Uhhhh, question guys, why on earth is this a tier 3 deck, the geist decks that Great Nate has been playing is the tier 1 decks that's been doing well in the tournaments and on mtgo. Meanwhile, the tier 2 jeskai thread is playing all sorts of jeskai decks
Went through your new list and your article on the sideboard plan
You said you wen't something like 4-4 in the tournament, do you feel that the new changes may have been a contribution to that? Cutting the snares, the remands, are the Grim's and the other changes worth it? Answering something like a Goyf, for 1 mana is a pretty big deal, it also answers the typical counter-spell
Would you still absolutely recommend the same list going to a big tournament, or did you get unlucky with pairings? How do you feel about Nahiri and playing a Jeskai deck that isn't utilizing her, do you feel you're better off playing Jeskai Flash or being stubborn wanting it to work over the new Nahiri deck?
I sold my Keranos on MTGO, want to get rid of him before he plummets. He's still a house against Jund and Junk, but Nahiri has almost single-handely killed off one of the best blue sideboard cards in modern
I had a quick question regarding Geist of Saint Traft (and most likely a stupid one). I'm currently playing it in my sideboard of one of my control decks, and I was wondering where you lot found it to be at its best? Not in junction with the surrounding burn and removal, but just when Geist as a card pulled the most weight. Like, I know that it can single-handedly win a game against a control player and can sufficiently race a deck like Tron or Combo, but I was wondering about matchups like Burn, or Infect for that matter.
Dude, Geist hoses burn, 6 damage along with bolts, helixes and electrolyzes is brutal
Infect is more about attritioning them than racing
Hey, guys, whats the sideboard plan for Collected Company and Kiki-Chord. What exactly do you cut? Suppose it's a fairly cookie-cutter list in the 75, very similar to Nate's minus an Izzet Charm
I get the feeling playing the long game is a massive mistake, since Gavony and tutors are going to wreck us? So, what do I cut and bring in?
I've been EXTREMELY impressed with serum visions in the deck. A few months ago you guys weren't running it, and debating about it. 3 Has a nice sweet spot, and just smooths out my first few turns
As advice against RG Titan, just jam Geist. The deck only runs about 3 Angers/Pyroclasms in the side, you aren't going to beat them in the long game. Stick a Geist, hope the don't burn it, counter what you can, and burn them out. You can survive one Titan coming down and fetching 2x Valakut, if a second Titan resolves, it's just over for you. Prismatic omen makes it so they can fetch 4 Valakuts and 2 lands for 60 something damage. Forget trying to be all conservative with your life, Geist is a scary clock if I don't have an Anger or Obstinate Baloth to drop
Yeah, his video's are definitely helpful. I enjoy watching it and his thought process on it, whether from learning it or even seeing where he punted. The deck feels great, often times I can see where I could have won the game in hindsight, outside of something awful like Vengevine and Boogle decks, there haven't been too many matchups where I felt I didn't have a chance
Definitely keep posting them. I based my deck off of the recent Nick Hansen list, the 3 serum visions really helps smooth out the deck without feeling too intrusive or dead, I think before the Eldrazi Winter people weren't really running it, and the deck felt a little clunkier and a little less easy on card advantage
I think a great example of watching his video was him playing Kiki-Chord, he wins game 1, tries to take the slower route with Keranos, Elspeth, boardwipes, etc. He gets overwhelmed because Kiki-Chord just has a way better late game, it helped me out recalling that and just aiming to go for the quick tempo-burn out plan, my initial reaction would have been to go late game control. Ended up winning that matchup
I'm still mainly a Jund player, but I miss Splinter Twin and miss the tempo plan and playing my stuff on my opponent's turn (outside of slamming a Geist and just spot removing threats they put down 1 at a time).
I've been watching a ton of your videos, and have had the deck for a while, but had almost never played it. When you said in one of your videos you felt your Geist deck felt around tier 1.5, I kind of rolled my eyes, but then randomly at my FNM I decided to play it after owning it for a while. Crushed a cheerio's deck, a Jund deck, 8Rack, and then lost a close game 3 in the finals against Zooicide despite being mana-screwed, and realized this is a super underrated deck, and just like Jund, this just seems to have a ton of 50/50 matchups with silver-bullet sideboard cards
Geist has been an unbelievable clock, and only feels better with all these midrange and control decks appearing (Ignoring RG Tron)
Good luck with your upcoming tournaments, Nate, hopefully you keep posting the videos, it's pretty hard to find a bunch of consistent videos on dedicated decks with going through all the lines of play
The deck's crazy fun, can't wait to see what it looks like in the future
It looks kind of clunky, Doom. You got the snares and visions to be more proactive? I feel like opening hands could look like a nightmare, the 2 lingering Souls in the SB seen so random, thats really only a scary card when you know your opponent is maindecking 4 of them.
