Np. After all he is my favorite dragon. There's alot of great stuff about this guy, first and foremost, he's a flyer and he allows you to get free library shuffles. So right off the bat, he's perfect to help out skillborrower get to that sensei's divining top or whatever other activated ability that is right underneath her. 3rd, He's a copycat. I've had alot of fun with both him and shapesharer. Story and flavor-wise it does make me sad that he doesn't actually have a storyline within mtg and is just an idea in form.
Well Scion is the embodiment of all five Primeval Dragons. So when they died, their essence created one dragon with a combined consciousness of all five dragon. That is Scion. So he does have a story, its just super unofficial. If you like the planar dragons you should check out some of the featured threads. Check out My Teneb list in my signature below. Cheers!!
I'm listening to Summer by Calvin Harris and this is just awesome.... I can imagine all of the alternate Primeval dragons and the creatures from my deck lounging about Reki the story teller as he tells an awesome story.
Anyway, I made an awesome deck here that utilizes Scion as the General with 7 dragons (one of this is shapesharer) with the alternate dragons and Niv-Mizzet compromising my dragons. None of the dragons are of course the main star, but with Scion, they can be the star if you choose to be.
Calvin Harris is the man. But I should feature a section on Scion since he is kind of all the Primeval Dragons combined. Thank you for sharing your list and your kind support!
Cool thread, good job! This makes me want to pull out my Intet, the Dreamer again... I've also wanted to build a Dromar, the Banisher deck for a long while, but I haven't gotten my hands on a copy.
Thank you! Dromar is hard to find in stores, you're probably going to have to resort to online shopping. Intet is a super awesome commander, I use to run her and It was an absolute beast.
A nice read, and as someone who built a deck for each of these (six of them still being commanded by said dragons)... they're fun. Flavorful, big & stompy, and don't draw a lot of hate either as they're not as super-powerful unless really built around. Well, not a lot of hate comparatively speaking... Oros is a big stompy dragon but he's no Kaalia. Treva doesn't look half as scary as seeing Rafiq on the command zone. Etc.
That said, what I have learned is that you can't really count on their abilities that much until you get to the late-late game where you can drop the dragon, give him/her haste and protection AND still have mana left for the ability. I can't count the times I've had the dragon connect but hadn't had mana for the ability, or had the dragon attack and be ready to break things with the ability only to have the dragon killed somehow. People are usually pretty fine for you having the dragon... exactly up to the point where it might look like you're able to attack them and/or fire off the ability while at it. At six mana, keeping them around is rather crucial since recasting gets too expensive quickly unless you're really ramping it up.
...but even with all their supposed downsides, I still love 'em, and at least a few of them are probably fairly permanent fixtures of their respective color combinations for my decks.
I totally agree with you! And they obviously have their downsides and are not the greatest Commanders of their respected colors. But they still are pretty awesome. Having them connect is also a challenge in itself. Teneb, the Harvester is the best in my opinion, since he is in colors that provide lots of mana and also can just get you super far in terms of advantage. Thank you for your comments and feedback!
I hope they will make some new appearance in the upcoming sets.... It's kinda obvious that Ugin or something like his spirit will be revived in Khans, but Planaar Chaos ones are just epic, and in the terms of being and edh general really great.
A colorless Elder Dragon? That'll be so dope! But yes Hopefully we'll get some more dragons in this set.
Every once in a while i read this article.. I like making dragon decks, and this one just gives me additional will to make them
Thank You! That means so much that you love reading this I'm sorry I haven't updated the list lately. School has been killing me. But, I have read a article from Wizards finally giving more information about the Dragons from Planar Chaos. I'll upload a link as soon as I can.
I updated a lot of the info on the list. Khans of Tarkir may prove to be a super exciting set, since it is wedge based and there are rumors of a new set of Wedge dragons. I may consider including those if that is the case.
Thank you all for your input and suggestions!! I will work on the thread soon and add everyone's suggestions. Katherine, I'd love to work with you on the story part! PM me and let's figure something out.
I will add a section on the Scion of the Ur-Dragon in a bit. I believe there is even a primer running around here.
I am dredging an old thread I wrote a while ago, simply because I felt like this information should be put out there. I wanted to make this community based, so have lots of input and feature threads from other posters and community members. The MTG community is such a great pool of people and with threads like this, bringing everyone together for lore and love of the same game really is why I enjoy playing. So I will work on this regularly. Thank you all and Enjoy!
Interesting read, and for sure it's offered me insight on the design purposes of the Chaos Primevals. I always considered the Chaos separate, if not 'lost' primevals aside from the originals.
I'm glad you enjoyed it I feel that the only reason people don't like them is because they have no story line. At least, none that Wizards wrote. But that's why I like them, because they make room for your own imagination and your own stories about them (:
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
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Well Scion is the embodiment of all five Primeval Dragons. So when they died, their essence created one dragon with a combined consciousness of all five dragon. That is Scion. So he does have a story, its just super unofficial. If you like the planar dragons you should check out some of the featured threads. Check out My Teneb list in my signature below. Cheers!!
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Calvin Harris is the man. But I should feature a section on Scion since he is kind of all the Primeval Dragons combined. Thank you for sharing your list and your kind support!
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Thank you! Dromar is hard to find in stores, you're probably going to have to resort to online shopping. Intet is a super awesome commander, I use to run her and It was an absolute beast.
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I totally agree with you! And they obviously have their downsides and are not the greatest Commanders of their respected colors. But they still are pretty awesome. Having them connect is also a challenge in itself. Teneb, the Harvester is the best in my opinion, since he is in colors that provide lots of mana and also can just get you super far in terms of advantage. Thank you for your comments and feedback!
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A colorless Elder Dragon? That'll be so dope! But yes Hopefully we'll get some more dragons in this set.
Any sort of fan fiction will do. That or fan art, altered cards, anything!
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People need to submit stuff, whether its art or stories. I need the community gives all post there. But I'll try posting things there
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Thank You! That means so much that you love reading this I'm sorry I haven't updated the list lately. School has been killing me. But, I have read a article from Wizards finally giving more information about the Dragons from Planar Chaos. I'll upload a link as soon as I can.
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I will add a section on the Scion of the Ur-Dragon in a bit. I believe there is even a primer running around here.
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Why thank you! Check back tomorrow evening. I'm going to update this thread and give it a full make over.
Btw, if anyone has any decklists with any of these dragons, you can comment or PM me a link and I'll feature you in the thread!
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I'm glad you enjoyed it I feel that the only reason people don't like them is because they have no story line. At least, none that Wizards wrote. But that's why I like them, because they make room for your own imagination and your own stories about them (:
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