This is major cheating on your part. I sure hope this wasn't in a real tournament. You should've been DQed.
Either you missed the [/sarcasm] tag in his post, or I missed it in yours.
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She's a two-faced ****rag ***** bucket with NO grasp on reality or objectivity let alone sincerity or humanity!!! She FEEDS on drama, all day every day, like a ****ing prostitute feeds on STDs--- in much the same way, mind you...
1: Have some combination of a Warden/Auriok Champion and Saffi in play and or the graveyard.
2: Play Crypt Champion without red, returning either Saffi or the Warden/AChampion, whichever is in the graveyard.
3: Sacrifice Saffi, targeting Crypt Champion.
4: Repeat steps 2-3 ad nauseum.
5: ??????
6: Profit!!!!!!
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She's a two-faced ****rag ***** bucket with NO grasp on reality or objectivity let alone sincerity or humanity!!! She FEEDS on drama, all day every day, like a ****ing prostitute feeds on STDs--- in much the same way, mind you...
0:04:07 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Island from Hand
0:04:09 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Swamp
0:04:09 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Plains
0:04:09 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Island
0:04:10 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Esper Charm from Hand (targeting his Luminarch Ascension with 3 counters on it)
0:04:17 [mEtHoD] mEtHoD taps Mountain
0:04:18 [mEtHoD] mEtHoD taps Island
0:04:19 [mEtHoD] mEtHoD plays Swerve from Hand
0:04:30 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> no other legal target...
0:04:35 [mEtHoD] <mEtHoD> nope
0:04:44 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> so you can't swerve it
0:04:48 [mEtHoD] <mEtHoD> yah
0:04:49 [mEtHoD] <mEtHoD> i draw 2
0:04:56 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> you can't change the mode
0:05:00 [mEtHoD] <mEtHoD> damn u noob
0:05:01 [mEtHoD] <mEtHoD> cya
0:05:02 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
I'm PopePaul. The board was his Ascension, My Jace and Ajani, and a bunch of lands. I knew Swerve was good, but I didn't think it was that good!
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She's a two-faced ****rag ***** bucket with NO grasp on reality or objectivity let alone sincerity or humanity!!! She FEEDS on drama, all day every day, like a ****ing prostitute feeds on STDs--- in much the same way, mind you...
I would've sworn that was something you could do. I don't know where I got the idea, but I was. My bad.
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She's a two-faced ****rag ***** bucket with NO grasp on reality or objectivity let alone sincerity or humanity!!! She FEEDS on drama, all day every day, like a ****ing prostitute feeds on STDs--- in much the same way, mind you...
Maybe you can help me out. Where, in the rule book, does it deal with damage being redirected to Planeswalkers? This is like the 88 billionth guy I've played on MWS who doesn't understand I can do this:
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0:05:19 [Rbto_0] It is now turn 22 (Rbto_0)
0:05:19 [Rbto_0] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:05:21 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 untaps his/her permanents
0:05:21 [Rbto_0] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:05:21 [Rbto_0] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:05:21 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 draws a card
0:05:21 [Rbto_0] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:05:22 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 plays Swamp from Hand
0:05:26 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Crumbling Necropolis
0:05:26 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Jwar Isle Refuge
0:05:26 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Jwar Isle Refuge
0:05:26 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Crypt of Agadeem
0:05:26 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Crumbling Necropolis
0:05:27 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Crypt of Agadeem
0:05:31 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Swamp
0:05:31 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Swamp
0:05:32 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Swamp
0:05:32 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Swamp
0:05:40 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 plays Consume Spirit from Hand
0:05:44 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0's life total is now 16 (+10)
0:05:45 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0's life total is now 18 (+2)
0:05:46 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 puts Consume Spirit to Graveyard from Play
0:05:48 [PopePaul] PopePaul's life total is now 3 (-10)
0:05:50 [PopePaul] PopePaul's life total is now 1 (-2)
0:05:51 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> End my turn
0:05:53 [PopePaul] It is now turn 23 (PopePaul)
0:05:53 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:05:54 [PopePaul] PopePaul untaps his/her permanents
0:05:54 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:05:56 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:05:56 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws a card
0:05:56 [PopePaul] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:06:06 [PopePaul] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:06:07 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Angel
0:06:07 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Angel
0:06:08 [Rbto_0] PopePaul taps Angel
0:06:09 [Rbto_0] PopePaul taps Angel
0:06:10 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0's life total is now 10 (-8)
0:06:15 [PopePaul] It is now the Postcombat Main Phase
0:06:19 [PopePaul] Ajani Vengeant now has 5 (+1) counters.
0:06:28 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> End my turn
0:06:29 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Ok
0:06:30 [Rbto_0] It is now turn 24 (Rbto_0)
0:06:30 [Rbto_0] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:06:31 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 untaps his/her permanents
0:06:31 [Rbto_0] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:06:31 [Rbto_0] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:06:32 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 draws a card
0:06:32 [Rbto_0] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:06:35 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Crumbling Necropolis
0:06:35 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Jwar Isle Refuge
0:06:36 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Swamp
0:06:36 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 plays Blightning from Hand
0:06:50 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> redirect the damage to Ajani
0:06:54 [PopePaul] Ajani Vengeant now has 2 (-3) counters.
0:06:55 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> nop
0:06:59 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> yes
0:07:01 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> 3 to you
0:07:06 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> why does no one know you can do this
0:07:21 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> i dealt 3 dam to you
0:07:23 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> I can choose to have any noncombat damage dealt to me, be dealt to my planeswalker
0:07:25 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> i win
0:07:30 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> nop
0:07:32 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> that my choise man
0:07:33 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> yes
0:07:36 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> please know magic rules
0:07:40 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> I do know
0:07:43 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> you should
0:07:49 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> i choise win the game
0:07:50 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> ok
0:07:56 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> worst player ever
0:08:02 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> quit play magic stuped noby
0:08:03 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
Am I wrong? I thought you could use your Planeswalkers like that...
