played voice. the GW on turn 2 doesnt happen often enough really, its awkward. Finks im testing without, but its a 5th value sac for evolution... probably worth it for consistency, also, its a good value sac to fetch from a hierarch... but we probably want to grab a displacer, or a silver bullet generally. same with using a birds of paradise in the list, the 5th 1 drop helps consistency for the 2/3 mana toolbox( i.e. turn 2 kataki, or eidolon, gaddock teeg.)
my current list:
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Acidic Slime
3 Eldrazi Displacer
1 Eternal Witness
1 Deadeye Harpooner
1 Spellskite
4 Matter Reshaper
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Reality Smasher
4 Thought-Knot Seer
1 Thragtusk
Spells:
4 Ancient Stirrings
3 Eldritch Evolution
4 Path to Exile
2 Engineered Explosives
3 Brushland
3 Cavern of Souls
4 Eldrazi Temple
2 Forest
2 Ghost Quarter
1 tectonic edge
1 Plains
1 Temple Garden
1 Wastes
3 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Bastion
1 Cataclysmic Gearhulk
1 Worship
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Blessed Alliance
1 Eidolon of Rhetoric
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Kataki, War's Wage
1 Reclamation Sage
4 Relic of Progenitus
2 Stony Silence
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
bunch of question marks... gearhulk as a tutorable wrath/restore balance is interesting. deadeye harpooner as a white shriekmaw... finks, or strangleroot geist in the spellskite spot is what i had been using but having a skite out with toolbox creature seems good to me... maybe 1 dismember in the 75...idk.
other sb ideas= choke, warping wail. tested relic and rest in peace, but relic can be found with stirrings, and doesnt hurt our synergy so thats valuable.
Khokden, on mtgo has been playing the deck longer than myself, but not sure if he uses this forum.
i have also played bant a lot.
the scg video that ari lax did was with an older take on the deck, the newer lists posting results drop much of the color package. no voice, 0-1 finks. just eldrazi package with tutor-ability/ consistency.
ive tested a little with keeping a blush splash for a couple drowners, but it loses some of the perks of the deck. having more basics, more ghost quarters is nice. with the blue splash it felt like bad bant eldrazi (since there arent many good blue cards to tutor for , just drowner, and mulldriter)
still working.tweaking... currently testing an abzan eldrazi evolution list with the black splash for : orzhov pontiff siege rhino shriekmaw sin collector and fatal push ... but it loses the land hate/extra basics as well. it at least brings more tutor options to the table and more hard removal for creatures (push)
Been good in my testin
talismans/skyspawners are better than wastes MB... and post board you can add some counters/enchantment removal.
Tron is an easy matchup in my experience, I'm 12-2 personally since I've been piloting the deck. ¯\_(';')_/¯
um YES.
i played bant at baltimore regionals... tied for 10th, but i had two games when wreckage went online (first tournament testing it) and i drew 5, and 6 cards off of it. i used to use GQ in this spot. sold on sea gate for now.