40 is about average for edh, I run 43 in a white blue deck deck and 39 in a black green deck (it's like running 23 land and 4 birds in a 60 card deck).
I don't think his mana base was unreasonable, but he seemed to want more mana. Since he actually had drawn above average mana this game and still wanted more I think more lands was justified.
I admit I always lecture someone whenever they mana screw. This is because when I started doing it 4 out of 5 times it was because they didn't have enough lands, and 1 out of 5 times was because they were unlucky; so I kept doing it. I don't want to hear about hard luck when the deck just hasn't been built properly.
This guy ended the game over it and took it way too far.
The two mana sources I destroyed was tolarian academy (nothing wrong with destroying that thing) and a signet because i played an indrik and there were no other targets, I just wanted a 4/4.
<crash-overide> mana screw sucks
onlainari taps Forest
onlainari plays Corpse Connoisseur from Hand
crash-overide puts Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind into play from Graveyard
<onlainari> you're not mana screwed
<onlainari> i've destroyed 2 mana sources
<crash-overide> ive been sitting on 5 all game
<crash-overide> are you kidding em???
<onlainari> no i'm really not kidding you
<onlainari> you've drawn above average
<onlainari> how many lands?
<crash-overide> look at you base and mine
<onlainari> how many artifacts
<crash-overide> 2
<crash-overide> 2 artifacts
<crash-overide> my deck doesnt run on 5 mana
<crash-overide> sorry
<onlainari> you only have 2 mana artifacts?
<onlainari> how many lands?
<crash-overide> no thats all i have in play!
<onlainari> then answer the question
<crash-overide> thats a little mana screw man sorry but in this deck it is
<crash-overide> answer what question?
<onlainari> how many artifacts and lands
<onlainari> in your deck?
<onlainari> mana artifacts
<crash-overide> no offence but what does that matter?
<onlainari> you're not mana screwed if you can't build a deck properly
<onlainari> if you don't have 43 land it's your fault for not hitting 10 mana yet
<onlainari> you have 8
<onlainari> i destroyed 2 remember
<onlainari> maybe remove some spells and add lands
<crash-overide> i have 40 lands in here
<onlainari> that's reasonable
<crash-overide> i dont need to take anything out
<onlainari> if you say so
onlainari is looking its Library...
<crash-overide> wow i hope you know your coming off like a comp,lete dick
<onlainari> well
<onlainari> you were whinging to me
<crash-overide> all i said was a statement abiout my mana and thats the way i feel you dont have to get at me about it
<onlainari> yes?
<onlainari> well i don't believe it's fair to say i only won because you got mana screwed
<onlainari> i built this deck well
<crash-overide> i did say that and you havent won
<crash-overide> et
<crash-overide> now your just being an arogant dick
<crash-overide> taje easy ass
<System> Player Lost
Let me get this straight, Bob played a sorcery as though it was his turn, then went back to block the Hackblade? What an idiot!
Let me get this straight, you think that's how it went down?
Bob was more like "oh btw i had blocked the hackblade", sure he won't get away with it but his brain went a bit haywire and forgot to say he blocked the hackblade when it attacked.
His opponent was totally in the right. Vermy didn't do anything wrong in the game what he did wrong was posting the log here trying to impress us. If one person doesn't want sideboard and another does it's quite natural for them to not play each other, nothing wrong with either person.
If you take 0 damage, you TECHNICALLY got damage, just that the game sees this as no damage being dealt, which is practically the same thing. Same with the untapped lands case.
Anyway this is the humor section and I found this funny.
onlainari vs ROCCO [8/23/2009 2:59:23 PM]
0:00:00 [onlainari] <New Game: waiting for opponent>
0:00:00 [onlainari] onlainari shuffles library
0:00:00 [onlainari] <onlainari> God made me an atheist.
0:00:00 [onlainari] onlainari draws 0 cards
0:00:00 [ROCCO] ROCCO shuffles library
0:00:00 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> I am ready.