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I didn't know whether the Goyf was already damaged or not. The information didn't really lead me anywhere, so I assumed that the guy who had the Goyf had a reason for it. Anyways, so you were right. In my defense, it was 3 in the morning when I posted it.
It's cool. I didn't take any offense or anything.
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She's a two-faced ****rag ***** bucket with NO grasp on reality or objectivity let alone sincerity or humanity!!! She FEEDS on drama, all day every day, like a ****ing prostitute feeds on STDs--- in much the same way, mind you...
Looks like PopePaul let his Tarmagoyf die, then realized it didn't work that way.
Sorry, I was PopePaul. And that's what happened. It was his Main Phase, he PtE'd my Finks, then responded by Helixing my Goyf. I put it in the yard, and then realized it didn't work that way.
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Proph was right anyways.
Ummm, no. He was wrong. Unless they changed the way the spells are cast/resolve, Helix goes to the graveyard, Goyf becomes a 3/4 with 3 damage on it, and the game continues.
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She's a two-faced ****rag ***** bucket with NO grasp on reality or objectivity let alone sincerity or humanity!!! She FEEDS on drama, all day every day, like a ****ing prostitute feeds on STDs--- in much the same way, mind you...
So I'm playing LoamGiftsRock, and he's playing Domain. Game one went pretty well, and Game 2 was shaping up to be fine, until this...
There was land and creatures in the graveyards, and both of us had a Goyf.
0:04:01 [Proph] Proph plays Path to Exile from Hand
0:04:07 [PopePaul] PopePaul puts Kitchen Finks to RFG from Play
0:04:11 [Proph] <Proph> res
0:04:12 [Proph] Proph taps Sacred Foundry
0:04:13 [Proph] Proph taps Hallowed Fountain
0:04:14 [Proph] Proph plays Lightning Helix from Hand
0:04:20 [PopePaul] PopePaul puts Tarmogoyf to Graveyard from Play
0:04:21 [Proph] Proph's life total is now 14 (+3)
0:04:22 [Proph] Proph puts Lightning Helix to Graveyard from Play
0:04:23 [Proph] Proph puts Path to Exile to Graveyard from Play
0:04:26 [Proph] Tarmogoyf is now 3/4
0:04:27 [Proph] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:04:28 [PopePaul] Proph taps Wild Nacatl
0:04:28 [Proph] Proph taps Wild Nacatl
0:04:29 [PopePaul] Proph taps Qasali Pridemage
0:04:29 [Proph] Proph taps Qasali Pridemage
0:04:29 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Wait!
0:04:29 [PopePaul] Proph taps Tarmogoyf
0:04:30 [Proph] Proph taps Tarmogoyf
0:04:30 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Wait!
0:04:36 [Proph] <Proph> k
0:04:53 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> unfortunately, lol, you can't kill Goyf with an instant like that...
0:05:09 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Helix goes to GY, then SBEs are checked...and Goyf is a 3/4
0:05:13 [Proph] <Proph> i said res...res = response
0:05:19 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> doesn't matter
0:05:22 [Proph] <Proph> no damage is resolved
0:05:29 [Proph] <Proph> then the card hits the graveyard
0:05:38 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> as part of the resolution of a spell, it's put into the graveyard
0:05:50 [Proph] <Proph> no damage is resolved
0:05:56 [Proph] <Proph> then card goes to yard
0:06:00 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> then State-Based Effects are checked
0:06:05 [Proph] <Proph> right
0:06:09 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Goyf is a 3/4 with 3 damage on it.
0:06:11 [Proph] <Proph> so damage...then check
0:06:20 [Proph] <Proph> damage = death
0:06:23 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> no
0:06:31 [Proph] <Proph> lol yes
0:06:41 [Proph] <Proph> i deal lethal damage
0:06:42 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> State-Based Effects see a 3/4 with 3 damage and don't care
0:06:51 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> I can get the relevant rules if you like
0:06:55 [Proph] <Proph> for sure man
0:07:11 [Proph] <Proph> cause i have been playing with goyf for over a year
0:07:28 [Proph] <Proph> and never had a judge rule that lethal damage does not kill a creature
0:07:32 [Proph] <Proph> lol
0:07:50 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> People have known about this interaction with Goyf for years
0:07:59 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> If a judge told you differently, he told you wrong
0:08:25 [Proph] <Proph> damage is dealt...then the card goes to yard...has always been that way
0:08:42 [Proph] <Proph> card does not go to yard and then resolve damage
0:08:53 [Proph] <Proph> sorry man if you got wrong info too
0:09:37 [Proph] <Proph> are you going to search for a land?
0:10:24 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
Didn't these issues get known by all and wide like 2 years ago?
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Nothing defines humans better than their willingness to do irrational things in the pursuit of phenomenally unlikely payoffs.
This is the principle behind lotteries, dating, and religion
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She's a two-faced ****rag ***** bucket with NO grasp on reality or objectivity let alone sincerity or humanity!!! She FEEDS on drama, all day every day, like a ****ing prostitute feeds on STDs--- in much the same way, mind you...
Thanks! Now I just have to get accustomed to the sounds it makes...
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She's a two-faced ****rag ***** bucket with NO grasp on reality or objectivity let alone sincerity or humanity!!! She FEEDS on drama, all day every day, like a ****ing prostitute feeds on STDs--- in much the same way, mind you...
How do you get that green background and stuff in MWS? Mine's just the blue unless I change it manually; is that all you do?
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She's a two-faced ****rag ***** bucket with NO grasp on reality or objectivity let alone sincerity or humanity!!! She FEEDS on drama, all day every day, like a ****ing prostitute feeds on STDs--- in much the same way, mind you...
Of course, if they're more worried about Archive Trap, then they can just not search for PtE...
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Got two that just happened right in a row...sad,really...
