Modified deck a bit and played a great match against Comp. Modern League champion Beicodegeia (32 undefeated trophies this season) and his UR Storm. You can find decklist in "more info" video section.
It would be cool if people would read at least 4-5 pages before asking questions. There were a lot of thoughts on Nissa from everyone and some thoughts on Huntmaster from me.
HoF is cool against any aggro. It's ok to play 1 copy. 2 blockers, +2 HP, strong beater after flip.
It would be interesting to find statistics of Win Percentage if we are on draw and when we won the toss. I think it's terrible. I almost always lose 1-2 when I am on the draw.
Played 4-1 Competitive League yesterday, 5th game was against Jund. He won the toss and totally distrupted my great hand with Utopia and Moon in game 1 with 3 Inq in a row... 2nd game I won, then lost in 3rd to another awesome Jund hand.
Then I lost league 1-3 to Storm, Boggles and Humans. Every league I see Boggles at least one time. Storm is also popular, and so are aggrodecks like Humans, BR Hollow One etc. So I changed deck, here is actual list. Payed 24 Tix for 2 Trini. =(
Added one Huntmaster (bought brilliant new-arted woman version =). Huntmaster is one of my favorite cards in Magic, and it's great against Burn and various aggro. Stormbreath went to rest.
Added BtN to fight Boggles. Also added 2 Trinisphere in side in the place of Choke. What do you guys think of Trini? Awesome vs Storm, but where else will you side it? Tried it against Boggles, but he played a land on each of his turns and killed me with Kor. Boggles are terrible, even Turn 2 Moon often is not enough. How can we fight them, what do you think?
Here is an example of KWR profit. 2nd game against Storm, I sided out all Moons. Kept hand with Utopia and two Angers, then draw Courser and TON of lands. He played early Warrens, I cleared the board and attacked him with Courser during 3 or 4 turns, upping his attack with KWR. Then he played another Warrens, I played another Anger and won with Courser + KWR.
3rd game he made 8 Goblin Tokens on T2, I didn't draw Anger and lost...
To be clear; my point is that WHEN the draw happens if purely under our control. Tracker is magnificent against Discard strategies for this reason. If you have Haz, then crack the clue after u swing. It's that simple. It's not like we're a reactive deck that wants information on what our clues will be.
We have 4 Trackers, and some of you want to have 1-2 Hazoret in decks. When we resolve one of Trackers we will start producing Clues and at the first moment when we have free 2 mana we will sac them to draw a card, yep? We won't just sit around and don't break clues cause somewhere in deck we have one or two copies of Haz. So when we finally draw Haz our hand is full of cards very often. And if in the past you could discard 6th-7th-8th-... land to Haz ability, cause we didn't need them, now with TT we need all our lands to be played to produce Clues.
Hazoret is not good enough to be playable in our deck. See latest tournament decks that showed some success, see Complete Archetype Analysis here - there are 0 Hazorets even in Maybe-board.
Did you really get any use of Kessi? Cause a lot of people just said it got useless or they did not really use it at all. I also play bolt - but would you swap it for a mass removal? I'm not sure of that kind a change.
I used KWR many times for the past 2 years in this deck. It is great in situations when opp for example cleared the board with oblivion stone, your Moon died, Kitchen Finks died and resurrected, you add 5-6 attack to it and win. =) Also it is great to make dorks a threat. I think 1-of is ok, that it's colorless doesn't matter cause if it's the only land in your hand you should mulligan in any case (never keep 1-lander!). If not it's ok.
On Hazoret:
4 Tireless Trackers are not best friends with Haz. Now I often find myself having 3+ cards in hand even in lategame, and even if they are lands I don't want to discard them. Cause it's better to play them to get value from TT, to create Clues for card draw, make TT bigger and sac them for PKN.
Also it's worse than Dragon cause it has no evade ability like flying. Anything can chumpblock Haz. If you want blocker vs Tarmo and especially Fish/Tasigur/Shadow - put Chameleon Colossus in your side. It's almost as hard to remove + it has evasion vs black + it can become very-very big.
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Remember that slagstorm won't be able to hit planeswalkers anymore. Minor interaction, but not irrelevant. Same thing for Chandra's +1.
That's very sad. I liked killing Liliana with Chandra's +1 so much...
Relics are great vs Delve and Tarmo. Also card draw option is always good.
Personally I like Cages a lot, cause I hate Coco decks) But it also has antisynergy with Kitchen Finks in our sideboard, do nothing vs delve/tarmo... So Relics are better choice.
So I keep climbing Friendly Modern League in MTGO with GR Land Destruction. Played 17 Leagues, overall 7 times 3-2, 6 times 4-1, 2-3, 2 times 1-4 and finally won today, 5-0. Majority of matches I played my own build posted earlier, last 3 leagues played with deck inspired by SCG Open winner.