0:00:00 [ROCCO] ROCCO draws 0 cards
0:00:00 [ROCCO] <-------- New Game Started -------->
0:00:00 [ROCCO] ROCCO's Security Code: 273A79EA [Type 1.5]
0:00:00 [ROCCO] onlainari's Security Code: 34668F78 [???]
0:00:00 [ROCCO] It is now turn 1 (onlainari)
0:00:00 [ROCCO] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:01 [onlainari] <onlainari> hi
0:00:04 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> HI
0:00:04 [onlainari] onlainari rolled a 16, using a 20 sided die
0:00:05 [ROCCO] ROCCO shuffles library
0:00:06 [ROCCO] ROCCO shuffles library
0:00:07 [ROCCO] ROCCO rolled a 20, using a 20 sided die
0:00:09 [onlainari] onlainari draws 7 cards
0:00:10 [ROCCO] ROCCO draws 7 cards
0:00:15 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Swamp from Hand
0:00:22 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Dark Ritual from Hand
0:00:23 [ROCCO] ROCCO taps Swamp
0:00:25 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Hollow Specter from Hand
0:00:27 [ROCCO] ROCCO puts Dark Ritual to Graveyard from Play
0:00:28 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> End my turn
0:00:29 [onlainari] onlainari draws a card
0:00:30 [ROCCO] ROCCO rearranges cards in ROCCO's Hand
0:00:31 [onlainari] onlainari plays Swamp from Hand
0:00:32 [onlainari] onlainari taps Swamp
0:00:33 [onlainari] onlainari plays Thoughtseize from Hand
0:00:43 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Swamp from Hand
0:00:45 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Abyssal Specter from Hand
0:00:46 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Distress from Hand
0:00:48 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Honden of Infinite Rage from Hand
0:00:55 [onlainari] <onlainari> Thinking
0:00:58 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> ok
0:01:01 [onlainari] onlainari's life total is now 18 (-2)
0:01:02 [ROCCO] ROCCO puts Distress to Graveyard from Play
0:01:03 [onlainari] onlainari puts Thoughtseize to Graveyard from Play
0:01:05 [ROCCO] ROCCO puts Honden of Infinite Rage to Hand from Play
0:01:06 [ROCCO] ROCCO puts Swamp to Hand from Play
0:01:06 [ROCCO] ROCCO puts Abyssal Specter to Hand from Play
0:01:07 [onlainari] <onlainari> End my turn
0:01:09 [ROCCO] ROCCO untaps his/her permanents
0:01:09 [ROCCO] ROCCO draws a card
0:01:13 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Swamp from Hand
0:01:20 [ROCCO] ROCCO taps Swamp
0:01:22 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Dark Ritual from Hand
0:01:24 [ROCCO] ROCCO taps Swamp
0:01:26 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Abyssal Specter from Hand
0:01:26 [ROCCO] ROCCO taps Hollow Specter
0:01:28 [onlainari] onlainari's life total is now 16 (-2)
0:01:29 [ROCCO] ROCCO puts Dark Ritual to Graveyard from Play
0:01:31 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> End my turn
0:01:32 [onlainari] onlainari untaps his/her permanents
0:01:33 [onlainari] onlainari draws a card
0:01:35 [onlainari] onlainari plays Swamp from Hand
0:01:36 [onlainari] onlainari taps Swamp
0:01:36 [onlainari] onlainari taps Swamp
0:01:37 [onlainari] onlainari plays Grim Monolith from Hand
0:01:39 [onlainari] <onlainari> End my turn
0:01:51 [ROCCO] ROCCO untaps his/her permanents
0:01:52 [ROCCO] ROCCO draws a card
0:01:55 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Swamp from Hand
0:01:58 [ROCCO] ROCCO taps Hollow Specter
0:01:59 [ROCCO] ROCCO taps Abyssal Specter
0:02:02 [onlainari] onlainari's life total is now 12 (-4)
0:02:06 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> End my turn
0:02:12 [onlainari] onlainari discards Contamination
0:02:13 [onlainari] onlainari untaps his/her permanents
0:02:14 [onlainari] onlainari draws a card
0:02:17 [onlainari] onlainari plays Swamp from Hand
0:02:18 [onlainari] onlainari taps Swamp
0:02:18 [onlainari] onlainari taps Swamp
0:02:18 [onlainari] onlainari taps Grim Monolith
0:02:18 [onlainari] onlainari taps Swamp
0:02:20 [onlainari] onlainari plays Dread from Hand
0:02:22 [onlainari] <onlainari> End my turn
0:02:32 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> Did u discarded?