<-------- New Game Started -------->
[FR] Grom's Security Code: C7C037F3 [Type 2]
PopePaul's Security Code: FB27D7CF [Type 2]
It is now turn 1 ([FR] Grom)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
<PopePaul> Hey
<[FR] Grom> Hello
[FR] Grom rolled a 20, using a 20 sided die
[FR] Grom shuffles library
PopePaul rolled a 3, using a 20 sided die
PopePaul shuffles library
[FR] Grom shuffles library
PopePaul shuffles library
[FR] Grom shuffles library
PopePaul shuffles library
<[FR] Grom> pl
PopePaul shuffles library
PopePaul draws 7 cards
[FR] Grom shuffles library
[FR] Grom shuffles library
[FR] Grom shuffles library
[FR] Grom draws 7 cards
<PopePaul> I'll keep
<[FR] Grom> kp
[FR] Grom plays Plains from Hand
[FR] Grom taps Plains
[FR] Grom plays Figure of Destiny from Hand
It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
<[FR] Grom> End my turn
It is now turn 2 (PopePaul)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
PopePaul draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
PopePaul plays Arcane Sanctum from Hand
<PopePaul> End my turn
<System> Player Lost
PopePaul vs Joel [3/2/2009 1:25:33 PM]
0:00:00 [PopePaul] <New Game: waiting for opponent>
0:00:00 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:00 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Yatta!
0:00:00 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws 0 cards
0:00:00 [Joel] Joel shuffles library
0:00:00 [Joel] <Joel> Bring it.
0:00:00 [Joel] Joel draws 0 cards
0:00:00 [Joel] <-------- New Game Started -------->
0:00:00 [Joel] Joel's Security Code: 1AA6AD94 [???]
0:00:00 [Joel] PopePaul's Security Code: FB27D7CF [Type 2]
0:00:00 [Joel] It is now turn 1 (Joel)
0:00:00 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:00 [Joel] <Joel> hi
0:00:01 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Hey
0:00:01 [Joel] Joel shuffles library
0:00:02 [Joel] Joel shuffles library
0:00:02 [PopePaul] PopePaul rolled a 14, using a 20 sided die
0:00:03 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:04 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:05 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:06 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:06 [Joel] Joel rolled a 3, using a 20 sided die
0:00:07 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:08 [PopePaul] It is now turn 2 (PopePaul)
0:00:08 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:09 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> I'll Play
0:00:10 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:11 [Joel] Joel draws 7 cards
0:00:11 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws 7 cards
0:00:12 [Joel] <Joel> kp
0:00:17 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> I'll keep
0:00:20 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Arcane Sanctum from Hand
0:00:21 [Joel] <Joel> ok
0:00:21 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> End my turn
0:00:27 [Joel] It is now turn 3 (Joel)
0:00:27 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:28 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:00:28 [Joel] Joel draws a card
0:00:28 [Joel] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:00:35 [Joel] Joel plays Savage Lands from Hand
0:00:37 [Joel] <Joel> End my turn
0:00:39 [PopePaul] It is now turn 4 (PopePaul)
0:00:39 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:40 [PopePaul] PopePaul untaps his/her permanents
0:00:40 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:00:41 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:00:41 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws a card
0:00:41 [PopePaul] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:00:44 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Arcane Sanctum from Hand
0:00:46 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> End my turn
0:00:53 [Joel] It is now turn 5 (Joel)
0:00:53 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:54 [Joel] Joel untaps his/her permanents
0:00:54 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:00:55 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:00:56 [Joel] Joel draws a card
0:00:56 [Joel] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:00:58 [Joel] Joel plays Treetop Village from Hand
0:01:03 [Joel] <Joel> End my turn
0:01:04 [PopePaul] It is now turn 6 (PopePaul)
0:01:04 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:01:05 [PopePaul] PopePaul untaps his/her permanents
0:01:05 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:01:07 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:01:07 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws a card
0:01:07 [PopePaul] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:01:14 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Fetid Heath from Hand
0:01:15 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Arcane Sanctum
0:01:15 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Arcane Sanctum
0:01:15 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Fetid Heath
0:01:17 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Stillmoon Cavalier from Hand
0:01:19 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> End my turn
0:01:25 [Joel] It is now turn 7 (Joel)
0:01:25 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:01:26 [Joel] Joel untaps his/her permanents
0:01:26 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:01:27 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:01:27 [Joel] Joel draws a card
0:01:27 [Joel] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:01:28 [Joel] Joel plays Swamp from Hand
0:01:35 [Joel] Joel taps Savage Lands
0:01:36 [Joel] Joel taps Swamp
0:01:38 [Joel] Treetop Village is now Creature Land
0:01:38 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 0/0
0:01:38 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 1/1
0:01:38 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 2/2
0:01:39 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 3/3
0:01:40 [Joel] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:01:41 [PopePaul] Joel taps Treetop Village
0:01:41 [Joel] Joel taps Treetop Village
0:01:42 [PopePaul] PopePaul's life total is now 17 (-3)
0:01:48 [Joel] <Joel> End my turn
0:01:49 [PopePaul] It is now turn 8 (PopePaul)
0:01:49 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:01:50 [PopePaul] PopePaul untaps his/her permanents
0:01:50 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:01:52 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:01:52 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws a card
0:01:52 [PopePaul] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:01:56 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 2/2
0:01:56 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 1/1
0:01:57 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 0/0
0:01:57 [Joel] Treetop Village is now Land
0:02:06 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Reflecting Pool from Hand
0:02:09 [PopePaul] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:02:10 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Stillmoon Cavalier
0:02:12 [Joel] PopePaul taps Stillmoon Cavalier
0:02:14 [Joel] Joel's life total is now 18 (-2)
0:02:16 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> End my turn
0:02:20 [Joel] It is now turn 9 (Joel)
0:02:20 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:02:21 [Joel] Joel untaps his/her permanents
0:02:21 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:02:21 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:02:22 [Joel] Joel draws a card
