Most of that has to do with less than BORDERLINE getting unformated. If you wanna break it down by color and message Al, it can be included. It is very time e consuming so it has been pushed off
Here are the cards organized more or less along the same lines as the project (I'm not sure how conspiracies with color identities are organized). Lands show up here as 'Colorless cc0'.
Note that powered cubes like Al's, Humphrey's, etc. run these cards: Mob, Ainok Survivalist, Yavimaya Enchantress, Goblin War Party, Wall of Runes, Novellamental, Cold-Water Snapper, Ordinary Pony, Wall of One Thousand Cuts.
It looks like Al's account was deleted, which deleted all his posts here. I posted the original ratings and reviews in this thread. (One of my posts with the remaining reviews is still marked as spam, but it seems like the mods eventually check such posts and unmark them as spam, so hopefully it will be visible soon.) Anyhow, you can look there for the original ratings and reviews.
If anyone (or multiple people) wants to take responsibility for this project, I can give you edit access to the spreadsheet that I made with all the ratings and reviews (or you can make a copy). I'm not interested in taking responsibility – just sharing in case it helps anyone who does.
Thanks for going deeper on this. In the past, regular cubes had dedicated number-crunching people who could set this up as its own thread with mod support. Usually they solicited participation from forum members first - that might help if you're casting about for more 360 cubes. There's several cubers like Usman, Marl or Izor who probably have 360s lying around somewhere, plus possible lurkers who could donate their lists to such a project
Thanks I don't think I'll go deeper on this project, as I'm mainly using these cubes to inform my own cube, and 8 is about enough. I already have Usman's cube; Izor's cube isn't available in text format; and since Marl has responded to my earlier posts, I assume he would have shared his cube
When I did a personal project a few years ago similar to think I just looked in recent threads and noted who had posted. Almost everybody links to their cube tutor so it is pretty straightforward.
I don't want to include cubes with more than 360 cards, as I'm trying to answer "which cards are staple in 360 cubes?". For example, if I analyzed twenty 450 cubes and five 360 cubes, I'd likely get a lot of cards that are staple in 450 but not in 360.
What I meant about Online Onlys is that since some people exclude them their raw counts probably won't correspond to their ratings in cases where they are cubeable or even staple (say, Elephant Guide).
Ah, gotcha. The only Staple cards that are online only are:
I'd be happy to add more cubes to the analysis; however, the average CubeTutor 360 Pauper has these 4 Bad cards and 47 Borderline cards, so I want to be picky – i.e. limiting it to cubes that are more or less agreed to be "powered", that are regularly drafted and updated, etc. If folks know of any, let me know!
it might be worth cross referencing against a list of mtgo only commons as quite a few cubers don't count them as common
I filtered MTGJSON for common cards (used by CuteTutor, Scryfall, etc.), and only found these that were online only (and not already rated). I'm not sure if down-shifted promos are considered pauper, though:
I had a look at the list of cubes in the Cube Lists thread, and picked the cubes that had been updated in 2018, that had 360 cards, and that were (at least self-described as being) "powered". Those cubes are:
Hi folks, first, just want to say: This project has been incredibly useful in building my cube – thanks to everyone who's contributed!
I used a script to pull the ratings into a spreadsheet. (I did this for my own use, and then shared the spreadsheet with Al_Z_Heimer first, in case he wants to use it to help maintain this project – if not, I'll make some edits and share it here.)
I then compared the list of rated cards to a list of all cards that were printed at common before 2018 (as you know, some sets from 2018 haven't yet been rated, so I haven't included them, see below). So, here are the 47 cards that were printed at common before 2018, that are missing from the project (16 from Homelands, including Merchant Scroll):
Growth Cycle is listed, but without a review. There's a missing slash between Thriving Heath and Thriving Isle.
