Today is the ten year anniversary of Club Flamingo. While the thread has well and truly died, I thought I'd come back one last time for the traditional Statistics Update. In the meantime, I left some words over in our new home if you would like to read a bit more.
I don't really anticipate posting here again, unfortunately. RIP to MTGS, my fondest internet home, and certainly the one with the most lasting impact to my life. Maybe if we're all still around in 2030 we can get some scotch and celebrate.
Club Flamingo Statistics Update — November 2020
Thread Rating: ☆☆☆☆☆. It always was and always will be.
Thread Size: Interestingly, we have actually lost posts since the last update: Our total today is 55,484. Two years ago when I left the last update, we had 61,261. I think this has something to do with either the purging of European account data due to GDPR or the various changing hands of ownership. Either way, we still beat the next biggest thread by almost 20k posts, so the crown is retained.
Thread Views: Views, on the other hand, don't seem to have been purged. We are still well in first with 2,540,885 views, up from 2,324,835 views last time!
Posts per Day Lifetime: N/A. Due to the loss of posts, this stat isn't really valid anymore, unfortunately.
Posts per Day since last update: N/A, see above.
Thanks Count: 67. Last time I joked that people might have forgotten about Thanks and reminded them to do it. It actually looks like somebody did go and add a Thank to the OP. One person in two years. Amazing. There is hope, after all.
Top Ten Most Prolific Posters, Lifetime:
Chemtrails – 3496 (-) Megiddo – 3282 (+6)
Cythare – 2848 (-)
admirableadmiral – 2581 (-)
AsianInvasion – 2572 (-)
void_nothing – 1805 (+99)
Oculus – 1675 (-) avatarz – 1476 (+14) (Casualty of the Purge) Winterspring – 1409 (+67) (Casualty of the Purge)
MDenham – 1355 (-)
Cardz5000 - 1350 (-)
pstmdrn - 1242 (-)
avatarz and Winterspring appear to be casualties of the data purge I mentioned above, unfortunately. That means that Cardz5000 and pstmdrn have officially made the list! void_nothing also made a valiant effort once again with 99 posts! Still just a hair out of the top 5, though.
That’s why I was asking if anyone knew how to contact Megiddo. I would really really like it to be him that starts the club on nexus, otherwise it would just feel wrong.
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What will happen to club Flamingo when the site closes?
Could we make Club Flamingo it’s own website?
well, somebody could make a new Club Flamingo thread on the new site.
To be clear I'm referring to myself there.
I wasn't expecting to have to make a new post so soon after the last one, but I guess my hand was forced.
When the time comes and the new site is up I'll make a new Club Flamingo there, as well as providing one final retrospective post here. End of an era indeed, but just like last time it'll rise again.
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i'm pretty sure i can find your ***** online within 3 minutes
This month was the eight year anniversary of this thread. Eight years! It's honestly incredible to me that this thread has kept chugging along for this long.
While I may have left Club Flamingo, Club Flamingo hasn't left me. This thread, and what came out of it, continues to have influence on my life. Just ask my friends, who give me flamingo-themed gifts every year for Christmas. Or look at my household's semi-regular celebrations of "Flamingo Time," an impromptu holiday based on the time shown on a broken flamingo clock I have hanging above the entrance to my kitchen. This strange corner of the internet was a huge part of my life back in the day, and it makes me happy to see that it's still going in some form eight years later. Maybe if it's still around two years from now we can do something special for the ten year anniversary.
With all of that said, here's another Statistics update:
Club Flamingo Statistics Update — November 2018
Thread Rating: ☆☆☆☆☆. Thread ratings don't exist anymore, but I'm grandfathering this rating in. You are all worth five stars to me.
Thread Size: Unsurprisingly, we're still #1 with 61,261 posts. As of the last update three years ago we had 59,150 posts. That's only 2,111 posts over three years (as compared to the 17,600 reported in the two year period covered by the last statistics post), but from what I understand about overall forum traffic this isn't that surprising to me. Still, the glory days of nonstop spam appear to have ended.