0:02:22 [Joel] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:02:25 [Joel] Joel taps Savage Lands
0:02:26 [Joel] Joel taps Treetop Village
0:02:27 [Joel] Joel plays Fertile Ground from Hand
0:02:28 [Joel] Fertile Ground is enchanting Swamp now
0:02:32 [Joel] <Joel> End my turn
0:02:39 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Reflecting Pool
0:02:39 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Arcane Sanctum
0:02:40 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Arcane Sanctum
0:02:42 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Esper Charm from Hand
0:02:48 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws 2 cards
0:02:52 [PopePaul] PopePaul puts Esper Charm to Graveyard from Play
0:02:53 [PopePaul] It is now turn 10 (PopePaul)
0:02:53 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:02:54 [PopePaul] PopePaul untaps his/her permanents
0:02:54 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:02:56 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:02:56 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws a card
0:02:56 [PopePaul] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:03:01 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Sunken Ruins from Hand
0:03:04 [PopePaul] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:03:04 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Stillmoon Cavalier
0:03:08 [Joel] PopePaul taps Stillmoon Cavalier
0:03:14 [Joel] Joel's life total is now 16 (-2)
0:03:15 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> End my turn
0:03:31 [Joel] It is now turn 11 (Joel)
0:03:31 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:03:32 [Joel] Joel untaps his/her permanents
0:03:33 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:03:33 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:03:33 [Joel] Joel draws a card
0:03:33 [Joel] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:03:35 [Joel] Joel plays Mountain from Hand
0:03:41 [Joel] Joel taps Savage Lands
0:03:41 [Joel] Joel taps Treetop Village
0:03:41 [Joel] Joel taps Swamp
0:03:41 [Joel] Joel taps Fertile Ground
0:03:41 [Joel] Joel taps Mountain
0:03:43 [Joel] Joel plays Primal Command from Hand (pointing at my Arcane sanctum)
0:03:50 [Joel] <Joel> and search
0:03:53 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Cryptic Command from Hand
0:03:54 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Arcane Sanctum
0:03:55 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Fetid Heath
0:03:56 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Reflecting Pool
0:03:56 [Joel] Joel is looking its Library...
0:03:56 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Sunken Ruins
0:04:03 [Joel] Joel puts Cloudthresher into play from Library
0:04:05 [Joel] Joel shuffles library
0:04:05 [Joel] Joel stops looking its Library...
0:04:10 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
Nothing defines humans better than their willingness to do irrational things in the pursuit of phenomenally unlikely payoffs.
This is the principle behind lotteries, dating, and religion
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She's a two-faced ****rag ***** bucket with NO grasp on reality or objectivity let alone sincerity or humanity!!! She FEEDS on drama, all day every day, like a ****ing prostitute feeds on STDs--- in much the same way, mind you...
I'm playing a homebrew R/u/b/w Elemental Warriors deck, he's playing GW snow control, I guess.
It starts out okay, until here:
0:11:05 [PopeZBT] PopeZBT plays Nova Chaser from Hand
0:11:10 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> targetting?
0:11:16 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> doesn't target
0:11:35 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> You have to champion a specified elemental....
0:11:50 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> I don't have to choose until the champion trigger resolves.
0:12:06 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> u sure?
0:12:09 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> Positive.
0:12:11 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> k
0:12:21 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> does it resolve?
0:12:24 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> sure
I'm thinking "Okay, that's a pretty standard new player mistake, whatever." It helped that he didn't fight me over it.
Then this happened:
0:17:23 [El Ravager] El Ravager puts Garruk Wildspeaker to Graveyard from Play
0:17:26 [El Ravager] dude is now 6/6
0:17:30 [El Ravager] Knight of Meadowgrain is now 5/5
0:17:34 [El Ravager] dude is now 5/5
0:17:35 [El Ravager] It is now the Combat Phase, Beginning Of Combat Step
0:17:37 [El Ravager] El Ravager taps Knight of Meadowgrain
0:17:37 [El Ravager] El Ravager taps dude(the dudes are 3/3 Call of the Herd tokens)
I've got a Battle-Axed Taurean Mauler, a Soulstroke, a Banneret, a Harbinger, and I'd activated my Mutavault, throwing basically everything in front of his attackers except the Banneret.
0:17:37 [El Ravager] El Ravager taps dude
0:17:45 [PopeZBT] PopeZBT taps Primal Beyond
0:17:48 [PopeZBT] Mutavault is now Creature Land
0:17:48 [PopeZBT] Mutavault is now 3/3
0:17:53 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Ok
0:17:56 [PopeZBT] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Blockers Step
0:18:09 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> 3 trample
0:18:14 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> kill the vault
0:18:23 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> 3 trample
0:18:29 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> thats 6 damage
0:19:02 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> you cant stop the trample
0:19:02 [PopeZBT] PopeZBT puts Mulldrifter to Graveyard from Play
0:19:02 [PopeZBT] PopeZBT puts Mutavault to Graveyard from Play
0:19:02 [PopeZBT] PopeZBT puts Taurean Mauler to Graveyard from Play
0:19:02 [PopeZBT] PopeZBT puts Incandescent Soulstoke to Graveyard from Play
Here's where things go weird...
0:19:06 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> you are dead sir
0:19:20 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> I can by throwing toughness equal to the power in front of it.
0:19:28 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> no...
0:19:30 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> yes
0:19:35 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> I choose how to distribute damage
0:19:40 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> Okay.
0:19:50 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> so you lose.
0:19:53 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> You have to deal lethal dmg to blocking creatures
0:20:00 [PopeZBT] PopeZBT puts Flamekin Harbinger to Graveyard from Play
0:20:02 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> No I don't
0:20:07 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> Yes you do
0:20:10 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> dont try to pull a fast one on me
0:20:12 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> lol
0:20:16 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> nice try though
0:20:18 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> lol, I'm not
0:20:21 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> hang on
0:20:25 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> yes you are....