Some new typos:
Knight of the Deep -> Knight of the Keep
Fortifying Postions -> Fortifying Provisions
Spontanous Flight -> Spontaneous Flight
Phasing Dolphin -> Phase Dolphin
Tefer's Protege - >Teferi's Protege
Locthwhain Paladin -> Locthwain Paladin
Rune-Scarred Berserker -> Rage-Scarred Berserver
Alchemist's Ghift -> Alchemist's Gift
Lash of Throns -> Lash of Thorns
Waselback Redcap -> Weaselback Redcap
Seven Dwarfs -> Seven Dwarves
Hoardeling Outburst -> Hordeling Outburst
Crystal Slippers -> Crystal Slipper
Rubmling Rockslide -> Rumbling Rockslide
Elves of the Deep Shadow -> Elves of Deep Shadow
Garrenbrig Squire -> Garenbrig Squire
Garrenbrig Carver -> Garenbrig Carver
Garrenbrig Paladin -> Garenbrig Paladin
Ornery Dilophsaur -> Ornery Dilophosaur
Rampaging Redhorn -> Rampaging Rendhorn
Flycatcher -> Flycatcher Giraffid
Fell the Phesant -> Fell the Pheasant
Inspiring Awe -> Inspire Awe
Loctwhain Gargoyle -> Locthwain Gargoyle
Springjlaw Trap -> Springjaw Trap
Arcane Signer -> Arcane Signet
Thaumaturge's Familar -> Thaumaturge's Familiar
Singalpost Scarecrow -> Signpost Scarecrow
Mystic Sacntuary -> Mystic Sanctuary
Of typos reported earlier, these remain https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/the-cube-forum/pauper-peasant-discussion/193961-the-evaluate-everything-project?comment=1086 :
Chain-Whip Cyclops -> Chainwhip Cyclops
Daggerssil Aeronaut -> Daggersail Aeronaut
Elvish Rejuvinator -> Elvish Rejuvenator
[Feraal Maaka -> Feral Maaka
Ghitu Journeyman -> Ghitu Journeymage
Goblina Assailant -> Goblin Assailant
Gore-clan Wrecker -> Ghor-Clan Wrecker
Gravatic Punch -> Gravitic Punch
Honor the God-Pharoah -> Honor the God-Pharaoh
Kargan Dragonriders -> Kargan Dragonrider
Kraul Forager -> Kraul Foragers
Lavakin Brawlers -> Lavakin Brawler
Maximize Flight -> Maximize Altitude (!)
Nahira's Stoneblades -> Nahiri's Stoneblades
Piercestrider -> Pierce Strider
Pyromatic Pilgrim -> Pyromantic Pilgrim
Samut's Spirit -> Samut's Sprint
Talons of Wirewood -> Talons of Wildwood
Viviaen's Grizzly -> Vivien's Grizzly
Here are the cards organized more or less along the same lines as the project (I'm not sure how conspiracies with color identities are organized). Lands show up here as 'Colorless cc0'.
Note that powered cubes like Al's, Humphrey's, etc. run these cards: Mob, Ainok Survivalist, Yavimaya Enchantress, Goblin War Party, Wall of Runes, Novellamental, Cold-Water Snapper, Ordinary Pony, Wall of One Thousand Cuts.
Azra Bladseeker -> Azra Bladeseeker
Bogardan Dragknheart -> Bogardan Dragonheart
Candlelit Vigil -> Candlelight Vigil
Chain-Whip Cyclops -> Chainwhip Cyclops
Daggerssil Aeronaut -> Daggersail Aeronaut
Elvish Rejuvinator -> Elvish Rejuvenator
Feraal Maaka -> Feral Maaka
Ghitu Journeyman -> Ghitu Journeymage
Goblina Assailant -> Goblin Assailant
Gore-Clan Wrecker -> Ghor-Clan Wrecker
Gravatic Punch -> Gravitic Punch
Hoardling Outburst -> Hordeling Outburst
Honor the God-Pharoah -> Honor the God-Pharaoh
Kargan Dragonriders -> Kargan Dragonrider
Kraul Forager -> Kraul Foragers
Lavakin Brawlers -> Lavakin Brawler
Maximum Velocity -> Maximize Velocity
Maximize Flight -> Maximize Altitude (!)
