About Grip of Chaos, this is an awesome card... but it's unplayable. At least for me. Multiplayer game with 77 permanents and Chaos Warp being casted... that's just too complicated. There is a lot of cards in EDH that target any permanent and that makes it really hard to play on paper. And you can't just say something like... ok, we are 4 players, so let's roll the dice to decide which player it will be, and then roll another one to choose one of his 15 permanents. It doesn't work that way. Because a player with less permanents would be penalized if you do it this way. So you really have to number every of the 77 permanents from 1 to 77 and take your phone app or whatever to pick a random number. It's just long. It's like Radiate and Thieves' Auction. Really good chaos cards that tend to be hard to play IRL. I used to play every of these cards on MTGO however.
I know I've been out of the loop for a while, but I was backtracking to catch up and saw this...
Thou hast forgot the first tenant of the church: A win by pure chaos, by submitting your opponents to the most grueling stack, by fraying that last nerve that serves as the safety line to your opponent falling over the edge and scooping because of the time it takes to sort out the havoc you're wreaking... is the is the most savory of all.
If you can't sift through the 100+ Warp World triggers with GoC out then you need to recommit yourself to the faith.
I'm just happy to see Norin back on the first page... was getting back there... way back there.
Nothing terribly cool spoiled in the new core set aside from the Aggressive Mining and only for possible trade away shenanigans, but it's meh before that.
Been a rough go for Norin at me table. My friend has been running Marath and it's just been impossible to keep the Wary one alive...
The inspired ability isn't hard to get in a multiplayer game - swing at the guy who is open, or tap down with Tangle Wire or Springleaf Drum.
The two big parts of his ability make me smile.
"put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of another target creature" - Even legends.
"it's an enchantment in addition to its other types" - Are you suggesting Confusion in the Ranks can more easily steal other enchantments now, too?
Sadly it's not 2 power or a goblin, but I think it might be enough to find it's way into the list.
Also a good Kiki-Jiki replacement if you can't afford it.
Wow... I can't believe I donked on the Spiritbinder... wasn't even paying attention to it... saw "Minotaur" and kept going.
My faith has been shown it's weakness. Excuse me while I flagellate myself (actually I'll run away when go to strike myself, as it is custom of the ancient Nortinthodox ways).
Nothing for my own list at least, but that was to be expected. Actually, no cards from this set will make any of my regular EDH deck, why Kiora's Follower will probably be my new PDH general, so that's at least one card worth that set lol.
I see a few things for some of mine, but nothing for Norin. Animar is getting a few new test cards, for sure.
Archetype of Aggression seems like a solid card.
Most of the time I get beaten down by tramplers and for only three mana my 1/1's can block everything all day long.
The Satyr Nyx-Smith seems interesting, especially with the drum that's already present in our deck. It makes an extra dink to trade off... But isn't tutorable and is kinda slow...
Not much at Norin's disposal in BNG, it would seem.
That's what I was thinking but today I used crucible to keep returning Haunted Fengraf to get back Zealous Conscripts to get the Kiki-Jiki infinite combo to take out the player who almost had the game on lock and even get the win.
There's always an outlier that makes you want to keep the card, but how many times have you used that play to win? If this is the first of many games (games you've seen Crucible as a dead draw, or underwhelming) then the one time shouldn't make the decision for you.
Grats on the beast play though. Feels good making a sh'load of that craft lady in the tri-cone hat. Feels real good.
Exactly what I'm trying to figure out... I really don't want to cut Trading Post Swiss-Army-Knife is just too versatile, and we need the artifact recursion imo.
Helm might go at last, though it has always performed great in any situation I can recall right now.
I'm actually quite tempted to ditch Crucible of Worlds, because often enough it has been underwhelming... (got to admit, I don't play all the Fetchlands)
I'd probably cut that too, I'm not running Gaka's fetchland suite, and I'm never abusing Wasteland effects... The resonator for a crucible seems fair.
From Sheldon's recent article on StarCity about understanding the Metagame:
If you're playing some kind of Storm deck and Bob loves playing Rule of Law, you're going to have to pack some enchantment removal. If you want to battle for lots of combat damage and Bob loves playing Constant Mists / Crucible of Worlds, you'll either want a counterspell for that Constant Mists or a Relic Crush for that Crucible. If Bob has only one deck, I'm not suggesting building the beat-only-Bob deck, but playing cards that react well to the cards he plays is reasonable protection. That said, packing Chill because you're tired of his (Bob's) shenanigans with Norin the Wary is absolutely a metagame choice.
The underlined portion is my main focus (the article is fantastic in it's own right) for two reasons:
Always fun to see "tired of", "shenanigans", and "Norin" in a single sentence. Bob's doing it right.
and
I'd take it as a compliment if somebody ran out Chill on Norin. I doubt it'd slow us down, too much.
I know I've been out of the loop for a while, but I was backtracking to catch up and saw this...
Thou hast forgot the first tenant of the church: A win by pure chaos, by submitting your opponents to the most grueling stack, by fraying that last nerve that serves as the safety line to your opponent falling over the edge and scooping because of the time it takes to sort out the havoc you're wreaking... is the is the most savory of all.
If you can't sift through the 100+ Warp World triggers with GoC out then you need to recommit yourself to the faith.
Tighten up your long game, breh.
See y'all in a year.
Nothing terribly cool spoiled in the new core set aside from the Aggressive Mining and only for possible trade away shenanigans, but it's meh before that.
Been a rough go for Norin at me table. My friend has been running Marath and it's just been impossible to keep the Wary one alive...
Keeping the faith, though.
Wow... I can't believe I donked on the Spiritbinder... wasn't even paying attention to it... saw "Minotaur" and kept going.
My faith has been shown it's weakness. Excuse me while I flagellate myself (actually I'll run away when go to strike myself, as it is custom of the ancient Nortinthodox ways).
I see a few things for some of mine, but nothing for Norin. Animar is getting a few new test cards, for sure.
AoA is nice... but not a goblin.
The Satyr Nyx-Smith seems interesting, especially with the drum that's already present in our deck. It makes an extra dink to trade off... But isn't tutorable and is kinda slow...
Not much at Norin's disposal in BNG, it would seem.
"Errata this!" ::zoop!::
I think you have to look at it like how honored a god must feel to be included in this deck...
<be back in a few months!>
There's always an outlier that makes you want to keep the card, but how many times have you used that play to win? If this is the first of many games (games you've seen Crucible as a dead draw, or underwhelming) then the one time shouldn't make the decision for you.
Grats on the beast play though. Feels good making a sh'load of that craft lady in the tri-cone hat. Feels real good.
Heh. For the glory of Norin.
Noringlory!
I'd probably cut that too, I'm not running Gaka's fetchland suite, and I'm never abusing Wasteland effects... The resonator for a crucible seems fair.
I don't taking out Mountains either, Gaka. I don't taking out Mountains at all.
Such theifs!
The underlined portion is my main focus (the article is fantastic in it's own right) for two reasons:
Always fun to see "tired of", "shenanigans", and "Norin" in a single sentence. Bob's doing it right.
and
I'd take it as a compliment if somebody ran out Chill on Norin. I doubt it'd slow us down, too much.