This is 5-0 list:
I really like this deck. Great interaction between Tireless Trackers and PKN. In a game vs Melira I cleared all his board with PKN, just sacrificing Clues to deal 2 dmg and make Trackers bigger. Trackers are brilliant. They grow insanely fast also providing card advantage. Killed storm on T4 with two fat Trackers.
1 Bird and 22 lands seems ok. No 2nd Bird cause it's so awful topdeck.
1 Dragon is fine. I sided it out more frequently than any other card, but it can be great threat against Wx Control. Won one of games vs UWR Monks with it.
2 Titans are important. Most of long games it's a topdeck that you await most.
Chameleon Colossus won game vs Jund. It can become bigger than Tarmo, and it's hard to remove it for Jund and Shadow decks. Vs Grixis Shadow it's also unblockable.
What else... Nissa is bad. It's a bad topdeck. It's only reasonable when it comes from Elf, but our cards should be great on their own.
And I really like Chandra. It's the best red PW in history, and it can a lot. Previously I played 3 of them. Now 2 are ok. +2 removals in deck, that can also kill Things in the Ice and TKS. +mana ramp, always useful. + card advantage, total 6 card advantage cards with 4 Trackers. Ult is also great and I used it a lot of times.
Hazoret is nothing comparing to Inferno Titan. It's a big mistake not playing him.
Also Nissa is useless in general, but especially when you don't play Birds and Pia and Kirans.
Played 7 MTGO Friendly Leagues with this deck, won all of them (I mean 3-2 is win, cause you gain Player Points to another one + Treasure Chest). 4 times 3-2, 3 times 4-1.
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2-0 Gr Tron
0-2 GR Vengevine
2-0 GR Vengevine
2-0 Gr Tron
2-0 GR Moon Aggro
Second game vs GR Vengevine was so cool that I uploaded it on YouTube. You can watch it if you want.
Anyway BR Hollow One and GR Vengevine are tough matchups for Land Destruction.
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HoF is cool against any aggro. It's ok to play 1 copy. 2 blockers, +2 HP, strong beater after flip.
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8 Forest
1 Kessig Wolf Run
1 Mountain
3 Stomping Ground
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
Creatures (20)
4 Arbor Elf
2 Birds of Paradise
4 Tireless Tracker
1 Courser of Kruphix
4 Bloodbraid Elf
2 Pia and Kiran Nalaar
1 Huntmaster of the Fells
2 Inferno Titan
2 Lightning Bolt
Sorceries (7)
3 Molten Rain
4 Stone Rain
Enchantments (8)
4 Blood Moon
4 Utopia Sprawl
Planeswalkers (2)
2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
2 Ancient Grudge
1 Shatterstorm
3 Anger of the Gods
2 Trinisphere
2 Relic of Progenitus
1 Back to Nature
1 Chameleon Colossus
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
2 Kitchen Finks
2-0 UW Control
2-1 Goblins
2-0 Gr Eldrazi
2-0 Grixis Shadow
2-0 UW Control
All games were easy. Vs Goblins Huntmaster won 3rd game. Vs Shadow PKN was cool, dealed 6 dmg to face.
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Then I lost league 1-3 to Storm, Boggles and Humans. Every league I see Boggles at least one time. Storm is also popular, and so are aggrodecks like Humans, BR Hollow One etc. So I changed deck, here is actual list. Payed 24 Tix for 2 Trini. =(
9 Forest
1 Kessig Wolf Run
1 Mountain
3 Stomping Ground
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
Creatures (19)
4 Arbor Elf
1 Birds of Paradise
4 Tireless Tracker
1 Courser of Kruphix
4 Bloodbraid Elf
2 Pia and Kiran Nalaar
1 Huntmaster of the Fells
2 Inferno Titan
2 Lightning Bolt
Sorceries (7)
3 Molten Rain
4 Stone Rain
Enchantments (8)
4 Blood Moon
4 Utopia Sprawl
Planeswalkers (2)
2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
2 Ancient Grudge
1 Shatterstorm
3 Anger of the Gods
2 Trinisphere
2 Relic of Progenitus
1 Back to Nature
1 Chameleon Colossus
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
2 Kitchen Finks
Added one Huntmaster (bought brilliant new-arted woman version =). Huntmaster is one of my favorite cards in Magic, and it's great against Burn and various aggro. Stormbreath went to rest.
Added BtN to fight Boggles. Also added 2 Trinisphere in side in the place of Choke. What do you guys think of Trini? Awesome vs Storm, but where else will you side it? Tried it against Boggles, but he played a land on each of his turns and killed me with Kor. Boggles are terrible, even Turn 2 Moon often is not enough. How can we fight them, what do you think?
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3rd game he made 8 Goblin Tokens on T2, I didn't draw Anger and lost...
