You're right, I don't necessarily need to have win cons besides Arc Trailing people to death. Call of the Herd and Rolling Temblor are still not great cards tho.
I tried the Naya list out a bit. I agree that countermagic is a problem. Most games that I won against Blue tron involved landing a 3drop on turn 2. The deck has so much concentrated at 3 that I think you would want more than 4 birds. If I were to try it again I would play 3ish arbor elves. that should also help against counters in that you'd be able to cast more than one spell per turn. The deck also had problems casting Seismic Assault with all those non-red sources so a mana dork or more filterlands would be pretty good.
I think that Burning Vengeance is a pretty sweet card. Worse in a vacuum than Seismic Assault, but muuch more castable. Tho I really do not like raven's crime or other discard in a meta filled with treasure cruise. Here is a rough draft of what I intend to play next time I get the chance.
Call of the Herd and Rolling Temblor are the cards I'm least happy with and might later be replaced by a more legit win con. I don't wanna play goyf or snapcaster because I have some hope of the deck functioning with a RIP/relic out.
Is Treetop Village better than Stirring Wildwood in that build? It probably isn't a huge difference, but reach and the extra point of toughness can be relevant.
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I think that Burning Vengeance is a pretty sweet card. Worse in a vacuum than Seismic Assault, but muuch more castable. Tho I really do not like raven's crime or other discard in a meta filled with treasure cruise. Here is a rough draft of what I intend to play next time I get the chance.
4 Burning Vengeance
4 Thought Scour
4 Mana Leak
4 Remand
3 Faithless Looting
4 Call of the Herd
2 Rolling Temblor
4 Think Twice
3 Life from the Loam
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Lightning Bolt
1 Island
1 Mountain
1 Forest
2 Tectonic Edge
2 Ghost Quarter
1 Raging Ravine
1 Desolate Lighthouse
1 Breeding Pool
2 Steam Vents
1 Stomping Ground
Call of the Herd and Rolling Temblor are the cards I'm least happy with and might later be replaced by a more legit win con. I don't wanna play goyf or snapcaster because I have some hope of the deck functioning with a RIP/relic out.