I'm still preferring the Vizier version, myself. Shalai adds another layer of protection, as well as another Win-Con for the Vizier combo, and I don't worry about Sphere out of the Board due to winning before my opponent's mana/combo becomes an issue a large portion of the time.
Have a list? I've been tweaking and toying with just the GW Version lately with Vizier/Druid + Knight/Tracker. Haven't gotten a chance to dive into Bant yet with Shalai.
Anyone know list Kelvin Chew is playing these days?
This is what he sent me after GP Sydney where his personal record was 6-1-1 but I believe his team failed to Day 2. He'd also mentioned he'd gone 6-2 in Kyoto prior but not sure if this is the exact same list.
Any of you guys also play value town? I go back and forth between these decks and it feels tough to know which to go with. I understand value town is a looking to grind and draw the game out, and knightfall is more of a tempo deck in some ways but they play mostly along the same axis. Anybody have any insight as to whats better in the meta these days? (I've been playing a lot more legacy lately...Maverick is super fun)
I've had both in the rotation lately. As you stated, GW VT has a far more impressive late game and if I had to choose a deck to combat a more midrange dominated meta it would likely be my first choice in terms of Company decks. Bant, especially with the Retreat combo is far better suited vs. decks not looking to interact with the exception of Tron (Bant has still been pretty decent for me vs. Tron). If I had to choose one knowing I'd be playing a 50/50 field of both interactive control/midrange and non-interactive combo (Storm, Vizier Company, KCI, Etc..) I'd likely side with Bant featuring Retreat.
You'd still be at 25 Company hits post board. I've had success bringing in Eidolon of Rhetoric on the play as well, between Snaps and the deck being densely packed with cantrips it can seriously slow them down.
Every deck nowadays is running 4 bolt effects mainboard. Valakut decks, Affinity (Galv blast), RB Hollow One, Burn, Ponza, GR Eldrazi etc. It makes the devoted Druid combo plan hard to pull off (in my experience on mtgo over the past two days).
It's still sort of all-in on the infinite mana combo plan, but you can recharge pretty easily with Trackers, as well as have large Knights. I would look at add an eternal witness or two in there though. Maybe +2 Eternal Witness +1 Duskwatch, -1 Vizier -2 Courser.
I like the way it is set up, although that manabase looks rough. kessig Wolf run and a stomping ground should be in there as a combo piece.
This list is really similar if not identical to the list that won Hareruya's last God of Modern event (300+ people).
To be honest, I just wanted to play with Nimble Obstructionist for fun but uncounterable Stifle cycle turned out to be pretty sweet. Having more plays at instant speed and more threats in the air was great as well. Haven't gotten to Stifle Ulamog, Karn, Ugin or Storm yet but maybe one day I'll live the dream. Don't run out and buy Obstructionists.. But if you wanna have some fun and get some people, have at it.
I posted my deck to another bant thread and was suggested to ask help here. I very much enjoy the midrange-style, and have settled to traverse version of knightfall. The list is by no means ready or smooth but the general idea is there. I'm still considering renegade rallier to replace ojutai's command as value two-for-one. Rallier c'd also get back GQ's and tormod's crypts in game one. (Cryptic is a no go with my manabase and is not a good fit here.) Some choises came from the fact that my local fnm is riddled with burn and tron.
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I put a fair amount of time and testing into something similar prior to Opt becoming Modern legal. I was never able to get it to function smoothly, it was too weak to GY hate and just typically felt a turn slower than I'd generally want to be in Modern. Here's the MD 60 I'd last saved:
It seems like a weird mix of an all-in devoted druid deck that just runs some synergy / midrange cards for value. Finks, but no viscera seer. Jace, because you're in blue anyway? Can't help but think Selfless Spirit would work better if you're trying to combo off.
He'd noted that Meddling Mage was specifically to interact more with non-interactive combo G1, and he'd removed Pridemage as he's not afraid of Ensnaring Bridge now that he's playing Jace.
I'm usually not too impressed with non-Retreat lists (too many linear decks that I have to go under at my LGS), but the point about Mage is well taken. The fact that you drop Kessig and the R mana also means the mana base is less warped, which makes Clique and Jace look more appealing.
Might have to give this variant a shot.
That's almost identical to what I was playing when I was trying out Jace in Bant Company, never thought about having Meddling Mage be a mb card. I just realized how insane it'd be to Company into Meddling Mage and V-Clique.
You have to name a card with Mage before Clique gets to see their hand.
Sweet list, but it looks dead in the water against Affinity with 0 Kataki 0 Stony... No ways to remove Artifacts or enchantments also can't be right, even with a way to play around Bridge. Then again, Kelvin may be just making a conscious choice to improve some matchups at the expense of others.
I agree, some copies of Stony/Kataki would likely find their way into my board when I get to trying this list out. It's worth noting that Affinity should take a substantial hit with BBE Jund and Grixis/UWx rising in popularity.
Sorry, as I unfortunately did not get to attend this event, I was unable to ask or speak to him about his deck, and therefore cant comment on his list. If I get the chance to go to his shop, I will ask him about his input and share his insights here.
Thanks! I'll probably just shoot him a message on FB. Looked pretty close to the list he'd 5-0'd with with the inclusion of MD Meddling Mage.