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We have 4 Trackers, and some of you want to have 1-2 Hazoret in decks. When we resolve one of Trackers we will start producing Clues and at the first moment when we have free 2 mana we will sac them to draw a card, yep? We won't just sit around and don't break clues cause somewhere in deck we have one or two copies of Haz. So when we finally draw Haz our hand is full of cards very often. And if in the past you could discard 6th-7th-8th-... land to Haz ability, cause we didn't need them, now with TT we need all our lands to be played to produce Clues.
Hazoret is not good enough to be playable in our deck. See latest tournament decks that showed some success, see Complete Archetype Analysis here - there are 0 Hazorets even in Maybe-board.
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I used KWR many times for the past 2 years in this deck. It is great in situations when opp for example cleared the board with oblivion stone, your Moon died, Kitchen Finks died and resurrected, you add 5-6 attack to it and win. =) Also it is great to make dorks a threat. I think 1-of is ok, that it's colorless doesn't matter cause if it's the only land in your hand you should mulligan in any case (never keep 1-lander!). If not it's ok.
On Hazoret:
4 Tireless Trackers are not best friends with Haz. Now I often find myself having 3+ cards in hand even in lategame, and even if they are lands I don't want to discard them. Cause it's better to play them to get value from TT, to create Clues for card draw, make TT bigger and sac them for PKN.
Also it's worse than Dragon cause it has no evade ability like flying. Anything can chumpblock Haz. If you want blocker vs Tarmo and especially Fish/Tasigur/Shadow - put Chameleon Colossus in your side. It's almost as hard to remove + it has evasion vs black + it can become very-very big.
That's very sad. I liked killing Liliana with Chandra's +1 so much...
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Personally I like Cages a lot, cause I hate Coco decks) But it also has antisynergy with Kitchen Finks in our sideboard, do nothing vs delve/tarmo... So Relics are better choice.
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This is 5-0 list:
9 Forest
1 Kessig Wolf Run
1 Mountain
3 Stomping Ground
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
Creatures (19)
4 Arbor Elf
1 Birds of Paradise
4 Tireless Tracker
1 Courser of Kruphix
4 Bloodbraid Elf
2 Pia and Kiran Nalaar
1 Stormbreath Dragon
2 Inferno Titan
2 Lightning Bolt
Sorceries (7)
3 Molten Rain
4 Stone Rain
Enchantments (8)
4 Blood Moon
4 Utopia Sprawl
Planeswalkers (2)
2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
2 Ancient Grudge
1 Shatterstorm
3 Anger of the Gods
2 Choke
2 Relic of Progenitus
1 Thragtusk
1 Chameleon Colossus
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
2 Kitchen Finks
Matches:
2-0 Storm
2-1 Melira
2-0 Jund
2-1 Storm
2-0 UWR Monks
I really like this deck. Great interaction between Tireless Trackers and PKN. In a game vs Melira I cleared all his board with PKN, just sacrificing Clues to deal 2 dmg and make Trackers bigger. Trackers are brilliant. They grow insanely fast also providing card advantage. Killed storm on T4 with two fat Trackers.
1 Bird and 22 lands seems ok. No 2nd Bird cause it's so awful topdeck.
1 Dragon is fine. I sided it out more frequently than any other card, but it can be great threat against Wx Control. Won one of games vs UWR Monks with it.
2 Titans are important. Most of long games it's a topdeck that you await most.
Chameleon Colossus won game vs Jund. It can become bigger than Tarmo, and it's hard to remove it for Jund and Shadow decks. Vs Grixis Shadow it's also unblockable.
What else... Nissa is bad. It's a bad topdeck. It's only reasonable when it comes from Elf, but our cards should be great on their own.
And I really like Chandra. It's the best red PW in history, and it can a lot. Previously I played 3 of them. Now 2 are ok. +2 removals in deck, that can also kill Things in the Ice and TKS. +mana ramp, always useful. + card advantage, total 6 card advantage cards with 4 Trackers. Ult is also great and I used it a lot of times.
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Also Nissa is useless in general, but especially when you don't play Birds and Pia and Kirans.
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9 Forest
1 Kessig Wolf Run
1 Mountain
3 Stomping Ground
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
Creatures (18)
4 Arbor Elf
2 Birds of Paradise
4 Bloodbraid Elf
2 Inferno Titan
3 Kitchen Finks
1 Stormbreath Dragon
2 Tireless Tracker
3 Lightning Bolt
Sorceries (7)
2 Molten Rain
1 Primal Command
4 Stone Rain
Enchantments (8)
4 Blood Moon
4 Utopia Sprawl
Planeswalkers (2)
2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
1 Abrade
2 Ancient Grudge
1 Shatterstorm
3 Anger of the Gods
2 Choke
2 Relic of Progenitus
1 Thragtusk
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
2 Tireless Tracker
Played 7 MTGO Friendly Leagues with this deck, won all of them (I mean 3-2 is win, cause you gain Player Points to another one + Treasure Chest). 4 times 3-2, 3 times 4-1.
At some point I replaced Cages in side to Relics.
Here are match statistics:
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