Thread Views: First, with 2,324,835 views! Three years ago we were at 2,008,742 views. Crazy. Is anybody even looking at any other threads? You know, if everybody who looked at the thread posted we might have better stats for next time.
Posts per Day Lifetime: 20.61. This is a significant drop from the 34.19 we had three years ago. The thread has now been alive for 2,972 days, which I may remind you again is eight years.
Posts per Day since last update: 1.69. Last time I checked this the average was 24.42. This represents 2,111 posts over 1,243 days. If you scroll back through past statistics updates you'll see our highest-ever PPD rate was 99.35 over a single month period. So... it's been higher.
Thanks Count: 66. Maybe people have forgotten about this feature? Go thank the OP if you haven't, if only so that in 2025 when I come back here I'll get to say we kept that going up.
No changes to the top 10 (other than some change in position)... and I'm not sure whether there ever really will be. void_nothing is has made the biggest gains lately but still has a long way to go to crack the top 5.
I don't mean to turn this into a discussion thread but....Why did this thread suddenly die out after 50,000 plus posts? Sorry if the reason behind this is common knowledge, I have never been a regular poster in this thread. I am just a curious observer.
We took a pretty big hit to both numbers and momentum with the switch to Curse.
This thread died due to a combination of factors, largely the quoted.
Switch to Curse led to a few problems. The site was the first rollout of custom forum software for Curse, so we were in effect beta testing. We also asked for many of our custom vBulletin features to be replicated (see: public polls, etc.) and while we got many, I'm sure we sacrificed overall usability for this. Devs can only work on so many things at a time.
The mobile site in particular was particularly unruly. We finally got a mobile view but it was not really super great and had a lot of usability issues. Bad mobile ads today keep me from using the site on my phone.
One more thing that often goes unmentioned is that Curse is categorized by many work filters as a gaming site, while the old vBulletin site was not. So many people were no longer able to browse at the office.
Those three things combined led to a massive reduction in traffic for the site overall. Combine that with the unrelated rise of Reddit and Twitter as places for serious discussion about MTG and you get a losing formula. Old users weren't sticking around because things were bad, and potential new users just went to Reddit.
On a more personal note, a lot of this thread was driven by me and the Flamingo guys. Obviously not totally, but this thread was our old stomping ground before we started to pick people up and move to different chat media like IRC or whatever. As we grew older and our life circumstances changed we sort of grew out of it as well. I can only speak for myself, but this was where I dumped my time and energy when I was in college. After graduating I started to focus that energy elsewhere and lost interest in CCC on the whole. Without that, plus the fact that the Flamingo guys moved elsewhere, I lost reasons to visit.
It's a shame in some ways. I actually browse the weekly "best of" Reddit custom cards every week, but beyond that I don't really use this as a creative outlet anymore. I'm working full time and I have other hobbies now.
So, fond memories for me. It would be fun to start it up again but I just don't engage with this site often enough to check in.
We are still the biggest thread in this subforum by over 10k posts. It was a blast, but for me at least it's only memories now.
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I've been informed that we recently passed 2,000,000 thread views, which means that, after a two year hiatus, it's time for another...
Club Flamingo Statistics Update — July 2015
Thread Rating: ☆☆☆☆☆. We actually were at ☆☆☆☆ two years ago at this time but thread ratings no longer exist. This thread will always be 5 stars in my heart.
Thread Size: Unsurprisingly, we're still #1 with 59,150 posts. Note that two years ago at this time we had 41,490 posts. That's 17,660 posts in two years.
Thread Views: First, with 2,008,742 views! Crazy. Two years ago we were still at #2 (under the Alphabetical Card Game), but now we have nearly 300,000 views more than that thread.
Posts per Day Lifetime: 34.19, which is down a fair bit from 40.12 two years ago. With the overall lower activity this isn't surprising, of course, but I'm still impressed we have such a count even after the Curse changeover. This is 59,150 posts over 1730 days.
