Guttural Response worked very well on my tests (maybe just because no one was expecting it... I don't know...)
maybe it would worth if we had only the assaults as before - but now with vortex it may be replaced
witchbane orb :I still need to test it but it's the only good option I found against scapeshift and burn for a deck without white (no access to leyline of sanctity after opening hand), honestly I don't think a worth option use leyline and try to muligan until get it in a opening hand. It also may help against tron (stops +4 of Karn) , abzan and wb tokens (inquisition of kozilek , thoughtseize or duress ) - just like liliana the discard spells don't have a impact so relevant in my list but they may slow down the game
If someone has better options than the list above considering the current meta please share your thoughts
Also there's a giant chance that I missed some details regarding effects or abilities for cards above - if you found something just point it out
You're correct, in fact I was not seeing the whole picture of magmatic insight + life from the loam
If you consider the card only by itself it's not so good IMO, but the interaction with loam is really something for this deck
The noxious revival got into my list before the spoilers of Origins and I really didn't thought about it after magmatic insight and molten vortex join the list. I used it to bring back pyroclasm some times against affinity and B/W tokens with nice results so it end up staying in the list...
I also used it on my opponents some times in order to delay their hands, and avoiding some top draws...
I'm new at the forum and I've been following this thread on last 2 weeks, trying to organize a creature-less R/G list
I know black offers a lot of great options for a creature-less list but I want to take an easier and budget way considering the lands
I believe the 2 new cards ( magmatic insight and molten vortex ) mentioned on last days from Origins should help me with this
I still thinking about magmatic insight - I don't think that discard a land is so good for this deck most part of the times
(once as it resolves seismic assault or molten vortex would not be triggered by it )
Thinking about Tormenting Voice/Wild guess - we still at sorcery speed with all of them and in some of my testings at early game I missed my discarded lands, so....
I would like some constructive opinions about my list
I know my SB is not consistent for all meta-game but I'm kind of traumatized by my last matches against delver/twin
Also, I'm brazilian so, sorry about any mistakes on my english