I like using Commune in some other decks I have on turn 2 to pull a Hooting Mandrills. Love me a 4/4 Trample on turn two if it works out right.
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Hey thanks he took first then. Just a matter of time before someone does the same for Modern.
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Knight Retreat in Legacy is being played right now on Twitch at the St.Louis SCG Open. 10-3 so far.
Its not Modern of course but looks to be played similarly. Check it out if you have a chance.
I wish we had access to green-sun's.
Comes into play tapped isn't great in the opener, and it isn't a card I want in my starting 7, but the fact it is easy to find is a big deal IMO and doesn't break up the combo. Not sure if it is worth it or not, but could be a great main deck solution to burn and aggressive decks. Again I think it adds to the decks toolbox, which is important.
Me too.
It Sapseep Forest could have a place in the SB in the proper meta that is for sure.
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I'm never big on comes into play tapped unless it gives you an overwhelming effect. Maybe I'm being short-sighted on it.
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Knight Retreat in Legacy is being played right now on Twitch at the St.Louis SCG Open. 10-3 so far.
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Thanks for sharing. Interesting match for sure. I was so wanting you to hit the combo that first time out. Just a FYI though, Arid Mesa is pronounced MAY-SA not MEE-SA. Mesa is Spanish for table. Sorry my OCD took over. Please share if you go at it with the deck again.
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Maybe you can help me come up with a list of artifacts that could fit the bill. So far the only cards id say should definitly go in are: KotR, Retreat, Arcbound, Steel Overseer and Hangarback.
Not quite sure what you are looking for exactly, but would you want artifacts/creatures that trigger landfall or bring lands into play? Expedition Map or Walking Atlas???
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and didn't think to try Bant charm (which I am not sure is good enough)
I don't think it is either. Seems a little slow and clunky. I'd really want to be playing Knight or Retreat with those 3 mana. I am enjoying all the information in this thread.
What would you all suggest to replace Goyf in a more budget minded deck? Thanks.
While we can't discuss budget options in here, a lot of discussion has gone on over whether Voice or Goyf is best in the 2-drop slot, but two other solid two-drops worth considering imho - Thalia and Anafenza. Fenza puts some serious constraints on the manabase, but she's super, super good with Glen Elendra and Kitchen Finks, if you choose to go the value route.
I've been experimenting with a version that runs a lot of 2-drops (Skite, anafenza, thalia, voice) and Ojutai's Command as a value engine, and it's pretty neat if not anywhere near primetime:
Thanks. I think I'd rather go with Anafenza given those choices. I will keep searching as well.
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and didn't think to try Bant charm (which I am not sure is good enough)
I don't think it is either. Seems a little slow and clunky. I'd really want to be playing Knight or Retreat with those 3 mana. I am enjoying all the information in this thread.
What would you all suggest to replace Goyf in a more budget minded deck? Thanks.
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I'll say it again, if you want the deck to be consistent the card you want isnt Chord of Calling or collected company. You want Commune with the Gods. The card is legit, especially in a bant midrange shell that can combo out.
I get Commune with the Gods. It works well in a GW Toughness matters Enchantment deck I've brewed up. I also like the fact that if it would catch KotR then whatever lands get put in the graveyard from CwtG buff him up. I will keep it in mind especially if I go towards the combo side over the Bant shell side.
Great ideas being thrown around. Keep them coming all.
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Cool ideas so far. A lot to think about. Lots of brewing to do as well. Took a chance and picked up 20 copies on pre-order as well at a quarter apiece. What the heck. I've blown way more than 5 bucks on much less frivolous things. Would love to see/hear more ideas from others.
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Very interesting ideas so far. Good to hear them all. It does seem putting this combo into an existing or modified-existing shell may be the way to go. I was brainstorming up an all in combo deck and it does seem to be fragile in nature. If I have some time later I will try to post it up. I'd love to see someone post up an existing deck with this combo worked in. The lure of the Landfall mechanic keeps me wanting to go all in combo with some synergies from cards with Landfall. Seems such a shame to have a land drop engine and not use it to its fullest extent with Landfall or anything else that synergies with cards being dumped into the graveyard.
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I guess that is what I'm thinking about right now. Run the combo in an existing shell or go all in combo or nothing.
If I were to go all in combo, there is another side-theme with Landfall that could be interesting.
Copies of Hedron Crab could be milling away with every land drop on the combo in case opponent has removal for KotR. Steppe Lynx could become a giant beater alongside KotR as well. Lotus Cobra could load up the mana for a big finisher spell as well. Also loading up the graveyard sets up for Delve mechanic cards nicely. Just some thoughts for a combo deck.
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If Retreat to Coralhelm is a part of the win-con engine. Wouldn't we want to be able to retrieve that integral part of the engine using say an Idyllic Tutor? If its about going "infinite" as quickly as possible, we would need to go find/fetch the pieces as quickly as possible and not wait around for top-decking them right?
I would think Collected Company would need to be a must have 3 or 4 in the main deck as well.
Wouldn't we need to protect the fragile nature of removal of our 1 key piece from things like Surgical Extraction in our sideboard as well?
Are there any W U or G spells out there that offer protection to enchantments OR let us tutor them out of our library?
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Me too.
It Sapseep Forest could have a place in the SB in the proper meta that is for sure.
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Its not Modern of course but looks to be played similarly. Check it out if you have a chance.
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Thanks for sharing. Interesting match for sure. I was so wanting you to hit the combo that first time out. Just a FYI though, Arid Mesa is pronounced MAY-SA not MEE-SA. Mesa is Spanish for table. Sorry my OCD took over. Please share if you go at it with the deck again.
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Not quite sure what you are looking for exactly, but would you want artifacts/creatures that trigger landfall or bring lands into play? Expedition Map or Walking Atlas???
Explorer's Scope???
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Thanks. I think I'd rather go with Anafenza given those choices. I will keep searching as well.
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I don't think it is either. Seems a little slow and clunky. I'd really want to be playing Knight or Retreat with those 3 mana. I am enjoying all the information in this thread.
What would you all suggest to replace Goyf in a more budget minded deck? Thanks.
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http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/top-decks/bringing-modern-light-2015-09-25
Can't say I'm really attracted to either version they posted up in the article. Fuel for thought I guess.
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I get Commune with the Gods. It works well in a GW Toughness matters Enchantment deck I've brewed up. I also like the fact that if it would catch KotR then whatever lands get put in the graveyard from CwtG buff him up. I will keep it in mind especially if I go towards the combo side over the Bant shell side.
Great ideas being thrown around. Keep them coming all.
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If I were to go all in combo, there is another side-theme with Landfall that could be interesting.
Copies of Hedron Crab could be milling away with every land drop on the combo in case opponent has removal for KotR. Steppe Lynx could become a giant beater alongside KotR as well. Lotus Cobra could load up the mana for a big finisher spell as well. Also loading up the graveyard sets up for Delve mechanic cards nicely. Just some thoughts for a combo deck.
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I would think Collected Company would need to be a must have 3 or 4 in the main deck as well.
Wouldn't we need to protect the fragile nature of removal of our 1 key piece from things like Surgical Extraction in our sideboard as well?
Are there any W U or G spells out there that offer protection to enchantments OR let us tutor them out of our library?
So many questions.
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