0:20:42 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> no, I'll get the rules for you
0:20:48 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Its a waste of time
0:20:57 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Trample can be dealt however I wish
0:20:59 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> not really
0:21:02 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> yes really
0:21:04 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> no
0:21:08 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> yes
0:21:41 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> I've not played the game recently but 4 or 5 years ago I'd played it for quite a while and was even a judge
0:21:57 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> I don't know how some of the newer rules work and took your word for it
0:22:07 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> but trample has been around since the beginning
0:22:11 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> Wow, then you were the worst judge I've ever heard of. (Okay, maybe I was being a little harsh here, but it is partly true...)
0:22:22 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> True, and it's worked this way since the beginning.
0:22:29 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> No it has not
0:22:47 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Either you are truly an idiot, or you know I'm right and hoping I'm an idiot
0:22:58 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> either way you fail
0:23:01 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Good day sir.
0:23:06 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Go look up the rules
0:23:09 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> I am.
0:23:13 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> And you're wrong.
0:23:22 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> Hello MTGSalvation MWS funnys thread...
0:23:40 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Good day sir...
0:23:46 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Grow up a lil...
0:23:49 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
Wow...that guy needs to learn a rule or two. He DC'ed right as I found the relevant rules (I don't have the comp. rules bookmarked, and couldn't find them in time.)
Just out of curiosity, was I right or wrong about Trample working like that from the beginning?
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She's a two-faced ****rag ***** bucket with NO grasp on reality or objectivity let alone sincerity or humanity!!! She FEEDS on drama, all day every day, like a ****ing prostitute feeds on STDs--- in much the same way, mind you...
hmm, can't say what the hell he was playing....i couldn't keep track of his cards. lol. gotta love games like that though.
But, you can laugh at me too, because even though i've seen Uba before, i still don't know what it did until i looked it up.
But you didn't have one sitting in front of you. It's one thing to have to look up a card when it's referenced on a message board, but to not read one when it's played right in front of you is just ignorance.
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She's a two-faced ****rag ***** bucket with NO grasp on reality or objectivity let alone sincerity or humanity!!! She FEEDS on drama, all day every day, like a ****ing prostitute feeds on STDs--- in much the same way, mind you...
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Either you missed the [/sarcasm] tag in his post, or I missed it in yours.
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1: Have some combination of a Warden/Auriok Champion and Saffi in play and or the graveyard.
2: Play Crypt Champion without red, returning either Saffi or the Warden/AChampion, whichever is in the graveyard.
3: Sacrifice Saffi, targeting Crypt Champion.
4: Repeat steps 2-3 ad nauseum.
5: ??????
6: Profit!!!!!!
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0:04:09 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Swamp
0:04:09 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Plains
0:04:09 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Island
0:04:10 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Esper Charm from Hand (targeting his Luminarch Ascension with 3 counters on it)
0:04:17 [mEtHoD] mEtHoD taps Mountain
0:04:18 [mEtHoD] mEtHoD taps Island
0:04:19 [mEtHoD] mEtHoD plays Swerve from Hand
0:04:30 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> no other legal target...
0:04:35 [mEtHoD] <mEtHoD> nope
0:04:44 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> so you can't swerve it
0:04:48 [mEtHoD] <mEtHoD> yah
0:04:49 [mEtHoD] <mEtHoD> i draw 2
0:04:56 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> you can't change the mode
0:05:00 [mEtHoD] <mEtHoD> damn u noob
0:05:01 [mEtHoD] <mEtHoD> cya
0:05:02 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
I'm PopePaul. The board was his Ascension, My Jace and Ajani, and a bunch of lands. I knew Swerve was good, but I didn't think it was that good!
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I would've sworn that was something you could do. I don't know where I got the idea, but I was. My bad.
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0:05:19 [Rbto_0] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:05:21 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 untaps his/her permanents
0:05:21 [Rbto_0] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:05:21 [Rbto_0] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:05:21 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 draws a card
0:05:21 [Rbto_0] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:05:22 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 plays Swamp from Hand
0:05:26 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Crumbling Necropolis
0:05:26 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Jwar Isle Refuge
0:05:26 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Jwar Isle Refuge
0:05:26 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Crypt of Agadeem
0:05:26 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Crumbling Necropolis
0:05:27 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Crypt of Agadeem
0:05:31 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Swamp
0:05:31 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Swamp
0:05:32 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Swamp
0:05:32 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Swamp
0:05:40 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 plays Consume Spirit from Hand
0:05:44 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0's life total is now 16 (+10)
0:05:45 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0's life total is now 18 (+2)
0:05:46 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 puts Consume Spirit to Graveyard from Play
0:05:48 [PopePaul] PopePaul's life total is now 3 (-10)
0:05:50 [PopePaul] PopePaul's life total is now 1 (-2)
0:05:51 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> End my turn
0:05:53 [PopePaul] It is now turn 23 (PopePaul)
0:05:53 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:05:54 [PopePaul] PopePaul untaps his/her permanents
0:05:54 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:05:56 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:05:56 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws a card
0:05:56 [PopePaul] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:06:06 [PopePaul] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:06:07 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Angel
0:06:07 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Angel
0:06:08 [Rbto_0] PopePaul taps Angel
0:06:09 [Rbto_0] PopePaul taps Angel
0:06:10 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0's life total is now 10 (-8)
0:06:15 [PopePaul] It is now the Postcombat Main Phase
0:06:19 [PopePaul] Ajani Vengeant now has 5 (+1) counters.
0:06:28 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> End my turn
0:06:29 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Ok
0:06:30 [Rbto_0] It is now turn 24 (Rbto_0)
0:06:30 [Rbto_0] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:06:31 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 untaps his/her permanents
0:06:31 [Rbto_0] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:06:31 [Rbto_0] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:06:32 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 draws a card
0:06:32 [Rbto_0] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:06:35 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Crumbling Necropolis
0:06:35 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Jwar Isle Refuge
0:06:36 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 taps Swamp
0:06:36 [Rbto_0] Rbto_0 plays Blightning from Hand
0:06:50 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> redirect the damage to Ajani
0:06:54 [PopePaul] Ajani Vengeant now has 2 (-3) counters.
