I don't have Urborg / Cabal Coffers and Gaea's Cradle yet and with the banning of Prophet of Kruphix. I don't think I'll be able to use Empty the Pits to it's full potential.
Doubling Season , Akroma's Memorial and Coat of Arms are on my priority list right now. What do you think? I like animate dead and dance of the dead because it can reanimate a creature from an opponent's graveyard. We have a Sharuum player. Stealing either Sharuum or Phyrexian Metamorph from his graveyard slows his deck quite a bit.
Since I have Life from the Loam already. Should I let go of Grisly Salvage / Mulch already?
I decided to run the Narcomoeba + Mortuary + Altar of dementia even with the tribal. I got Mortuary and Altar of dementia on the field. Even without Narcomoeba on the field. (it will eventually come in) I can get so many zombie/mill/etb triggers with the help of noxious ghoul , diregraf etc. It wins the game on it's own. Since I don't have shocklands yet. I got Chromatic lantern to balance everything out.. 2 of the decks in my LGS runs mass land destruction. I will prioritize life from the loam as the next card to get. Also using Body Double. It's like a reanimation spell built in the creature.
You actually removed Narcomortuary of Dementia engine for the zombie tribal. So I can still shoe it in? what would be replaced on your list if that happens xD?
Thanks. I'll start collecting the pieces right away.
I'm only missing these cards for now. I guess I'm almost good to go xD? Also, Is the Deathtouch on Death Baron really relevant? or can I substitute it with something like Cemetery Reaper ? or would it be too different?
I also acquired Cavern of Souls. It's played but it's still good for the price I got it with xD.
You've really put some effort in the deck is such a short amount of time! How has the consistency been with all the basic lands and ways to ramp? Everything else is there and pretty solid so I'm wondering how it's been working out for you.
Nim Deathmantle could be very much abused here. I don't see a lot of creatures that do something upon entering the battlefield but being able to abuse cards like Burnished Hart could warrant its inclusion. But, apart from just protecting a dying creature I don't really see it being that abused in the deck to warrant its inclusion. However, if it tickles your fancy, give it a try. As for including Mazirek (glad you found interest in my deck for him, by the way), do you have enough sacrifice outlets to really get the mileage out of it?
I guess my suggestions would be to see how, when piloting the deck, there's a theme that you like when playing it. Do you like the reanimator route? Sidisi's good for that. What about sac and stax? Sidisi could probably be good for that also. I like the idea you mentioned about abusing sacrifices. It'd be pretty cool to see what you come up with that.
It's been consistent on ramping up that's for sure. The problem I have with the past games. I have only a few wincons at the moment. There was a time when I had like 12 lands and no threat on the field.
I'm also eyeing Kederekt Leviathan to support my enchantment based reanimation. Planning to add Necromancy as well.
Will act as a board reset if I'm losing on board state. or save me from a wrath
I'll be getting a 6$ akroma's memorial some time this week too (it's cheap here in my country because no one seems to play it xD)
I think I'll be able to test this out next week or so once I find the pieces.
Update this is my current list so far. I updated the list with the cards that will be coming in next week. What do you think? Commander's sphere to be Replaced with Chromatic Lantern, Gonna get Life from the loam when I find one.
With the amount of mana I usually have, I believe Nim deathmantle deserves a spot.
Also
What do you think? my next upgrades should be?
And the amount of sacrifice outlets I have. I can see Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest will get along well with the horde.
Will add more Sacrifice shenanigans like Fleshbag Marauder
I'm trying to stay away from combo to not be unfun. For now. Horde Beatdown is the way to go.
I'll try to embrace the Sacrifice/Reanimator/Exploit theme. I'll show you my final list once it's finished.
Since I don't have Cabal Coffers yet, I'll be optimizing the list to what will suit me for now.
With the amount of ETB I have. I'm really considering Deadeye Navigator also for an added Protection
Also what planeswalker should I get first if I have a budget for one.
I'm facing Golgari Elves and Teysa Spirits on my playgroup. Both are built casually with some staples here and there. we're slowly upgrading are decks. That's why I'm trying to stay away from unfun stuff.
Any suggestions on what to change and what to add would really be appreciated.
