I don't think I've ever had any problems with Elves or merfolk with Bx Eldrazi. In playtesting all I end up doing is running more sweepers like Languish and tides of Sorrow. All my eldrazi that I care about survive these attacks except for Thought-Knot Seer and Wasteland Strangler. Also, elves give my Funeral Charm some easy targets since they are mostly 1 toughness.
The main thing is that Wasteland Strangler could be worth nothing if there isn't any creature on the board or we have nothing in exile, whereas Matter Reshaper gives value even if it dies.
This problem with Strangler happens to me all the time. More than I get him to hit, actually.
It happens to me as well, but even despite that I'll continue to run Strangler because when it does hit, it's really rewarding. At least until I see results with the other fella.
Edit: I'm still unconvinced with the new guy. We don't run any sac outlets, so in general it's either just a really small attacker in comparison to the rest of our team, or it's a really mediocre chump blocker. If I were the opponent, I wouldn't bother using my removal spell on it either and use them on the Sowers and Herders instead.
An early creature that doesn't require any setup, draws a card when it dies with the chance of cheating something into play or ramping a land for you. Note that it's a may effect, so you can choose to draw a Strangler instead of putting it directly into play if it's revealed. If you reveal a relic, map, strangler, another copy of itself, or even a land, it comes into play.
This card seems absolutely phenomenal, easily earns a spot in the main board. Gives us something to play early, trades very favorably, can easily ramp us mana, or just gives us a card back.
I think it could be good for an aggro variant, but not worth the slot in a grindy variant like BW.
In a BWC deck, EE will not deal with Blood Moon unless you already have a basic Swamp and Plains. It would probably be a good idea to fetch those first if you're expecting Blood Moon. At least then you can still cast all your spells.
Except that your opponent has to kill/bounce it to get a random card. The card you exiled (of your choice) stays in exile until you process it. This seems absurdly good.
I think a sculler/Displacer package should help the Tron matchup slightly as well, since Karn is much easier to deal with if we already have a body or two down when he drops, since he'll want to -3 immediately. More hand disruption in general also help us make sure Karn never happens as well, plus it should help the combo matchups too. Displacer even survives Pyroclasm and can hold off Wurmcoil. What do you guys think of this as a (very) tentative BW list post OGW? I know it's a bit early since we don't have all the spoilers, but it can't hurt to brainstorm a little with what we have.
The Sculler/Strangler/Displacer ratio might be better as some combination of 4/3/2 or 3/3/2 (with either a 4th Sower or an Endbringer) but obviously that would require testing to determine. Vents might be better off as Isolated Chapels or just more Godless Shrines, but whatever. Side can probably be more or less ignored.
EDIT: Should probably have some number of Caves of Koilos in there, since they make all "3" of our colors.
Here's a list someone else posted in the other thread. Personally, I might go -1 Displacer, +1 Strangler.
C Kozilek C
GB Gitrog GB
G Titania G
WU Brago WU
GB MerenGB
Duel Commander Decks
UR Keranos UR
BRG Jund BRG
GR Tron GR GW Tron GW
C Eldrazi Tron (SB) C
BG Lantern Control BG
UW Control (SB) UW
I think you mean Drown in Sorrow
C Kozilek C
GB Gitrog GB
G Titania G
WU Brago WU
GB MerenGB
Duel Commander Decks
UR Keranos UR
BRG Jund BRG
GR Tron GR GW Tron GW
C Eldrazi Tron (SB) C
BG Lantern Control BG
UW Control (SB) UW
This is false. Colorless is not a color of mana. JaceTheMetaSculptor had it correct.
C Kozilek C
GB Gitrog GB
G Titania G
WU Brago WU
GB MerenGB
Duel Commander Decks
UR Keranos UR
BRG Jund BRG
GR Tron GR GW Tron GW
C Eldrazi Tron (SB) C
BG Lantern Control BG
UW Control (SB) UW
It happens to me as well, but even despite that I'll continue to run Strangler because when it does hit, it's really rewarding. At least until I see results with the other fella.
Edit: I'm still unconvinced with the new guy. We don't run any sac outlets, so in general it's either just a really small attacker in comparison to the rest of our team, or it's a really mediocre chump blocker. If I were the opponent, I wouldn't bother using my removal spell on it either and use them on the Sowers and Herders instead.
C Kozilek C
GB Gitrog GB
G Titania G
WU Brago WU
GB MerenGB
Duel Commander Decks
UR Keranos UR
BRG Jund BRG
GR Tron GR GW Tron GW
C Eldrazi Tron (SB) C
BG Lantern Control BG
UW Control (SB) UW
I think it could be good for an aggro variant, but not worth the slot in a grindy variant like BW.
C Kozilek C
GB Gitrog GB
G Titania G
WU Brago WU
GB MerenGB
Duel Commander Decks
UR Keranos UR
BRG Jund BRG
GR Tron GR GW Tron GW
C Eldrazi Tron (SB) C
BG Lantern Control BG
UW Control (SB) UW
C Kozilek C
GB Gitrog GB
G Titania G
WU Brago WU
GB MerenGB
Duel Commander Decks
UR Keranos UR
BRG Jund BRG
GR Tron GR GW Tron GW
C Eldrazi Tron (SB) C
BG Lantern Control BG
UW Control (SB) UW
C Kozilek C
GB Gitrog GB
G Titania G
WU Brago WU
GB MerenGB
Duel Commander Decks
UR Keranos UR
BRG Jund BRG
GR Tron GR GW Tron GW
C Eldrazi Tron (SB) C
BG Lantern Control BG
UW Control (SB) UW
C Kozilek C
GB Gitrog GB
G Titania G
WU Brago WU
GB MerenGB
Duel Commander Decks
UR Keranos UR
BRG Jund BRG
GR Tron GR GW Tron GW
C Eldrazi Tron (SB) C
BG Lantern Control BG
UW Control (SB) UW
My eyes are popping out of their sockets at how good that is.
C Kozilek C
GB Gitrog GB
G Titania G
WU Brago WU
GB MerenGB
Duel Commander Decks
UR Keranos UR
BRG Jund BRG
GR Tron GR GW Tron GW
C Eldrazi Tron (SB) C
BG Lantern Control BG
UW Control (SB) UW
Search the thread.
C Kozilek C
GB Gitrog GB
G Titania G
WU Brago WU
GB MerenGB
Duel Commander Decks
UR Keranos UR
BRG Jund BRG
GR Tron GR GW Tron GW
C Eldrazi Tron (SB) C
BG Lantern Control BG
UW Control (SB) UW
C Kozilek C
GB Gitrog GB
G Titania G
WU Brago WU
GB MerenGB
Duel Commander Decks
UR Keranos UR
BRG Jund BRG
GR Tron GR GW Tron GW
C Eldrazi Tron (SB) C
BG Lantern Control BG
UW Control (SB) UW
Here's a list someone else posted in the other thread. Personally, I might go -1 Displacer, +1 Strangler.
C Kozilek C
GB Gitrog GB
G Titania G
WU Brago WU
GB MerenGB
Duel Commander Decks
UR Keranos UR
BRG Jund BRG
GR Tron GR GW Tron GW
C Eldrazi Tron (SB) C
BG Lantern Control BG
UW Control (SB) UW