MTG Salvation

Okay I didn't consider Gripping your own Vapors but only using it for the split second. That's still janky af but it works.

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Lethal Vapors + Teferi's Protection + krosan grip = infinite disappear and wait for your opponents to deck themselves from drawing for turn, krosan grip to destroy while you hold priority so your opponents don't one for one you on the missing turns

How does this work, exactly?

You activate Lethal Vapors many, many times, then respond to those activations with Krosan Grip so that your opponents can't activate it and also skip turns. Then Teferi's Protection to be untouchable during those turns. It's like putting yourself in suspended animation to outlive your opponents.

I saw it in an Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim deck inspired by the BLAME! manga that did a lot of search-opponent-library-exile to make sure opponents were stripped of ways to recycle their libraries to 'survive' those many turns. The thread has since been deleted, though.

Edit: Also, it used stuff like Grand Abolisher instead of Krosan Grip.

Your opponents can wait for Krogan Grip to resolve before activating it to the same value that you did, and if they all do that then the game goes back to normal.

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GWU
Drogskol Reaver + Horizon Chimera = draw your entire deck

You would die to the last draw trigger unless you had LabMan or some sort of Stifle effect.

There's a difference between cards like Second Wind and Dragon Mantle. One clearly says "enchanted creature has" and the other doesn't. I'm guessing that's where the confusion was, but it's a very silly thing to miss.

Would you care to elaborate then? Because here's how it currently works.

-King Macar has 'Inspired (when it becomes uptapped) - Exile target creature. If you do, create a gold token.'

-Second Wind has 'Enchant creature. T: Tap enchanted creature. T: Untap enchanted creature.'
>In case there's confusion at this point, from gatherer: These abilities are abilities of the Aura, not abilities granted to the creature. Only the Aura’s controller can activate them.

So you get King Macar tapped somehow, maybe by attacking, but the point is he's tapped. You activate the second ability of Second Wind and put 'Untap King Macar on the stack.' The ability resolves. Inspired asks you to pick a target, which you do. Exile + Gold trigger on the stack. The ability resolves.

Now here is the current board state:
>There is one fewer creature on the battlefield
>You have one more Gold token
>King Macar is untapped
>Second Wind is tapped.

So congrats, you've successfully used a single ability of an aura and gotten use out of King Macar now instead of during your upkeep. What more is there to know?

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Exile all creature you want on battlefield.
King Macar, the Gold-Cursed + Second Wind

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Uhm, no. Those abilities are the aura's abilities, not the creatures.

You untap King Macar, the Gold-Cursed enchanted which trigger his ability

Plus you don't "exile all creatures you want" either. It's entries like this that make me want to rework the database as a whole because of the definitions of synergy and combo.
-While listed in the synergy section, Nath of the Gilt-Leaf + Sadistic Hypnotist is a combo because they are cards that go well together as you can make everyone hellbent on your turn, thereby making a strong synergy.
-Kiki + Zealous Conscripts is an infinite combo because you get any number of Zealous Conscripts you would like.
-Things like King Macar, the Gold-Cursed + Second Wind is a synergy because you are making an effect that's greater than the sum of its parts because you're not just untapping a creature with the aura since you're getting a benefit out of the interaction outside of it just becoming untapped. To me, this kind of thing is on the same level as in the 'WHEN POSTING SUGGESTIONS' section of the OP; 'Omniscience + spells' or 'Borgyborgyborgy + lands' aren't combos either because you're just playing cards together. There's no 'greater sum' created.

The point is, things can probably be reclassified like 'infinite combo' and 'combo' because of this reason. I'd almost consider 'Edric + creatures with evasion (flying, unblockable, etc.)' more of a combo because you are heavily exploiting his ability and not just hoping you connect. havocentral (I'm unsure how to tag a user) mentioned something like this back in February. I may do something like it, but it would take time.

I'm close to finishing updating the OP with suggestions since the beginning of the year so I'll update this as well. Thanks for pointing it out!

Uhm, no. Those abilities are the aura's abilities, not the creatures.

I'm waiting for work to give me a hot minute to breath, for people to format their posts in a way that makes my part easier, and for people to stop spelling 'synergy' incorrectly.

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it is probably way to late to do this now. But for infinite combos we could classify them as Class S(super) Class A and class B.

Class B can only be done at sorcery speed because it requires recasting or reequiping or something else givinf a timing restriction.

Class A can be done at instant speed. So you can respond to someone else winning or something like that.

Class S can be done at instant speed and cant be interrupted, or if an opponent does something in response, you can in response start the combo all over again.

I would consider implementing something like that only if people would format their suggestions properly first (mana symbols in proper order with all card previews working properly and overall formatted the standardized way).

If I'm right, a Fork'd Seasons Past can't pick itself because spells resolve on the stack. By the time Fork would be back in your hand Seasons Past will be resolving and therefore you can't copy it with the Fork you just dug up.

I'm going to be updating it today. People, for the most part, aren't following the formatting like I asked so I've been reluctant to go through and fix everything unless I do it all at once.

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Mizzix is capable of infinite combo several ways with enough experience counters, though.

Youre right. He seems very broken for this reason. A list of more common ones would be a good idea.

Someone needs to condense all of the suggested combos on this thread to the main post as well.

I would add new things in a heartbeat, but I've asked the community nicely at least twice now to format their posts properly because it saves me a ton of work when I do a mass update and still only a few people have done it.

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Mana Web + Storm Cauldron

Feel all of the hate and salt flow around you.

That doesn't work how you think it does. It taps the land; it doesn't tap them for mana.

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So my girlfriend has a new favorite deck, Aurelia. She had all the swords and the basic boros staples in there. Any good synergies or conbos to suggest? Also made her a grand arbetor deck, any help with combos on him would be appreciated

My suggestion is look through the first few posts, or Google decks built around them.

I've updated the original posts with all non-redundant posts. Please be sure you are formatting your submissions properly. It is incredibly time-consuming to correct every mistake, whether it's spelling or formatting. If you are unsure of how I would like your post formatted, check the 'format' spoiler in the first post. Thank you.