You are a liability to the town. Why would you derail the EtR wagon so close to a deadline? I was going to try to convince people to get on it later today.
I just don't want you in the game any more. I'm usually against lynching town, but I'll make an exception.
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PRs:
D_V (repl. elijah) > switched tom and RESilver
KamikazeArchon > slimed DV
Tubba Fett > targeted vezok, delayed
vezokpiraka > searched/slimed Silver, switched to tom
zdtsd (repl. Fuwa) > cocooned tom, switched to Silver
Highroller, Vaimes, tomsloger > Ghostbuster, no Night action
1. D_V (repl. elijah) - Town due to role and play. I'm fairly confident that DV is not scum this game and would take all the flack for it if I'm wrong.
2. EtR - Scum. Lurks int he background and only comes out with dubious reads.
3. Highroller - Town due to being a ghostbuster and nailing Rodemy and overall play.
4. KamikazeArchon - Neutral due to role. I'm reasonably certain he isn't scum, but I can't read KA for *****.
5. Rumanshi - Town, but way too lurky. I'm seeing all the signs for town ruma, but with his lurking it's hard to be certain.
6. Silvercrys3467 (repl. RE1031) - Scum and needs death. RE was pretty townie day 1, but the way he disappeared and the way silvercrys is playing makes me think this slot is demoralised scum.
7. tomsloger - Town due to ghostbuster and play. This is my shakiest town read. I could see this being scum tom, but nothing grabs me.
8. Tubba Fett - Town due to play. I've seen Tubba as town and this is a really typical play for him. His coming out with his role when targetting KA is a really strong point that shouldn't be forgotten.
9. Vaimes - Town due to ghostbuster and finally coming out to play. I wasn't convinced up until his last string of good posts, but that puts him firmly in the town category.
10. vezokpiraka - Town cause I know my role.
11. zdtsd (repl. Fuwa) - Town due to Fuwa's readlist that is almost what I'm at right now. Either I'm completely wrong and most of my reads or that was a town post.
So I'm willing to lynch EtR or Silvercrys today.
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I'm really trying to not deathlock into it must be Tom because I'm confused right now.
I think Vaimes might be right though as well, and I want to see more from silver.
Is Silver ETR the team?
I'm pretty sure you've thrown a scum team out with everyone in the game at this point. You've had 3 different reads on me today.
Both me and DV think you are scum and the only reason we aren't pushing it further is because the rest of players think you are really town. I'm not seeing what they are seeing, but I'll respect their opinion and push in another place. I'm not sure where you think DV has shown that he thinks you are town or even flipflopping for that matter.
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Damn that Fuwa readlist is on point. The first 9 reads are all town in my opinion. I really doubt that scum makes that post before everythinf happened.
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Zdt what you think of vez if dv were to flip town?
I think vez would be a lot more likely to be town if D_V flips town; a decent part of the SR I have for vezok is interactions with D_V.
But D_V flipping town is actually starting to look more likely.
Riku's vote on D_V makes me think D_V is town and Riku is trying to get a hang, but I am unsure. I seem to have had a pretty big case of confirmation bias though; looking back, D_V is scummy, but not so much as Riku or silver. Vote Rumanshi.
Why would DV flipping town make me more likely town? From a townie perspective, it makes to sense to put your neck out for other townies unless you have confirmation, because if they flip scum you get put under a lot of pressure. Meanwhile doing the same as scum links you to a town person so that when you die, they get under pressure.
Dv alignment has no correlation to my alignment. Even if DV flips scum, that doesn't make me more probable scum. It would make no sense to try to defend my buddy who is actively trying to get himself lynched when an ability that would reveal our former buddy's role is about to go off because of him.
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@tom and vaimes: Can you put your heart into it and try to get someone lynched? I don't want another no lynch.
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Zdts is like 90% scum
>Role isnt likely as claimed, probable protection from ghostbuster kills, possible the delayer with the marshmallow cocoon flavor
>Target n1 doesnt make sense. Fuwa top townreads grape and vaimes.
>Freely claiming targets makes zero sense from any perspective except trying town read. And just a lot of the way hes dribbled out the full claim reeks of "but wait theres more"
>position on rod wagon, just as it became clear that was happening basically. And following what looks like a super awkward distancing attempt and no vote til he got called out on it.
>also spent several posts trying to connect people to rod while not *actually* talking about rod himself
>zdt going all in on dv. Circular reasoning since best point for dv town is zdt being scum but like man look at it in that world and tell me its not scummy af
I kinda agree with all your points and I'm down to lynch ztd as I was yesterday.
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Damn guys. Can we tone it down with the insults please? This is a game. No need to get so heated. Nobody is incompetent or stupid. We are playing this to escape from the real world and I'm not ok with petty insults. You can explain your points without attacking people.
I understand it's a high stress situation, but I think it can be solved by more peaceful means. I'll frankly replace out if the name throwing continues.