0:02:38 [onlainari] <onlainari> yes did you see?
0:02:42 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> ok
0:02:48 [ROCCO] ROCCO untaps his/her permanents
0:02:49 [ROCCO] ROCCO draws a card
0:02:51 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Swamp from Hand
0:03:06 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> End my turn
0:03:08 [onlainari] onlainari untaps his/her permanents
0:03:09 [onlainari] onlainari draws a card
0:03:13 [onlainari] onlainari plays Swamp from Hand
0:03:14 [onlainari] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:03:14 [onlainari] onlainari taps Dread
0:03:15 [ROCCO] onlainari taps Dread
0:03:35 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> Dude im sorry u to rude, dont play with noobs, anieay I won, i have the mole
0:03:39 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
Onlainari, you really weren't any better than the people you played against. You may have been right about rules, but you were really being a dick.
I'm going to have to disagree, the mesmeric orb game I was patient at first however if you read it the guy was simply not capable of normal communication. I had done everything possible to show him he was wrong and he wouldn't agree.
And I can't see me doing anything wrong in the other two games. Particularly the third game, what could I have done instead? You're being unreasonable.
<onlainari> mill 8
<MMMMMMMMMM> there lands not perements
<MMMMMMMMMM> read the rules
<onlainari> oh
<onlainari> i thought lands are permanents
<onlainari> what are permanents?
<MMMMMMMMMM> nope prements are the cardson the field
<onlainari> 110.1. A permanent is a card or token on the battlefield. A permanent remains on the battlefield indefinitely. A card or token becomes a permanent as it enters the battlefield and it stops being a permanent as it’s moved to another zone by an effect or rule.
<onlainari> lands are on the battlefield
<onlainari> 110.4. There are five permanent types: artifact, creature, enchantment, land, and planeswalker.
<onlainari> mill 8
<MMMMMMMMMM> no
<MMMMMMMMMM> ur wrong
<onlainari> you asked me to read the rules
<onlainari> those are the rules
<MMMMMMMMMM> so
<onlainari> wow you're pretty dumb
<MMMMMMMMMM> ur gay
<onlainari> the rules say lands are permanents
<onlainari> cry baby
<MMMMMMMMMM> no way i been playing this game for five years
<onlainari> yeah but since you're a ****** you don't know the rules very well
<onlainari> i just showed you the rules
<MMMMMMMMMM> oh ok well do know that ur playing with restricated cards
<MMMMMMMMMM> so whos the ****** now
<onlainari> i'm not actually playing with restricted cards
<System> Player Lost
0:00:00 [onlainari] <New Game: waiting for opponent>
0:00:00 [onlainari] onlainari shuffles library
0:00:00 [onlainari] <onlainari> God made me an atheist.
0:00:00 [onlainari] onlainari draws 0 cards
0:00:00 [edd3001] edd3001 shuffles library
0:00:00 [edd3001] <edd3001> I am ready.
