Thanks for all the advice and opinions guys. I think I'll find a spot for it back in the cube.
As far as reading you my friends resume, IDK, not realy that big a deal IMHO. I wasn't saying his opinion should be gospel, but I wanted to make it clear not only that I respected his opinion, but also why.
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I had Black Vise in the intial incarnation of my cube. It was a seminal aggro card back in the day, often doing 7-12 damage on its own for 1mana, especially if drawn turn 1.
It was drafted and maindecked in each draft for my first 4, and it sucked. It dealt a total of less than 10 damage in all 4 drafts, combined, and was usually a completely dead card.
One of my drafters, arguably the best player in our group, with a 1900 rating on MTGO and who usually wins 3 or 4 of the 4 prerelease events at his LGS per prerelease weekend, noted that The Rack in its place would have dealt quite a bit more damage, and would have dealt damage every single time it was drawn, except in the control matchup.
My argument for Vice is thatit a card you want for control.
I've noticed a wide variety of opinions about this card, from 360 staple to very cuttable. I've never seen The Rack played at all in cube, but I observed that even our Rampish and controllish decks tended to spend quite a few turns at 3 or fewer cards rather than 5+.
Thoughts?
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As far as reading you my friends resume, IDK, not realy that big a deal IMHO. I wasn't saying his opinion should be gospel, but I wanted to make it clear not only that I respected his opinion, but also why.
- Willy Wonka
The Quote function doesn't work for me on this forum. Sorry for any confusion created.
It was drafted and maindecked in each draft for my first 4, and it sucked. It dealt a total of less than 10 damage in all 4 drafts, combined, and was usually a completely dead card.
One of my drafters, arguably the best player in our group, with a 1900 rating on MTGO and who usually wins 3 or 4 of the 4 prerelease events at his LGS per prerelease weekend, noted that The Rack in its place would have dealt quite a bit more damage, and would have dealt damage every single time it was drawn, except in the control matchup.
My argument for Vice is thatit a card you want for control.
I've noticed a wide variety of opinions about this card, from 360 staple to very cuttable. I've never seen The Rack played at all in cube, but I observed that even our Rampish and controllish decks tended to spend quite a few turns at 3 or fewer cards rather than 5+.
Thoughts?
- Willy Wonka
The Quote function doesn't work for me on this forum. Sorry for any confusion created.