Posts per Day since last update: 24.42, which is (unsurprisingly) a giant drop from when we were last measured at 87.23 posts per day in a single month. This is 17,660 posts in 723 days. I think we can do better.
Thanks Count: 66. Only one new thank in two years? Go thank the OP if you haven't, you freeloading scoundrels.
And now for another special feature, the 2015 Flamingo Awards!
Our first category is the "I Really Hope Chutzpah Isn't a Dirty Word" award. This award is for the the previously-ranked poster that put the most work in over the last two years to maintain their rank. And the winner is...
Cythare!
With just over 1500 posts in the past two years, Cythare left zero room for debate as to where this award would be going tonight. Consider that he has more posts in that time period than our 8th place poster has lifetime. That's some hustle, folks.
Thanks so much! Please accept your
Our next category is the "Wait Where did this Guy Come From Again?" award. This special award is for the poster who made the deepest penetration into the leaderboard without having been previously ranked. And the winner is...
admirableadmiral!
While I don't have post stats for AA from back in the day to see how many posts he's actually logged on the board in the last two years, you can't argue with going from unranked to fifth place in that time. He has almost 1000 posts on the next contender, as well, which is very convincing.
Congratulations! Please accept your
Our final category for the evening is the "I Can't Believe it Actually Happened™" award. This is a special award for... well, if I tell you, it'll spoil it, so just roll with it for a second. And the winner is...
Chemtrails!
Chemtrails gets the award for a simple reason: He's now the most prolific poster in this thread ever. I think the official dethroning happened last year, but it's never too late to acknowledge this historic and frankly frightening achievement.
This is what I get for resting on my laurels! Please accept your
That wraps up the 2015 Flamingo Awards! Congratulations to all of the winners. We hope you enjoyed the show, and we'll see you back here in this very thread in another few years or so!
I don't really anticipate posting here again, unfortunately. RIP to MTGS, my fondest internet home, and certainly the one with the most lasting impact to my life. Maybe if we're all still around in 2030 we can get some scotch and celebrate.
Club Flamingo Statistics Update — November 2020
Thread Rating: ☆☆☆☆☆. It always was and always will be.
Thread Size: Interestingly, we have actually lost posts since the last update: Our total today is 55,484. Two years ago when I left the last update, we had 61,261. I think this has something to do with either the purging of European account data due to GDPR or the various changing hands of ownership. Either way, we still beat the next biggest thread by almost 20k posts, so the crown is retained.
Thread Views: Views, on the other hand, don't seem to have been purged. We are still well in first with 2,540,885 views, up from 2,324,835 views last time!
Posts per Day Lifetime: N/A. Due to the loss of posts, this stat isn't really valid anymore, unfortunately.
Posts per Day since last update: N/A, see above.
Thanks Count: 67. Last time I joked that people might have forgotten about Thanks and reminded them to do it. It actually looks like somebody did go and add a Thank to the OP. One person in two years. Amazing. There is hope, after all.
Top Ten Most Prolific Posters, Lifetime:
Chemtrails – 3496 (-)
Megiddo – 3282 (+6)
Cythare – 2848 (-)
admirableadmiral – 2581 (-)
AsianInvasion – 2572 (-)
void_nothing – 1805 (+99)
Oculus – 1675 (-)
avatarz – 1476 (+14)(Casualty of the Purge)Winterspring – 1409 (+67)(Casualty of the Purge)MDenham – 1355 (-)
Cardz5000 - 1350 (-)
pstmdrn - 1242 (-)
avatarz and Winterspring appear to be casualties of the data purge I mentioned above, unfortunately. That means that Cardz5000 and pstmdrn have officially made the list! void_nothing also made a valiant effort once again with 99 posts! Still just a hair out of the top 5, though.
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we just encroaching
https://www.mtgnexus.com/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=866
To be clear I'm referring to myself there.
I wasn't expecting to have to make a new post so soon after the last one, but I guess my hand was forced.