Thank you for consistently looking to improve your deck. I highly appreciate your efforts in improving Sidisi while still retaining the fun factor in playing the deck. I was a bit busy the past weeks. I'll try to post my current decklist later today.
I'm still lacking some pieces from the Budget version and have some from the Competitive version.
Still, All I can say is this deck is tons of fun to play. and to play against.
I traded my brago edh deck pieces to Sidisi pieces. It's all worth it xD.
btw TS, Thanks for the reviews on the C15
I'm currently 80% complete with the budget version. I have included Mesmeric Orb , Solemn Simulacrum and Konda's Banner . I scavenged them from my old decks
Was supposed to sell Konda's Banner but decided to keep it. It's sweet when I can attache it to Grimgrin or any other legendary zombies.
I already started building the budget version. I have a mesmeric orb already , btw what is the use of Trading Post?
Some cards are a bit hard to find especially the old cards like gempalm polluter.
Also I have a Courser of Kruphix. Would it help if I wedge it in xD?
This build can definitely work without Gaea's Cradle because you can still abuse Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth + Cabal Coffers. Depending on your pod and/or LGS, you could use a gold-bordered Gaea's Cradle. However, even those which aren't legal to play in any sanctioned tournaments are at about $30 a piece...
Btw Kirby.
If I start with the Budget version.
can you give me a list of Upgrades by Priority and what to cut for it.?
Also if you can give budget alternatives like Parallel Lives to Doubling Season
Thank you so much. I plan to start constructing this deck on the next pay day
2 Aphetto Alchemist
2 Seeker of Skybreak
2 Voyaging Satyr
2 Sakura-Tribe Elder
2 Satyr Wayfinder
2 Riftsweeper
2 Kiora's Follower
2 Narcomoeba
3 Diregraf Captain
3 Farhaven Elf
3 Krosan Restorer
3 Eternal Witness
4 Vengeful Dead
4 Falkenrath Noble
4 Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
4 Filth
4 Undead Alchemist
4 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
4 Gurmag Drowner
4 Wonder
4 Hell's Caretaker
4 Clever Impersonator
4 Undead Warchief
5 Sidisi, Undead Vizier
5 Havengul Lich
5 Noxious Ghoul
5 Vengeful Pharaoh
5 Body Double
5 Prophet of Kruphix
5 Grimgrin, Corpse-Born
6 Gempalm Polluter
6 Champion of Stray Souls
7 Butcher of Malakir
7 Sheoldred, Whispering One
2 Life from the loam]
2 Grisly Salvage
2 Gaea's Blessing
2 Mulch
3 Victimize
3 Buried Alive
4 Dread Return
4 Jarad's Orders
Instant
2 Cyclonic Rift
4 Sudden Reclamation
4 Fact or Fiction
4 Empty the Pits
Enchantment
1 Phyrexian Reclamation
2 Animate Dead
2 Dance of the Dead
4 Opposition
4 Mortuary
4 Parallel Lives
4 Endless Ranks of the Dead
5 Conspiracy
6 Deadbridge Chant
Planeswalker
4 Kiora, Master of the Depths
5 Tezzeret the Seeker
Artifact
1 Sol Ring
1 Expedition Map
2 Altar of Dementia
2 Mesmeric Orb
3 Chromatic Lantern
8 Forest
4 Island
6 Swamp
1 Opulent Palace
1 Seat of the Synod
1 Tree of Tales
1 Vault of Whispers
1 Golgari Rotfarm
1 Golgari Guildgate
1 Dimir Aqueduct
1 Dimir Guildgate
1 Tainted Wood
1 Simic Guildgate
1 Simic Growth Chamber
1 Command Tower
1 Teramorphic Expanse
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Yavimaya Coast
1 Underground River
1 Nephalia Drownyard
1 Cavern of Souls
Deadbridge Chant , Empty the Pits, Falkenrath Noble and wonder will probably be replaced by cemetery reaper , lord of the undead , Death Baron and Lich Lord of Unx or Corpse Harvester.
Do you think I have too much Enchantment?
I don't have Urborg / Cabal Coffers and Gaea's Cradle yet and with the banning of Prophet of Kruphix. I don't think I'll be able to use Empty the Pits to it's full potential.