Nahira's Stoneblades -> Nahiri's Stoneblades
Onery Goblin -> Ornery Goblin
Peacestrider -> Peace Strider
Piercestrider -> Pierce Strider
Pyromatic Pilgrim -> Pyromantic Pilgrim
Samut's Spirit -> Samut's Sprint
Talons of Wirewood -> Talons of Wildwood
Viviaen's Grizzly -> Vivien's Grizzly
I had made a backup here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13HntsRHrC5Ubl6_E0FG_pZlD3lzaafwsINA1E1bLf6Q/edit#gid=0
I think anyone can make a copy of that spreadsheet if they want.
If anyone (or multiple people) wants to take responsibility for this project, I can give you edit access to the spreadsheet that I made with all the ratings and reviews (or you can make a copy). I'm not interested in taking responsibility – just sharing in case it helps anyone who does.
Thanks
- Zephyr Scarlet http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/11192 is explicitly powered
- Prince_Reyson http://www.cubetutor.com/cubeblog/648 from Al's list looks powered, but isn't explicit
- MonkRealist http://www.cubetutor.com/cubeblog/7023 looks a bit less powered, but isn't explicit either way (Tar Pit Warrior, Lim-Dûl's High Guard, Golgari Brownscale, Shambling Shell, Frantic Search, etc.)
I'll update my above post with these cubes.I don't want to include cubes with more than 360 cards, as I'm trying to answer "which cards are staple in 360 cubes?". For example, if I analyzed twenty 450 cubes and five 360 cubes, I'd likely get a lot of cards that are staple in 450 but not in 360.
- Battle Screech
- Beetleback Chief
- Chainer's Edict
- Predatory Nightstalker
I've updated my earlier post.I filtered MTGJSON for common cards (used by CuteTutor, Scryfall, etc.), and only found these that were online only (and not already rated). I'm not sure if down-shifted promos are considered pauper, though:
I had a look at the list of cubes in the Cube Lists thread, and picked the cubes that had been updated in 2018, that had 360 cards, and that were (at least self-described as being) "powered". Those cubes are:
- Humphrey: http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/4632
- Night_Hydra: http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/15538
- NoobinCube: http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/33113
- Al_Z_Heimer: http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/35213
- Usman: http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/10790(not listed above)
- Zephyr Scarlet: http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/11192 (not listed above)
- Prince_Reyson: http://www.cubetutor.com/cubeblog/648 (not explicitly powered)
- MonkRealist: http://www.cubetutor.com/cubeblog/7023 (not listed above, not explicitly powered)
I compared the cubes to the 188 Staple cards. Out of these cubes:Not included in any (3):
- Abomination of Gudul
- Abzan Guide
- Harvest Gwyllion
Only included in 2 i.e. 25% (1):- Thought Courier
Only included in 4 i.e. 50% (10):- Ambuscade
- Bonds of Faith
- Branching Bolt
- Curse of Chains
- Strangling Soot
- Tithe Drinker
- Azorius Signet
- Dimir Signet
- Izzet Signet
- Orzhov Signet
Only included in 5 i.e. 62.5% (24):Included in all (5):
- Evincar's Justice
- Goblin Heelcutter
- Ninja of the Deep Hours
- Preordain
- Thrill-Kill Assassin
Included in all but one i.e. 87.5% (15):- Beetleform Mage
- Burning-Tree Emissary
- Cartouche of Strength
- Daring Skyjek
- Kor Sanctifiers
- Peema Outrider
- Prismatic Strands
- Sandsteppe Outcast
- Sylvok Lifestaff
- Tandem Lookout
- Thorn of the Black Rose
- Triplicate Spirits
- Viridian Longbow
- Vulturous Aven
- Withdraw
Included in all but 2 i.e. 75% (26):I used a script to pull the ratings into a spreadsheet. (I did this for my own use, and then shared the spreadsheet with Al_Z_Heimer first, in case he wants to use it to help maintain this project – if not, I'll make some edits and share it here.)
I then compared the list of rated cards to a list of all cards that were printed at common before 2018 (as you know, some sets from 2018 haven't yet been rated, so I haven't included them, see below). So, here are the 47 cards that were printed at common before 2018, that are missing from the project (16 from Homelands, including Merchant Scroll):
Cursed Rack (Renaissance)As I understand, the following sets from 2018 haven't yet been rated, so they have a high number of unrated commons (not listed above):