When the time comes and the new site is up I'll make a new Club Flamingo there, as well as providing one final retrospective post here. End of an era indeed, but just like last time it'll rise again.
MTGScursetwitch account I'll try to stop back more oftenWhile I may have left Club Flamingo, Club Flamingo hasn't left me. This thread, and what came out of it, continues to have influence on my life. Just ask my friends, who give me flamingo-themed gifts every year for Christmas. Or look at my household's semi-regular celebrations of "Flamingo Time," an impromptu holiday based on the time shown on a broken flamingo clock I have hanging above the entrance to my kitchen. This strange corner of the internet was a huge part of my life back in the day, and it makes me happy to see that it's still going in some form eight years later. Maybe if it's still around two years from now we can do something special for the ten year anniversary.
With all of that said, here's another Statistics update:
Club Flamingo Statistics Update — November 2018
Thread Rating: ☆☆☆☆☆. Thread ratings don't exist anymore, but I'm grandfathering this rating in. You are all worth five stars to me.
Thread Size: Unsurprisingly, we're still #1 with 61,261 posts. As of the last update three years ago we had 59,150 posts. That's only 2,111 posts over three years (as compared to the 17,600 reported in the two year period covered by the last statistics post), but from what I understand about overall forum traffic this isn't that surprising to me. Still, the glory days of nonstop spam appear to have ended.
Thread Views: First, with 2,324,835 views! Three years ago we were at 2,008,742 views. Crazy. Is anybody even looking at any other threads? You know, if everybody who looked at the thread posted we might have better stats for next time.
Posts per Day Lifetime: 20.61. This is a significant drop from the 34.19 we had three years ago. The thread has now been alive for 2,972 days, which I may remind you again is eight years.
Posts per Day since last update: 1.69. Last time I checked this the average was 24.42. This represents 2,111 posts over 1,243 days. If you scroll back through past statistics updates you'll see our highest-ever PPD rate was 99.35 over a single month period. So... it's been higher.
Thanks Count: 66. Maybe people have forgotten about this feature? Go thank the OP if you haven't, if only so that in 2025 when I come back here I'll get to say we kept that going up.
Top Ten Most Prolific Posters, Lifetime:
Chemtrails – 3496 (+62)
Megiddo – 3276 (+45)
Cythare – 2848 (+11)
admirableadmiral – 2581 (+66)
AsianInvasion – 2572 (-)
void_nothing – 1706 (+133)
Oculus – 1675 (+2)
avatarz – 1476 (+14)
Winterspring – 1409 (+67)
MDenham – 1355 (-)
No changes to the top 10 (other than some change in position)... and I'm not sure whether there ever really will be. void_nothing is has made the biggest gains lately but still has a long way to go to crack the top 5.
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Switch to Curse led to a few problems. The site was the first rollout of custom forum software for Curse, so we were in effect beta testing. We also asked for many of our custom vBulletin features to be replicated (see: public polls, etc.) and while we got many, I'm sure we sacrificed overall usability for this. Devs can only work on so many things at a time.
The mobile site in particular was particularly unruly. We finally got a mobile view but it was not really super great and had a lot of usability issues. Bad mobile ads today keep me from using the site on my phone.
One more thing that often goes unmentioned is that Curse is categorized by many work filters as a gaming site, while the old vBulletin site was not. So many people were no longer able to browse at the office.
Those three things combined led to a massive reduction in traffic for the site overall. Combine that with the unrelated rise of Reddit and Twitter as places for serious discussion about MTG and you get a losing formula. Old users weren't sticking around because things were bad, and potential new users just went to Reddit.
On a more personal note, a lot of this thread was driven by me and the Flamingo guys. Obviously not totally, but this thread was our old stomping ground before we started to pick people up and move to different chat media like IRC or whatever. As we grew older and our life circumstances changed we sort of grew out of it as well. I can only speak for myself, but this was where I dumped my time and energy when I was in college. After graduating I started to focus that energy elsewhere and lost interest in CCC on the whole. Without that, plus the fact that the Flamingo guys moved elsewhere, I lost reasons to visit.