Doubling Season , Akroma's Memorial and Coat of Arms are on my priority list right now. What do you think? I like animate dead and dance of the dead because it can reanimate a creature from an opponent's graveyard. We have a Sharuum player. Stealing either Sharuum or Phyrexian Metamorph from his graveyard slows his deck quite a bit.
Since I have Life from the Loam already. Should I let go of Grisly Salvage / Mulch already?
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Prophet of Kruphix is now banned.
What do we change it into :<?
I'll post my updated decklist later.
I decided to run the Narcomoeba + Mortuary + Altar of dementia even with the tribal. I got Mortuary and Altar of dementia on the field. Even without Narcomoeba on the field. (it will eventually come in) I can get so many zombie/mill/etb triggers with the help of noxious ghoul , diregraf etc. It wins the game on it's own. Since I don't have shocklands yet. I got Chromatic lantern to balance everything out.. 2 of the decks in my LGS runs mass land destruction. I will prioritize life from the loam as the next card to get. Also using Body Double. It's like a reanimation spell built in the creature.
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Thanks. I'll start collecting the pieces right away.
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3 Death Baron
4 Risen Executioner
5 Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest
7 Akroma's Memorial
4 Vengeful Dead
8 Craterhoof Behemoth
Zombie Makers:
4 Empty the Pits
4 Endless Ranks of the Dead
4 Parallel Lives
5 Doubling Season
5 Ghoulcaller Gisa
5 Primal Vigor
I'm only missing these cards for now. I guess I'm almost good to go xD? Also, Is the Deathtouch on Death Baron really relevant? or can I substitute it with something like Cemetery Reaper ? or would it be too different?
I also acquired Cavern of Souls. It's played but it's still good for the price I got it with xD.
And welcome back
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I was wondering what cards to add to my deck if I decided to move towards the Zombie Tribal?
I mean can you give me a list of priority upgrades :)? from my current list
1 Tideshaper Mystic
1 Reef Shaman
2 Aphetto Alchemist
2 Dreamscape Artist
2 Seeker of Skybreak
2 Voyaging Satyr
2 Sakura-Tribe Elder
2 Satyr Wayfinder
2 Riftsweeper
2 Kiora's Follower
2 narcomoeba
3 Nyx Weaver
3 Yavimaya Elder
3 Diregraf Captain
3 Farhaven Elf
3 Burnished Hart
3 Krosan Restorer
3 Eternal Witness
3 Splinterfright
4 Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
4 Filth
4 Undead Alchemist
4 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
4 Gurmag Drowner
4 Wonder
4 Hell's Caretaker
4 Clever Impersonator
4 Undead Warchief
4 Meren of Clan Nel Toth
5 Sidisi, Undead Vizier
5 Havengul Lich
5 Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest
5 Vengeful Pharaoh
5 Corpse Connoisseur
5 Body Double
5 Prophet of Kruphix
5 Grimgrin, Corpse-Born
6 Gempalm Polluter
6 Champion of Stray Souls
7 Butcher of Malakir
7 Sheoldred, Whispering One
2 Grisly Salvage
2 Gaea's Blessing
2 Mulch
3 Victimize
3 Buried Alive
4 Dread Return
4 Jarad's Orders
Instant
2 Cyclonic Rift
4 Sudden Reclamation
4 Fact or Fiction
Enchantment
1 Phyrexian Reclamation
2 Animate Dead
2 Dance of the Dead
4 Opposition
4 Mortuary
6 Deadbridge Chant
Planeswalker
5 Tezzeret the Seeker
Artifact
1 Elixir of Immortality
2 Altar of Dementia
3 Commander's Sphere
2 Mesmeric Orb
Land
10 Forest
4 Island
6 Swamp
1 Opulent Palace
1 Seat of the Synod
1 Tree of Tales
1 Vault of Whispers
1 Golgari Rotfarm
1 Golgari Guildgate
1 Dimir Aqueduct
1 Dimir Guildgate
1 Tainted Wood
1 Simic Guildgate
1 Simic Growth Chamber
1 Command Tower
1 Teramorphic Expanse
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Yavimaya Coast
1 Underground River
1 Nephalia Drownyard
Congrats on the Primer status as well
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It's been consistent on ramping up that's for sure. The problem I have with the past games. I have only a few wincons at the moment. There was a time when I had like 12 lands and no threat on the field.