Now onto game stuff.
@highroller: you are trying to pin the blame of terry's death when you were the one pushing it. It wasn't a hammer vote, it was a discussion about who is willing to defend terry and nobody got up to the task. Dv is certainly not the last scum so you can use your powers to find the other people in the scum team.
@DV: frankly I think you should ignore highroller and focus on convincing other people to join the silvercrys wagon. The discussion is going nowhere and clogging the thread.
@tom and vaimes: Can you put your heart into it and try to get someone lynched? I don't want another no lynch.
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Can we not lynch DV? I am 99% sure that he will flip town and he is also the only thing breathing life into the game. Like even if he is scum I'd rather have him alive to have more content than the usual.
I'm not one to do town cases, but I might if this wagon doesn't get dismantled.
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@Ka: You can agree that DV is in another category from all those other people. I put myself in the same category as I defended DV a lot and had some interactions and I understand if someone believes we are scum together. The usual suspects are the lurkers or ztd who is the sights of almost everyone. A ztd, silver or Ruma lynch will probably pass much more easily than a lynch on DV yet EtR has him as scum without putting much work into it. It's simply not a believable read.
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You are a liability to the town. Why would you derail the EtR wagon so close to a deadline? I was going to try to convince people to get on it later today.
I just don't want you in the game any more. I'm usually against lynching town, but I'll make an exception.
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I also want blood. Dv's case is pretty compelling. I find it very unlikely to have the same reads after everything that went down.
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No and whoever brings up cults is doomed to be made fun of for the entire game. So lol Tubba, but no.
Anyway I think Ztd didn't get delayed night 1. It was just a misunderstanding from the mod. I might be wrong on this and ztd needs to clarify.
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1. D_V (repl. elijah) - Town due to role and play. I'm fairly confident that DV is not scum this game and would take all the flack for it if I'm wrong.
2. EtR - Scum. Lurks int he background and only comes out with dubious reads.
3. Highroller - Town due to being a ghostbuster and nailing Rodemy and overall play.
4. KamikazeArchon - Neutral due to role. I'm reasonably certain he isn't scum, but I can't read KA for *****.
5. Rumanshi - Town, but way too lurky. I'm seeing all the signs for town ruma, but with his lurking it's hard to be certain.
6. Silvercrys3467 (repl. RE1031) - Scum and needs death. RE was pretty townie day 1, but the way he disappeared and the way silvercrys is playing makes me think this slot is demoralised scum.
7. tomsloger - Town due to ghostbuster and play. This is my shakiest town read. I could see this being scum tom, but nothing grabs me.
8. Tubba Fett - Town due to play. I've seen Tubba as town and this is a really typical play for him. His coming out with his role when targetting KA is a really strong point that shouldn't be forgotten.
9. Vaimes - Town due to ghostbuster and finally coming out to play. I wasn't convinced up until his last string of good posts, but that puts him firmly in the town category.
10. vezokpiraka - Town cause I know my role.
11. zdtsd (repl. Fuwa) - Town due to Fuwa's readlist that is almost what I'm at right now. Either I'm completely wrong and most of my reads or that was a town post.
So I'm willing to lynch EtR or Silvercrys today.
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Both me and DV think you are scum and the only reason we aren't pushing it further is because the rest of players think you are really town. I'm not seeing what they are seeing, but I'll respect their opinion and push in another place. I'm not sure where you think DV has shown that he thinks you are town or even flipflopping for that matter.
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Damn that Fuwa readlist is on point. The first 9 reads are all town in my opinion. I really doubt that scum makes that post before everythinf happened.
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Why would DV flipping town make me more likely town? From a townie perspective, it makes to sense to put your neck out for other townies unless you have confirmation, because if they flip scum you get put under a lot of pressure. Meanwhile doing the same as scum links you to a town person so that when you die, they get under pressure.
Dv alignment has no correlation to my alignment. Even if DV flips scum, that doesn't make me more probable scum. It would make no sense to try to defend my buddy who is actively trying to get himself lynched when an ability that would reveal our former buddy's role is about to go off because of him.
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I kinda agree with all your points and I'm down to lynch ztd as I was yesterday.
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I understand it's a high stress situation, but I think it can be solved by more peaceful means. I'll frankly replace out if the name throwing continues.
Now onto game stuff.
@highroller: you are trying to pin the blame of terry's death when you were the one pushing it. It wasn't a hammer vote, it was a discussion about who is willing to defend terry and nobody got up to the task. Dv is certainly not the last scum so you can use your powers to find the other people in the scum team.
@DV: frankly I think you should ignore highroller and focus on convincing other people to join the silvercrys wagon. The discussion is going nowhere and clogging the thread.
@tom and vaimes: Can you put your heart into it and try to get someone lynched? I don't want another no lynch.
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I'm not one to do town cases, but I might if this wagon doesn't get dismantled.
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