It's a shame in some ways. I actually browse the weekly "best of" Reddit custom cards every week, but beyond that I don't really use this as a creative outlet anymore. I'm working full time and I have other hobbies now.
So, fond memories for me. It would be fun to start it up again but I just don't engage with this site often enough to check in.
We are still the biggest thread in this subforum by over 10k posts. It was a blast, but for me at least it's only memories now.
Am Shegar: 1. kind of cute but mostly a mess. 2. Math is hard. 3. No.
Scarbo: Neat but I think you pushed those stats just a tad.
Pancho: This doesn't appeal to me at all. Kind of weird?
CC: 10/10 great card thank you for gracing this thread with your genius
Winner: CC
Next: Interesting aggressive creatures.
Artifact — Equipment {U}
Flavorful ability
Equip 2
IIW: strength
post harder
you gotta work for your dreams
Club Flamingo Statistics Update — July 2015
Thread Rating: ☆☆☆☆☆. We actually were at ☆☆☆☆ two years ago at this time but thread ratings no longer exist. This thread will always be 5 stars in my heart.
Thread Size: Unsurprisingly, we're still #1 with 59,150 posts. Note that two years ago at this time we had 41,490 posts. That's 17,660 posts in two years.
Thread Views: First, with 2,008,742 views! Crazy. Two years ago we were still at #2 (under the Alphabetical Card Game), but now we have nearly 300,000 views more than that thread.
Posts per Day Lifetime: 34.19, which is down a fair bit from 40.12 two years ago. With the overall lower activity this isn't surprising, of course, but I'm still impressed we have such a count even after the Curse changeover. This is 59,150 posts over 1730 days.
Posts per Day since last update: 24.42, which is (unsurprisingly) a giant drop from when we were last measured at 87.23 posts per day in a single month. This is 17,660 posts in 723 days. I think we can do better.
Thanks Count: 66. Only one new thank in two years? Go thank the OP if you haven't, you freeloading scoundrels.
Top Ten Most Prolific Posters, Lifetime:
CrustaceanCrusader — 3434 (+1068)
Megiddo — 3231 (+466)
Cythare — 2837 (+1520)
AsianInvasion — 2572 (+1054)
admirableadmiral — 2515 (NR)
Oculus — 1673 (+149)
void_nothing — 1573 (NR)
avatarz — 1462 (NR)
MDenham — 1355 (+198)
Winterspring — 1342 (NR)
And now for another special feature, the 2015 Flamingo Awards!
Our first category is the "I Really Hope Chutzpah Isn't a Dirty Word" award. This award is for the the previously-ranked poster that put the most work in over the last two years to maintain their rank. And the winner is...
With just over 1500 posts in the past two years, Cythare left zero room for debate as to where this award would be going tonight. Consider that he has more posts in that time period than our 8th place poster has lifetime. That's some hustle, folks.
Thanks so much! Please accept your
Our next category is the "Wait Where did this Guy Come From Again?" award. This special award is for the poster who made the deepest penetration into the leaderboard without having been previously ranked. And the winner is...
While I don't have post stats for AA from back in the day to see how many posts he's actually logged on the board in the last two years, you can't argue with going from unranked to fifth place in that time. He has almost 1000 posts on the next contender, as well, which is very convincing.
Congratulations! Please accept your
Our final category for the evening is the "I Can't Believe it Actually Happened™" award. This is a special award for... well, if I tell you, it'll spoil it, so just roll with it for a second. And the winner is...
Chemtrails gets the award for a simple reason: He's now the most prolific poster in this thread ever. I think the official dethroning happened last year, but it's never too late to acknowledge this historic and frankly frightening achievement.
This is what I get for resting on my laurels! Please accept your
That wraps up the 2015 Flamingo Awards! Congratulations to all of the winners. We hope you enjoyed the show, and we'll see you back here in this very thread in another few years or so!
Thank you, and goodnight!
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