0:06:55 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> nop
0:06:59 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> yes
0:07:01 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> 3 to you
0:07:06 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> why does no one know you can do this
0:07:21 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> i dealt 3 dam to you
0:07:23 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> I can choose to have any noncombat damage dealt to me, be dealt to my planeswalker
0:07:25 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> i win
0:07:30 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> nop
0:07:32 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> that my choise man
0:07:33 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> yes
0:07:36 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> please know magic rules
0:07:40 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> I do know
0:07:43 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> you should
0:07:49 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> i choise win the game
0:07:50 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> ok
0:07:56 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> worst player ever
0:08:02 [Rbto_0] <Rbto_0> quit play magic stuped noby
0:08:03 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
Am I wrong? I thought you could use your Planeswalkers like that...
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It's cool. I didn't take any offense or anything.
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Sorry, I was PopePaul. And that's what happened. It was his Main Phase, he PtE'd my Finks, then responded by Helixing my Goyf. I put it in the yard, and then realized it didn't work that way.
Ummm, no. He was wrong. Unless they changed the way the spells are cast/resolve, Helix goes to the graveyard, Goyf becomes a 3/4 with 3 damage on it, and the game continues.
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There was land and creatures in the graveyards, and both of us had a Goyf.
0:04:07 [PopePaul] PopePaul puts Kitchen Finks to RFG from Play
0:04:11 [Proph] <Proph> res
0:04:12 [Proph] Proph taps Sacred Foundry
0:04:13 [Proph] Proph taps Hallowed Fountain
0:04:14 [Proph] Proph plays Lightning Helix from Hand
0:04:20 [PopePaul] PopePaul puts Tarmogoyf to Graveyard from Play
0:04:21 [Proph] Proph's life total is now 14 (+3)
0:04:22 [Proph] Proph puts Lightning Helix to Graveyard from Play
0:04:23 [Proph] Proph puts Path to Exile to Graveyard from Play
0:04:26 [Proph] Tarmogoyf is now 3/4
0:04:27 [Proph] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:04:28 [PopePaul] Proph taps Wild Nacatl
0:04:28 [Proph] Proph taps Wild Nacatl
0:04:29 [PopePaul] Proph taps Qasali Pridemage
0:04:29 [Proph] Proph taps Qasali Pridemage
0:04:29 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Wait!
0:04:29 [PopePaul] Proph taps Tarmogoyf
0:04:30 [Proph] Proph taps Tarmogoyf
0:04:30 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Wait!
0:04:36 [Proph] <Proph> k
0:04:53 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> unfortunately, lol, you can't kill Goyf with an instant like that...
0:05:09 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Helix goes to GY, then SBEs are checked...and Goyf is a 3/4
0:05:13 [Proph] <Proph> i said res...res = response
0:05:19 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> doesn't matter
0:05:22 [Proph] <Proph> no damage is resolved
0:05:29 [Proph] <Proph> then the card hits the graveyard
0:05:38 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> as part of the resolution of a spell, it's put into the graveyard
0:05:50 [Proph] <Proph> no damage is resolved
0:05:56 [Proph] <Proph> then card goes to yard
0:06:00 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> then State-Based Effects are checked
0:06:05 [Proph] <Proph> right
0:06:09 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Goyf is a 3/4 with 3 damage on it.
0:06:11 [Proph] <Proph> so damage...then check
0:06:20 [Proph] <Proph> damage = death
0:06:23 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> no
0:06:31 [Proph] <Proph> lol yes
0:06:41 [Proph] <Proph> i deal lethal damage
0:06:42 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> State-Based Effects see a 3/4 with 3 damage and don't care
0:06:51 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> I can get the relevant rules if you like
0:06:55 [Proph] <Proph> for sure man
0:07:11 [Proph] <Proph> cause i have been playing with goyf for over a year
0:07:28 [Proph] <Proph> and never had a judge rule that lethal damage does not kill a creature
0:07:32 [Proph] <Proph> lol
0:07:50 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> People have known about this interaction with Goyf for years
0:07:59 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> If a judge told you differently, he told you wrong
0:08:25 [Proph] <Proph> damage is dealt...then the card goes to yard...has always been that way
0:08:42 [Proph] <Proph> card does not go to yard and then resolve damage
0:08:53 [Proph] <Proph> sorry man if you got wrong info too
0:09:37 [Proph] <Proph> are you going to search for a land?
0:10:24 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
Didn't these issues get known by all and wide like 2 years ago?
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I know, but I like that even less, somehow.
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Thanks! Now I just have to get accustomed to the sounds it makes...
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Of course, if they're more worried about Archive Trap, then they can just not search for PtE...
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[FR] Grom's Security Code: C7C037F3 [Type 2]
PopePaul's Security Code: FB27D7CF [Type 2]
It is now turn 1 ([FR] Grom)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
<PopePaul> Hey
<[FR] Grom> Hello
[FR] Grom rolled a 20, using a 20 sided die
[FR] Grom shuffles library
PopePaul rolled a 3, using a 20 sided die
PopePaul shuffles library
[FR] Grom shuffles library
PopePaul shuffles library
[FR] Grom shuffles library
PopePaul shuffles library
<[FR] Grom> pl
PopePaul shuffles library
PopePaul draws 7 cards
[FR] Grom shuffles library
[FR] Grom shuffles library
[FR] Grom shuffles library
[FR] Grom draws 7 cards
<PopePaul> I'll keep
<[FR] Grom> kp
[FR] Grom plays Plains from Hand
[FR] Grom taps Plains
[FR] Grom plays Figure of Destiny from Hand
It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
<[FR] Grom> End my turn
It is now turn 2 (PopePaul)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
PopePaul draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
PopePaul plays Arcane Sanctum from Hand
<PopePaul> End my turn
<System> Player Lost
PopePaul vs Joel [3/2/2009 1:25:33 PM]
0:00:00 [PopePaul] <New Game: waiting for opponent>
0:00:00 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:00 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Yatta!