0:00:00 [edd3001] edd3001 draws 0 cards
0:00:00 [edd3001] <-------- New Game Started -------->
0:00:00 [edd3001] edd3001's Security Code: 847E6567 [Type 1.5]
0:00:00 [edd3001] onlainari's Security Code: B8EF789A [Type 1]
0:00:00 [edd3001] It is now turn 1 (onlainari)
0:00:00 [edd3001] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:05 [onlainari] <onlainari> hi my deck is for a casual one on one format
0:00:05 [edd3001] <edd3001> hi
0:00:06 [edd3001] edd3001 shuffles library
0:00:07 [onlainari] onlainari rolled a 4, using a 20 sided die
0:00:07 [edd3001] edd3001 shuffles library
0:00:18 [edd3001] <edd3001> mine is extended
0:00:20 [edd3001] <edd3001> not t1 though
0:00:25 [edd3001] edd3001 shuffles library
0:00:26 [edd3001] edd3001 shuffles library
0:00:28 [edd3001] edd3001 shuffles library
0:00:28 [onlainari] <onlainari> mine is t1
0:00:29 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:32 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:32 [onlainari] onlainari draws 7 cards
0:00:33 [edd3001] <edd3001> ok
0:00:34 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:34 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:35 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:35 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:36 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:52 [edd3001] <edd3001> roll
0:00:58 [onlainari] <onlainari> what did you roll
0:01:02 [edd3001] <edd3001> 4
0:01:04 [onlainari] <onlainari> lol
0:01:08 [onlainari] <onlainari> where does it say that?
0:01:13 [edd3001] <edd3001> up
0:01:16 [edd3001] <edd3001> lol
0:01:17 [onlainari] <onlainari> copy paste the line for me
0:01:21 [edd3001] <edd3001> ok
0:01:22 [edd3001] edd3001 rolled a 4, using a 20 sided die
0:01:24 [edd3001] <edd3001> lol
0:01:25 [edd3001] <edd3001> again
0:01:28 [onlainari] onlainari rolled a 1, using a 20 sided die
0:01:32 [edd3001] <edd3001> LOL
0:01:35 [edd3001] <edd3001> ip
0:01:35 [onlainari] <onlainari> roll
0:01:37 [onlainari] <onlainari> dude
0:01:38 [onlainari] <onlainari> roll
0:01:41 [onlainari] <onlainari> we both rolled 4
0:01:52 [edd3001] <edd3001> i rolled a 4 right now
0:01:55 [edd3001] <edd3001> before your 1
0:01:56 [onlainari] <onlainari> <edd3001> hi
0:01:58 [onlainari] <onlainari> edd3001 shuffles library
0:01:59 [edd3001] <edd3001> cant u see?
0:02:00 [onlainari] <onlainari> onlainari rolled a 4, using a 20 sided die
0:02:02 [onlainari] <onlainari> edd3001 shuffles library
0:02:13 [edd3001] edd3001 rolled a 20, using a 20 sided die
0:02:18 [edd3001] <edd3001> happy?
0:02:22 [onlainari] <onlainari> okay i'm not going to play you
0:02:24 [onlainari] <onlainari> you are annoying
0:02:26 [onlainari] <onlainari> i rolled the 4
0:02:28 [onlainari] <onlainari> not you
0:02:36 [onlainari] <onlainari> you rolled a 4 afterwards
0:02:39 [edd3001] <edd3001> ur an idiot
0:02:42 [onlainari] <onlainari> read the log
0:02:47 [edd3001] <edd3001> u got some menital problems
0:02:47 [onlainari] <onlainari> ffs
0:02:52 [edd3001] <edd3001> ******
0:02:54 [onlainari] <onlainari> omg
0:02:55 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
gong plays Natural Order from Hand
<onlainari> Ok
gong is looking its Library...
gong puts Panglacial Wurm into play from Library
gong puts Sisters of Stone Death into play from Library
gong shuffles library
gong stops looking its Library...
gong puts Natural Order to Graveyard from Play
gong puts Llanowar Elves to Graveyard from Play
<onlainari> you have to pay mana
<onlainari> for the wurm
<gong> no
<onlainari> it says you may play it, it doesn't say play it for free
<gong> read
<onlainari> it says you may play it, it doesn't say play it for free
<gong> noob
<gong> read the ruels
<onlainari> badlands entomb anger 4 panglacial wurm win
<onlainari> is not a deck
<System> Player Lost
I don't think his mana base was unreasonable, but he seemed to want more mana. Since he actually had drawn above average mana this game and still wanted more I think more lands was justified.
