@Tev: Not sure what you mean by this. I mean, plenty of cards can exile themselves, they just can't typically do it infinitely with no other cards. Aetherling, Brago, King Eternal, and Norin the Wary are a few examples.
I think what he means by this (though he can correct me if I'm wrong (as always)) is that, this card has one change above the ones that you listed. The ones that you listed only trigger once a turn due to when they reenter the battlefield or when they can trigger the exile effect. Hostage Taker on the other hand, due to the wording on it, can be used (when triggers being stacked correctly) to bounce itself however many times you want in one step, thus abusing any ETB/LTB effects that are there. It's that one thing that makes it broken as *****balls (as written). It's "fair" to have cards that bounce themselves once a turn by themselves. When it gets broken is when a card can bounce itself over and over whenever it wants, however many times it wants. In someways, this card is more broken then DEN. DEN and (insert usual combo piece) means GG with a third card to abuse it. This card triggers any ETB/LTB effect by itself for usually less mana then DEN. Things like this is why Marath got a pre-release errata because it could spawn a 0/0 token...
Vindictive Lich is good and I definitely recommend cutting Treasure Keeper if your lists feel that this new card is better.
Also, I have some questions on a card that some of you may run. That card is Chasm Skulker.
How good is it in your lists? I'm thinking of trying out a very similar card in Hangarback Walker but with a few key differences. The reason I was thinking about it is because Genesis Chamber is actually quite strong in the affinity build.
A) You don't get a "free" add-on +1/+1 counter in your draw steps to go with the counter from dethrone. You also don't get counters for drawing cards
B) However, the tokens are flying thopter artifacts and you do get modular synergy. It also on average costs 1cmc less.
C) Unlike Chasm Skulker, when this thing dies it doesn't come back.
It is very likely that I'm cutting one of my six drops for this card if it is worthy of inclusion.
I think you answered your own question about Chasm Skulker.. Namely with the easier and cheaper +1/+1 counters and that you can recur it. Though, someone else can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this.
So if you have a +1/+1 counter on a creature with embalm and it goes to the graveyard then you trigger embalm when the creature hit the graveyard do you get past the exile with marchesa or does triggering embalm take priority on the stack?
Just wondering is it possible to get past the embalm rules with Marchesa.
Thoughts? Very very high on the curve, but does damm near everything we want. Tutoring all day long. Taking us off the throne. Sac outlet. And brings the beef.
Though, might only find it's way into a budget/ casual build...
I think what he means by this (though he can correct me if I'm wrong (as always)) is that, this card has one change above the ones that you listed. The ones that you listed only trigger once a turn due to when they reenter the battlefield or when they can trigger the exile effect. Hostage Taker on the other hand, due to the wording on it, can be used (when triggers being stacked correctly) to bounce itself however many times you want in one step, thus abusing any ETB/LTB effects that are there. It's that one thing that makes it broken as *****balls (as written). It's "fair" to have cards that bounce themselves once a turn by themselves. When it gets broken is when a card can bounce itself over and over whenever it wants, however many times it wants. In someways, this card is more broken then DEN. DEN and (insert usual combo piece) means GG with a third card to abuse it. This card triggers any ETB/LTB effect by itself for usually less mana then DEN. Things like this is why Marath got a pre-release errata because it could spawn a 0/0 token...
Goblin Green Acres
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Nope... Doesn't work. sorry
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Thoughts? Very very high on the curve, but does damm near everything we want. Tutoring all day long. Taking us off the throne. Sac outlet. And brings the beef.
Though, might only find it's way into a budget/ casual build...
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