0:00:00 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws 0 cards
0:00:00 [Joel] Joel shuffles library
0:00:00 [Joel] <Joel> Bring it.
0:00:00 [Joel] Joel draws 0 cards
0:00:00 [Joel] <-------- New Game Started -------->
0:00:00 [Joel] Joel's Security Code: 1AA6AD94 [???]
0:00:00 [Joel] PopePaul's Security Code: FB27D7CF [Type 2]
0:00:00 [Joel] It is now turn 1 (Joel)
0:00:00 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:00 [Joel] <Joel> hi
0:00:01 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> Hey
0:00:01 [Joel] Joel shuffles library
0:00:02 [Joel] Joel shuffles library
0:00:02 [PopePaul] PopePaul rolled a 14, using a 20 sided die
0:00:03 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:04 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:05 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:06 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:06 [Joel] Joel rolled a 3, using a 20 sided die
0:00:07 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:08 [PopePaul] It is now turn 2 (PopePaul)
0:00:08 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:09 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> I'll Play
0:00:10 [PopePaul] PopePaul shuffles library
0:00:11 [Joel] Joel draws 7 cards
0:00:11 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws 7 cards
0:00:12 [Joel] <Joel> kp
0:00:17 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> I'll keep
0:00:20 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Arcane Sanctum from Hand
0:00:21 [Joel] <Joel> ok
0:00:21 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> End my turn
0:00:27 [Joel] It is now turn 3 (Joel)
0:00:27 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:28 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:00:28 [Joel] Joel draws a card
0:00:28 [Joel] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:00:35 [Joel] Joel plays Savage Lands from Hand
0:00:37 [Joel] <Joel> End my turn
0:00:39 [PopePaul] It is now turn 4 (PopePaul)
0:00:39 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:40 [PopePaul] PopePaul untaps his/her permanents
0:00:40 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:00:41 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:00:41 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws a card
0:00:41 [PopePaul] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:00:44 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Arcane Sanctum from Hand
0:00:46 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> End my turn
0:00:53 [Joel] It is now turn 5 (Joel)
0:00:53 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:54 [Joel] Joel untaps his/her permanents
0:00:54 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:00:55 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:00:56 [Joel] Joel draws a card
0:00:56 [Joel] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:00:58 [Joel] Joel plays Treetop Village from Hand
0:01:03 [Joel] <Joel> End my turn
0:01:04 [PopePaul] It is now turn 6 (PopePaul)
0:01:04 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:01:05 [PopePaul] PopePaul untaps his/her permanents
0:01:05 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:01:07 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:01:07 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws a card
0:01:07 [PopePaul] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:01:14 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Fetid Heath from Hand
0:01:15 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Arcane Sanctum
0:01:15 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Arcane Sanctum
0:01:15 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Fetid Heath
0:01:17 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Stillmoon Cavalier from Hand
0:01:19 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> End my turn
0:01:25 [Joel] It is now turn 7 (Joel)
0:01:25 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:01:26 [Joel] Joel untaps his/her permanents
0:01:26 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:01:27 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:01:27 [Joel] Joel draws a card
0:01:27 [Joel] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:01:28 [Joel] Joel plays Swamp from Hand
0:01:35 [Joel] Joel taps Savage Lands
0:01:36 [Joel] Joel taps Swamp
0:01:38 [Joel] Treetop Village is now Creature Land
0:01:38 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 0/0
0:01:38 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 1/1
0:01:38 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 2/2
0:01:39 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 3/3
0:01:40 [Joel] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:01:41 [PopePaul] Joel taps Treetop Village
0:01:41 [Joel] Joel taps Treetop Village
0:01:42 [PopePaul] PopePaul's life total is now 17 (-3)
0:01:48 [Joel] <Joel> End my turn
0:01:49 [PopePaul] It is now turn 8 (PopePaul)
0:01:49 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:01:50 [PopePaul] PopePaul untaps his/her permanents
0:01:50 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:01:52 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:01:52 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws a card
0:01:52 [PopePaul] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:01:56 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 2/2
0:01:56 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 1/1
0:01:57 [Joel] Treetop Village is now 0/0
0:01:57 [Joel] Treetop Village is now Land
0:02:06 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Reflecting Pool from Hand
0:02:09 [PopePaul] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:02:10 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Stillmoon Cavalier
0:02:12 [Joel] PopePaul taps Stillmoon Cavalier
0:02:14 [Joel] Joel's life total is now 18 (-2)
0:02:16 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> End my turn
0:02:20 [Joel] It is now turn 9 (Joel)
0:02:20 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:02:21 [Joel] Joel untaps his/her permanents
0:02:21 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:02:21 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:02:22 [Joel] Joel draws a card
0:02:22 [Joel] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:02:25 [Joel] Joel taps Savage Lands
0:02:26 [Joel] Joel taps Treetop Village
0:02:27 [Joel] Joel plays Fertile Ground from Hand
0:02:28 [Joel] Fertile Ground is enchanting Swamp now
0:02:32 [Joel] <Joel> End my turn
0:02:39 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Reflecting Pool
0:02:39 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Arcane Sanctum
0:02:40 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Arcane Sanctum
0:02:42 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Esper Charm from Hand
0:02:48 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws 2 cards
0:02:52 [PopePaul] PopePaul puts Esper Charm to Graveyard from Play
0:02:53 [PopePaul] It is now turn 10 (PopePaul)
0:02:53 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:02:54 [PopePaul] PopePaul untaps his/her permanents
0:02:54 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:02:56 [PopePaul] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:02:56 [PopePaul] PopePaul draws a card
0:02:56 [PopePaul] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:03:01 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Sunken Ruins from Hand
0:03:04 [PopePaul] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:03:04 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Stillmoon Cavalier
0:03:08 [Joel] PopePaul taps Stillmoon Cavalier
0:03:14 [Joel] Joel's life total is now 16 (-2)
0:03:15 [PopePaul] <PopePaul> End my turn
0:03:31 [Joel] It is now turn 11 (Joel)
0:03:31 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:03:32 [Joel] Joel untaps his/her permanents
0:03:33 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:03:33 [Joel] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:03:33 [Joel] Joel draws a card
0:03:33 [Joel] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:03:35 [Joel] Joel plays Mountain from Hand
0:03:41 [Joel] Joel taps Savage Lands
0:03:41 [Joel] Joel taps Treetop Village
0:03:41 [Joel] Joel taps Swamp
0:03:41 [Joel] Joel taps Fertile Ground
0:03:41 [Joel] Joel taps Mountain
0:03:43 [Joel] Joel plays Primal Command from Hand (pointing at my Arcane sanctum)
0:03:50 [Joel] <Joel> and search
0:03:53 [PopePaul] PopePaul plays Cryptic Command from Hand
0:03:54 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Arcane Sanctum
0:03:55 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Fetid Heath
0:03:56 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Reflecting Pool
0:03:56 [Joel] Joel is looking its Library...
