I havent put it together online yet to really test it, but I have to imagine you are taking a bit more shock damage, as I dont really want a Basic Mountain in the list, but if you did go BBE, I think you would limit Blue to a lot less than I have in my current list.
Feels pretty good, but I would probably drop 2 Jace, 2 Vapor Snag, 3 Queller, and 2 Selfless Spirit, and go +4 BBE +4 Bolt + 1 Tracker. Sideboard would get messed around too, removing the Blue interaction for White hate, and some Helix's. Or something.
Mana base, I would likely drop a Forest and a Plains, and then add 1 Stomping Ground, and 1 Sacred Foundry.
Fetches would drop 2 Flooded, for 2 Arid Mesa? Yeah something like that. :]
I think there will be a difference between 4C Naya with Retreat and Aggro decks. My guess is that the BBE versions realy resilliant is. But this claim is without any testing. I find it hard to lock on to one of the lists and go jam them on MTGO tho
Since I've been getting hyped on the new possibilities of this deck I also drew up a BBE version to build. I haven't tested this one yet, but might play it instead of my Jace version at a modern event this week. This is what I was thinking for a BBE build. Trimming Quellers since they are not a good hit on a BBE. I think this deck could really push the beatdown/tempo plan well. Realistically, this might just be better off as a non Retreat deck that is fully Naya, but still this looks pretty fun.
I'm relatively new to the deck, hope you don't mind me asking for advice (or tell me and I'll delete this post!).
The meta that I play in have an overwhelming degree of interactive decks with a stint of aggro and combo.
Something to the effect of
50% Jund / UWx control
20% Lantern (2-3 players)
30% Aggro / Combo (Affinity, burn and storm)
What creature selection would you make with this kind of meta? I'm thinking Reflector Mage does little here, whereas cards like Spell Queller and Selfless Spirit are more valuable? Utility creatures I'm considering are 2nd Qasali Pridemage and more Ewits for recursion.
I think the basic creatures you see in most lists are going to be correct here. 2 Pridemage, 2 GoST has been serving me pretty good, and I have 2 Selfless Spirits right now as well.
As to the MTGO list, I think BBE is going to prove to be a better value engine, if not going for Combo, it seems in my testing against it (I havent tried it) to just bury people.
In what list would you play the BBE version?
The list above lacks GoST and Quellers.
2 JTMS in the maindeck, with 0 Retreat, plus 1 JTMS in the sideboard. The list is very cool. Also have 4 Collected Company maindeck, but in this article he was in the 4 JTMS and 0 Company build. Maybe company still good!
I dislike the effect of 0 retreats.
You see his list is focust on fast three drops or a t3 Jace. Protected by voices and co.
I want to test if BBE is better as Coco in the meta. The list above is realy good.
Probably my favorite thing about this configuration is I've been able to consistently win through the combo by quite a larger margin than with CoCo or Jace being the curve topper. I've probably had more turn three or four wins the last couple days than I've had the previous month--Dork into Knight into BBE cascading into Retreat is very much real. It's faster, more proactive, and more consistent with the combo which I feel is a better place to be in the meta. Knightfall is a deck that likes to fight on the ground and have high-value cards, BBE is imo a better enabler. Also, Lightning Bolt is a good card.
I like this a lot.
Looks realy good! I was trying to play Jace but I can't get a decend build. Nondeless I would like to see some Geists in this list.
I think the board needs some work. I dislike Choke, Linvala and Sigarda.
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I think it is wrong to play Queller without company in the deck.
This deck went 5-0 wint Naya Company
2 Courser of Kruphix
1 Domri Rade
1 Dromoka's Command
3 Forest
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Horizon Canopy
4 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Lightning Helix
1 Mountain
4 Noble Hierarch
2 Plains
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Sacred Foundry
2 Scavenging Ooze
2 Stomping Ground
1 Tectonic Edge
2 Temple Garden
3 Tireless Tracker
1 Treetop Village
4 Voice of Resurgence
4 Wild Nacatl
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Ghost Quarter
2 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
3 Grim Lavamancer
1 Lightning Helix
2 Path to Exile
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
I think there will be a difference between 4C Naya with Retreat and Aggro decks. My guess is that the BBE versions realy resilliant is. But this claim is without any testing. I find it hard to lock on to one of the lists and go jam them on MTGO tho
Spicy finkses. I think we need at least the 7 mana dorks to support the GR and WU BBE and GoST spells.
Manabase seems fine tho.
I think the Retreat stays. The possibility of t3 out of the blue is great. And it wins you some random matches tho.
In what list would you play the BBE version?
The list above lacks GoST and Quellers.
I dislike the effect of 0 retreats.
You see his list is focust on fast three drops or a t3 Jace. Protected by voices and co.
I want to test if BBE is better as Coco in the meta. The list above is realy good.
Looks realy good! I was trying to play Jace but I can't get a decend build. Nondeless I would like to see some Geists in this list.
I think the board needs some work. I dislike Choke, Linvala and Sigarda.