I don't know, isn't Jeskai Flash already good in a lot of these grindy games that aren't Jund/Junk? Why is your list really a better option?
I'm mulling over things, but is it possible with enough Tron hate, is this deck well positioned?
Mid-range and fair decks are going to fall off the radar soon,
the maindeck seems naturally good against infect, burn, Amulet may not really be a common thing if they don't replace a Summer Bloom with a good target, and with some sideboard tech, could think it spanks Affinity with all the removal and stony silences? If you sideboard 2 Blood Moon and 2 Crumble to dust, thats 6 huge hate cards. It really makes me wonder
I'm sorry, doom, I hope I didn't offend you, I'm just trying to wrap my head around a more airtight, common list that decks like gbx, twin, affinity, etc have
Once I play more with the WUr build I'll try the black splash out
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Seriously, what gives?
Went through your new list and your article on the sideboard plan
You said you wen't something like 4-4 in the tournament, do you feel that the new changes may have been a contribution to that? Cutting the snares, the remands, are the Grim's and the other changes worth it? Answering something like a Goyf, for 1 mana is a pretty big deal, it also answers the typical counter-spell
Would you still absolutely recommend the same list going to a big tournament, or did you get unlucky with pairings? How do you feel about Nahiri and playing a Jeskai deck that isn't utilizing her, do you feel you're better off playing Jeskai Flash or being stubborn wanting it to work over the new Nahiri deck?
Dude, Geist hoses burn, 6 damage along with bolts, helixes and electrolyzes is brutal
Infect is more about attritioning them than racing
I get the feeling playing the long game is a massive mistake, since Gavony and tutors are going to wreck us? So, what do I cut and bring in?
As advice against RG Titan, just jam Geist. The deck only runs about 3 Angers/Pyroclasms in the side, you aren't going to beat them in the long game. Stick a Geist, hope the don't burn it, counter what you can, and burn them out. You can survive one Titan coming down and fetching 2x Valakut, if a second Titan resolves, it's just over for you. Prismatic omen makes it so they can fetch 4 Valakuts and 2 lands for 60 something damage. Forget trying to be all conservative with your life, Geist is a scary clock if I don't have an Anger or Obstinate Baloth to drop
Definitely keep posting them. I based my deck off of the recent Nick Hansen list, the 3 serum visions really helps smooth out the deck without feeling too intrusive or dead, I think before the Eldrazi Winter people weren't really running it, and the deck felt a little clunkier and a little less easy on card advantage
I think a great example of watching his video was him playing Kiki-Chord, he wins game 1, tries to take the slower route with Keranos, Elspeth, boardwipes, etc. He gets overwhelmed because Kiki-Chord just has a way better late game, it helped me out recalling that and just aiming to go for the quick tempo-burn out plan, my initial reaction would have been to go late game control. Ended up winning that matchup
I'm still mainly a Jund player, but I miss Splinter Twin and miss the tempo plan and playing my stuff on my opponent's turn (outside of slamming a Geist and just spot removing threats they put down 1 at a time).
Geist has been an unbelievable clock, and only feels better with all these midrange and control decks appearing (Ignoring RG Tron)
Good luck with your upcoming tournaments, Nate, hopefully you keep posting the videos, it's pretty hard to find a bunch of consistent videos on dedicated decks with going through all the lines of play
The deck's crazy fun, can't wait to see what it looks like in the future
I don't know, isn't Jeskai Flash already good in a lot of these grindy games that aren't Jund/Junk? Why is your list really a better option?
Mid-range and fair decks are going to fall off the radar soon,
the maindeck seems naturally good against infect, burn, Amulet may not really be a common thing if they don't replace a Summer Bloom with a good target, and with some sideboard tech, could think it spanks Affinity with all the removal and stony silences? If you sideboard 2 Blood Moon and 2 Crumble to dust, thats 6 huge hate cards. It really makes me wonder
Does this deck have a chance to go up?
It isn't winning enough, nor taking 10 minute turns that it'll be likely
Once I play more with the WUr build I'll try the black splash out