With my meta of consisting of orzhov and golgari. I can cut Reef shaman and tideshaper mystic for now I can put in cards like Dawntreader Elk or even Embodiment of Spring to support a more sacrifice theme. Survival of the fittest will also get a spot once I get the budget. Adding sacrifice lands should also help a bit for Mazirek,Ghost Quarter , Tectonic Edge , Myriad Landscape, Strip Mine etc
I'm also eyeing Kederekt Leviathan to support my enchantment based reanimation. Planning to add Necromancy as well.
Will act as a board reset if I'm losing on board state. or save me from a wrath
I'll be getting a 6$ akroma's memorial some time this week too
I think I'll be able to test this out next week or so once I find the pieces.
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1 Tideshaper Mystic
1 Reef Shaman
2 Aphetto Alchemist
2 Dreamscape Artist
2 Seeker of Skybreak
2 Voyaging Satyr
2 Sakura-Tribe Elder
2 Satyr Wayfinder
2 Riftsweeper
2 Kiora's Follower
2 narcomoeba
3 Nyx Weaver
3 Yavimaya Elder
3 Diregraf Captain
3 Farhaven Elf
3 Burnished Hart
3 Krosan Restorer
3 Eternal Witness
3 Splinterfright
4 Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
4 Filth
4 Undead Alchemist
4 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
4 Gurmag Drowner
4 Wonder
4 Hell's Caretaker
4 Clever Impersonator
4 Undead Warchief
4 Meren of Clan Nel Toth
5 Sidisi, Undead Vizier
5 Havengul Lich
5 Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest
5 Vengeful Pharaoh
5 Corpse Connoisseur
5 Body Double
5 Prophet of Kruphix
5 Grimgrin, Corpse-Born
6 Gempalm Polluter
6 Champion of Stray Souls
7 Butcher of Malakir
7 Sheoldred, Whispering One
2 Grisly Salvage
2 Gaea's Blessing
2 Mulch
3 Victimize
3 Buried Alive
4 Dread Return
4 Jarad's Orders
Instant
2 Cyclonic Rift
4 Sudden Reclamation
4 Fact or Fiction
Enchantment
1 Phyrexian Reclamation
2 Animate Dead
2 Dance of the Dead
4 Opposition
4 Mortuary
6 Deadbridge Chant
Planeswalker
5 Tezzeret the Seeker
Artifact
1 Elixir of Immortality
2 Altar of Dementia
3 Commander's Sphere
2 Mesmeric Orb
Land
10 Forest
4 Island
6 Swamp
1 Opulent Palace
1 Seat of the Synod
1 Tree of Tales
1 Vault of Whispers
1 Golgari Rotfarm
1 Golgari Guildgate
1 Dimir Aqueduct
1 Dimir Guildgate
1 Tainted Wood
1 Simic Guildgate
1 Simic Growth Chamber
1 Command Tower
1 Teramorphic Expanse
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Yavimaya Coast
1 Underground River
1 Nephalia Drownyard
Update this is my current list so far. I updated the list with the cards that will be coming in next week. What do you think?
Commander's sphere to be Replaced with Chromatic Lantern, Gonna get Life from the loam when I find one.
With the amount of mana I usually have, I believe Nim deathmantle deserves a spot.
Also
What do you think? my next upgrades should be?
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On the other hand. I saw you built a Mazirek Deck.
I might try to mix it up. Seeing my ramp is usually sacrificed creatures. Yavimaya Elder , Sakura-tribe Elder , Dreamscape Artist , Burnished Hart etc.
And the amount of sacrifice outlets I have. I can see Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest will get along well with the horde.
Will add more Sacrifice shenanigans like Fleshbag Marauder
I'm trying to stay away from combo to not be unfun. For now. Horde Beatdown is the way to go.
I'll try to embrace the Sacrifice/Reanimator/Exploit theme. I'll show you my final list once it's finished.
Since I don't have Cabal Coffers yet, I'll be optimizing the list to what will suit me for now.
