I agree with Meg as well. If it is a concern then a completed games sub forum is best. If it is not a concern then how we do things now is fine. I personally wouldn't mind seeing a completed games sub forum to clean up the clutter, but it's more of a want than a need I think.
To continue with the PPP thing again. Unless there are plans to really fix the mobile experience I am of the [slightly biased] opinion* that the forum should not consider mobile users when deciding the PPP, because as of right now there seems to be only be a limited number of people that can even use this site on mobile. Having a mobile PPP amount won't help the mobile users since the mobile experience is already bad because of a lot of other things most of which seem like they won't be helped/fixed with a real low PPP.
*Pure desktop user. But did confirm today that the site is basically unusable on my phone.
Oh God! The math that would be involved! People who do post number recaps instead of quotes would become even more annoying. I am having an anxiety attack already...
Serious question: Would it be possible to have a mobile version of the site with a lower PPP while this version would have a higher PPP? (Hell I would consider making a mobile site in general considering it seems like well over 50% of the complaints I am seeing is how bad the new site is on mobile)
Anything below 40 PPP is just too hard to browse on a desktop as their is too much page flipping which can make it hard when doing reviews. I really enjoyed 60 PPP from before, but I am willing to compromise at 40 PPP.
I think some of the 15 and 20 PPP suggestions, while they are best for mobile, are just unreasonable for desktop use.
Quick question. Why are the mafia awards with the rest of the forum awards? In years past we had a seperate thread on the thread on the forum to discuss and nominate for the awards which I much preferred rather than having a thread for each category lost in a sea of threads.
Also a lot of categories are also missing like Worst Town, Best False Claim, etc.
Well since my name was brought up as the one with the feedback, so here is what I posted:
Reposting the feedback I gave in the last feedback thread that is still relevant:
Signing In/Getting the Right Account:
1. This Curse sign-in thing needs something done about it as it is causing my computer at work fits trying to sign-in. I know it's not firefox since it worked fine at home, so it could possibly be because I am on a cloud or something, but half the time I signed in, it didn't sign me in and instead just redirected me to a log-in screen, telling me to log in or join. I am not sure what is causing it as it seems random, but it's annoying. Also in that same vein I seem to be randomly logged off after a while. This is the only site it happens on, so I feel it probably is specific to the site/log-in stuff.
2. When I sign-in to the Beta and it goes through it seems to sign me in for every Curse site. This is annoying because everytime I want to check the red tracker on ReignofGaming it prompts me to choose a nickname and won't let me in to the site. Signing into one site shouldn't sign you in to other sites.
3. I still have the problem where when I sign in I am being signed-in to the wrong account due to two accounts having the same email address. As it is I am currently unable to access my Guardman account on the Beta. I am auto signed in on Chrome Browser, but on every other browser it signs me in two a different account.
1. All of the corners are rounded, not allowing for 100x100 true square avatars.
2. The avatars seem to be raised or have some sort of shading/beveling around it which is very annoying especially when looking at certain avatars (see The Warden's avatar for example).
3. The little green dot in the corner of avatars when you are online is also annoying. Especially if a person has text at the bottom of an avatar.
4. I don't like having a blank picture for people without avatars. It would be nice if it just showed nothing like the current site does.
Basically make it so that the avatars are 100% like people uploaded it as and don't try to mess around or put stuff over.
Post Per Page:
Also I seem to be unable to change the number of posts per page (I don't see an option to change it), which is extremely annoying for something like Mafia which prefers my current of 60 ppp.
Site still needs a dark skin for people like me who find that the current skin hurts their eyes.
Is there a place to have preset fonts and colors. Right now I don't even see a place to change the font in the post box.
Also why is there no post page? It seems like I can only quick reply right now. I miss having an entire page dedicated for post writing and not having it clogged with other posts. Also there are a lot of post functionality missing such as the preset smiles that you can easily get to (or most of the smiles for that matter).
The quick reply box is really, really wide. While I like having posts be widescreened, writing posts in the quick reply box on wide is actually really annoying and a little hard to follow as not everything is in my field of vision.
Can the quick reply/reply area use a different font than courier new. In fact it would be nice if could be set to use use the font you use to post.
Need a dropdown menu for fonts and colors.
Also we are missing things like locations, join date, blog posts, and the flag under the avatar.
It is sort of hard to tell who is a mod and such. It took me a while to see the five color next to a name. It would be nice if staff still had different name colors or formatting or something so it is easier to tell.
The dropdown multiquote is awkward at best, and makes multiquoting awkward especially since the post box appears below the first quote you quote. Really need the multiquote system like the current forum has as it's a lot easier to use then this.
Also really need a post page that you can go to with all your quotes like the current forum has.
Speaking of annoying the most annoying thing is the avatars next to names of who posted on a thread. They are too small to tell what they are or who they are, but so colorful that they are distracting. Either get rid of them or at the very least give an option to turn them off.
Also why does this site need a Terms of Service above the post box. It's been bothering me since I noticed. MTGSalvation isn't supposed to be a corporate website. It's supposed to be a forum. It just feels wrong. It's one thing to have a corporate owner and another thing to really feel like the site is being engulfed in the corporateness.
I haven't got around to checking to see if any of these things are fixed due to the signing in of the site being a pain in the ass for me to use. The entire sign-in system is probably the single biggest thing that will make me quit if I do because it is just plain annoying and takes over my system and signs me into every curse site, never signs me in rights, randomly signs me out at work, etc. But talking to them I get the feeling there is not much they can do to help me unless they completely change the sign-in system.
I guess that is the big thing with me, the problem isn't so much the change, but how it is being changed. The biggest problems with the new system such as being a curse website/log-in system are something that has to be lived with and can't be changed, which neuters a lot of whatever positive was supposed to come from this. It's like your current car is being held together with duck tape so you get a mini cooper instead of the mini van you need.
It's sort of funny that this discussion has sparked up when it did as I've been debating whether or not I want to give hosting another go. My last two games really drained me mentally (part of the problem was they were running concurrently for a bit) and I tend to make games that are a little more involved in keeping track then most... which is part of the reason I've been holding off on hosting. Plus I really don't have the time at my job now for anything so involved in modding. But at the same time I am out of benadryl.
Bah... I hate you all for having this discussion.
Alright angry old man rant over (though I am pretty sure I am not an old man).
I don't have the time to mod the game I was working on. But maybe I should make an easier to mod game, which will be a mini out of my love for minis... and maybe I should do that GHS Mafia followup I always wanted to do using what I learned from GHS mafia to fix it (plus to exercise some MH and Cyan demons that still haunt me).
Gah... I am still ranting aren't I?
As for what to do to change this queue problem, I actually encourage the working on queue in addition to the done queue. It will at least let us know what's in the pipeline and if we have a true problem or it only looks like a problem.
I disagree, Guardman. I've found most commonly that most reviewers won't go out of their way to contact you if you request it in the hosting thread.
To each there own then. I know for Chime Mafia I was rejected by four or five people before I finally posted in the hosting thread and got nearly instantaneous results.
In fact the only game of mine that I didn't have to scrap and dig for a reviewer after several rejections was my basic and Eeveelution (which was sort of special as only iLord was really qualified to review it).