0:03:56 [PopePaul] PopePaul taps Sunken Ruins
0:04:03 [Joel] Joel puts Cloudthresher into play from Library
0:04:05 [Joel] Joel shuffles library
0:04:05 [Joel] Joel stops looking its Library...
0:04:10 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
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I'm playing a homebrew R/u/b/w Elemental Warriors deck, he's playing GW snow control, I guess.
It starts out okay, until here:
0:11:10 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> targetting?
0:11:16 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> doesn't target
0:11:35 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> You have to champion a specified elemental....
0:11:50 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> I don't have to choose until the champion trigger resolves.
0:12:06 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> u sure?
0:12:09 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> Positive.
0:12:11 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> k
0:12:21 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> does it resolve?
0:12:24 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> sure
I'm thinking "Okay, that's a pretty standard new player mistake, whatever." It helped that he didn't fight me over it.
Then this happened:
0:17:26 [El Ravager] dude is now 6/6
0:17:30 [El Ravager] Knight of Meadowgrain is now 5/5
0:17:34 [El Ravager] dude is now 5/5
0:17:35 [El Ravager] It is now the Combat Phase, Beginning Of Combat Step
0:17:37 [El Ravager] El Ravager taps Knight of Meadowgrain
0:17:37 [El Ravager] El Ravager taps dude(the dudes are 3/3 Call of the Herd tokens)
I've got a Battle-Axed Taurean Mauler, a Soulstroke, a Banneret, a Harbinger, and I'd activated my Mutavault, throwing basically everything in front of his attackers except the Banneret.
0:17:37 [El Ravager] El Ravager taps dude
0:17:45 [PopeZBT] PopeZBT taps Primal Beyond
0:17:48 [PopeZBT] Mutavault is now Creature Land
0:17:48 [PopeZBT] Mutavault is now 3/3
0:17:53 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Ok
0:17:56 [PopeZBT] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Blockers Step
0:18:09 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> 3 trample
0:18:14 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> kill the vault
0:18:23 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> 3 trample
0:18:29 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> thats 6 damage
0:19:02 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> you cant stop the trample
0:19:02 [PopeZBT] PopeZBT puts Mulldrifter to Graveyard from Play
0:19:02 [PopeZBT] PopeZBT puts Mutavault to Graveyard from Play
0:19:02 [PopeZBT] PopeZBT puts Taurean Mauler to Graveyard from Play
0:19:02 [PopeZBT] PopeZBT puts Incandescent Soulstoke to Graveyard from Play
Here's where things go weird...
0:19:06 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> you are dead sir
0:19:20 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> I can by throwing toughness equal to the power in front of it.
0:19:28 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> no...
0:19:30 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> yes
0:19:35 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> I choose how to distribute damage
0:19:40 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> Okay.
0:19:50 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> so you lose.
0:19:53 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> You have to deal lethal dmg to blocking creatures
0:20:00 [PopeZBT] PopeZBT puts Flamekin Harbinger to Graveyard from Play
0:20:02 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> No I don't
0:20:07 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> Yes you do
0:20:10 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> dont try to pull a fast one on me
0:20:12 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> lol
0:20:16 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> nice try though
0:20:18 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> lol, I'm not
0:20:21 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> hang on
0:20:25 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> yes you are....
0:20:42 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> no, I'll get the rules for you
0:20:48 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Its a waste of time
0:20:57 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Trample can be dealt however I wish
0:20:59 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> not really
0:21:02 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> yes really
0:21:04 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> no
0:21:08 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> yes
0:21:41 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> I've not played the game recently but 4 or 5 years ago I'd played it for quite a while and was even a judge
0:21:57 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> I don't know how some of the newer rules work and took your word for it
0:22:07 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> but trample has been around since the beginning
0:22:11 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> Wow, then you were the worst judge I've ever heard of. (Okay, maybe I was being a little harsh here, but it is partly true...)
0:22:22 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> True, and it's worked this way since the beginning.
0:22:29 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> No it has not
0:22:47 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Either you are truly an idiot, or you know I'm right and hoping I'm an idiot
0:22:58 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> either way you fail
0:23:01 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Good day sir.
0:23:06 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Go look up the rules
0:23:09 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> I am.
0:23:13 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> And you're wrong.
0:23:22 [PopeZBT] <PopeZBT> Hello MTGSalvation MWS funnys thread...
0:23:40 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Good day sir...
0:23:46 [El Ravager] <El Ravager> Grow up a lil...
0:23:49 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
Wow...that guy needs to learn a rule or two. He DC'ed right as I found the relevant rules (I don't have the comp. rules bookmarked, and couldn't find them in time.)
Just out of curiosity, was I right or wrong about Trample working like that from the beginning?
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But you didn't have one sitting in front of you. It's one thing to have to look up a card when it's referenced on a message board, but to not read one when it's played right in front of you is just ignorance.
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