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1 Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
1 Nyx Weaver
1 Champion of Stray Souls
1 Cadaver Imp
1 Grave Scrabbler
1 Krosan Tusker
1 Filth
1 Corpse Connoisseur
1 Undead Alchemist
1 Voyaging Satyr
1 Butcher of Malakir
1 Gempalm Polluter
1 Gurmag Drowner
1 Wonder
1 Grimgrin, Corpse-Born
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
1 Falkenrath Noble
1 Diregraf Captain
1 Burnished Hart
1 Soul of Innistrad
1 Prophet of Kruphix
1 Krosan Restorer
1 Undead Warchief
1 Pharika's Mender
1 Possessed Skaab
1 Farhaven Elf
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Satyr Wayfinder
1 Riftsweeper
1 Kiora's Follower
1 Tideshaper Mystic
1 Reef Shaman
1 Splinterfright
1 Dreamscape Artist
1 Commune with the Gods
1 Victimize
1 Buried Alive
1 Endless Obedience
1 Mulch
1 Grisly Salvage
1 Dread Return
1 Gaea's Blessing
1 Jarad's Orders
Instant
1 Sudden Reclamation
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Cyclonic Rift
1 Sultai Charm
Enchantment
1 Propaganda
1 Palace Siege
1 Deadbridge Chant
1 Opposition
1 Tortured Existence
Artifact
1 Elixir of Immortality
1 Mesmeric Orb
1 Phyrexian Reclamation
1 Bow of Nylea
Land
12 Forest
4 Island
8 Swamp
1 Opulent Palace
1 Seat of Synod
1 Golgari Rotfarm
1 Golgari Guildgate
1 Dimir Aqueduct
1 Dimir Guildgate
1 Simic Guildgate
1 Tainted Wood
1 Command Tower
1 Teramorphic Expanse
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Dakmor Salvage
Total count 94
Will be getting Eternal Witness , Meren of Clan Nel Toth , Pathbreaker Ibex and Dread Summons later. Will get Life from the Loam and Altar of Dementia as soon as I see them anywhere.
I fell in love with the reanimator theme.
Soul of Innistrad is my mana sink when Prophet of Kruphix hits the floor.
I'm also using Endless Obedience as Budget Reanimate
The convoke is pretty nice
What do you think about Scourge of Nel Toth , Corpse Augur , Skullwinder ,Rise from the Grave , Animate Dead ,Stitch Together , Avatar of Woe and Phyrexian Delver?
With the amount of ETB I have. I'm really considering Deadeye Navigator also for an added Protection
Also what planeswalker should I get first if I have a budget for one.
I'm facing Golgari Elves and Teysa Spirits on my playgroup. Both are built casually with some staples here and there. we're slowly upgrading are decks. That's why I'm trying to stay away from unfun stuff.
Any suggestions on what to change and what to add would really be appreciated.
EDIT:
Ordered the ff from Abugames.
Hell's Caretaker
Nullmage Sheperd
Aphetto Alchemist
Seeker of Skybreak
Sidisi, Undead Vizier
Havengul Lich
Vengeful Pharaoh
Nephalia Drownyard
Underground River
Mortuary
Yavimaya Coast
Tezzeret the Seeker
Sheoldred, Whispering One
They will probably arrive next week.
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I'm still lacking some pieces from the Budget version and have some from the Competitive version.
Still, All I can say is this deck is tons of fun to play. and to play against.
I traded my brago edh deck pieces to Sidisi pieces. It's all worth it xD.
btw TS, Thanks for the reviews on the C15
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I'm currently 80% complete with the budget version. I have included Mesmeric Orb , Solemn Simulacrum and Konda's Banner . I scavenged them from my old decks
Was supposed to sell Konda's Banner but decided to keep it. It's sweet when I can attache it to Grimgrin or any other legendary zombies.
Still having trouble finding a Mortuary though :/
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Some cards are a bit hard to find especially the old cards like gempalm polluter.
Also I have a Courser of Kruphix. Would it help if I wedge it in xD?
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Btw Kirby.
If I start with the Budget version.
can you give me a list of Upgrades by Priority and what to cut for it.?
Also if you can give budget alternatives like Parallel Lives to Doubling Season
Thank you so much. I plan to start constructing this deck on the next pay day
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I'll try to build the first deck without the expensive cards. Like Cradle.
it might take sometime but I'll eventually finish it
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