This guy ended the game over it and took it way too far.
The two mana sources I destroyed was tolarian academy (nothing wrong with destroying that thing) and a signet because i played an indrik and there were no other targets, I just wanted a 4/4.
onlainari taps Forest
onlainari plays Corpse Connoisseur from Hand
crash-overide puts Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind into play from Graveyard
<onlainari> you're not mana screwed
<onlainari> i've destroyed 2 mana sources
<crash-overide> ive been sitting on 5 all game
<crash-overide> are you kidding em???
<onlainari> no i'm really not kidding you
<onlainari> you've drawn above average
<onlainari> how many lands?
<crash-overide> look at you base and mine
<onlainari> how many artifacts
<crash-overide> 2
<crash-overide> 2 artifacts
<crash-overide> my deck doesnt run on 5 mana
<crash-overide> sorry
<onlainari> you only have 2 mana artifacts?
<onlainari> how many lands?
<crash-overide> no thats all i have in play!
<onlainari> then answer the question
<crash-overide> thats a little mana screw man sorry but in this deck it is
<crash-overide> answer what question?
<onlainari> how many artifacts and lands
<onlainari> in your deck?
<onlainari> mana artifacts
<crash-overide> no offence but what does that matter?
<onlainari> you're not mana screwed if you can't build a deck properly
<onlainari> if you don't have 43 land it's your fault for not hitting 10 mana yet
<onlainari> you have 8
<onlainari> i destroyed 2 remember
<onlainari> maybe remove some spells and add lands
<crash-overide> i have 40 lands in here
<onlainari> that's reasonable
<crash-overide> i dont need to take anything out
<onlainari> if you say so
onlainari is looking its Library...
<crash-overide> wow i hope you know your coming off like a comp,lete dick
<onlainari> well
<onlainari> you were whinging to me
<crash-overide> all i said was a statement abiout my mana and thats the way i feel you dont have to get at me about it
<onlainari> yes?
<onlainari> well i don't believe it's fair to say i only won because you got mana screwed
<onlainari> i built this deck well
<crash-overide> i did say that and you havent won
<crash-overide> et
<crash-overide> now your just being an arogant dick
<crash-overide> taje easy ass
<System> Player Lost
Let me get this straight, you think that's how it went down?
Bob was more like "oh btw i had blocked the hackblade", sure he won't get away with it but his brain went a bit haywire and forgot to say he blocked the hackblade when it attacked.
Okay it was elspeth in which case if the guy was tapping his creatures then adding a counter to elspeth I would complain too.
His opponent was totally in the right. Vermy didn't do anything wrong in the game what he did wrong was posting the log here trying to impress us. If one person doesn't want sideboard and another does it's quite natural for them to not play each other, nothing wrong with either person.
This isn't true either!
I don't see why the word technically has to be brought up in a rules discussion either?
I know that, you still can't untap them.
Well, you can't.
I judged at nationals without any qualifications apart from they trusted me.
0:00:00 [onlainari] <New Game: waiting for opponent>
0:00:00 [onlainari] onlainari shuffles library
0:00:00 [onlainari] <onlainari> God made me an atheist.
0:00:00 [onlainari] onlainari draws 0 cards
0:00:00 [ROCCO] ROCCO shuffles library
0:00:00 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> I am ready.
0:00:00 [ROCCO] ROCCO draws 0 cards
0:00:00 [ROCCO] <-------- New Game Started -------->
0:00:00 [ROCCO] ROCCO's Security Code: 273A79EA [Type 1.5]
0:00:00 [ROCCO] onlainari's Security Code: 34668F78 [???]
0:00:00 [ROCCO] It is now turn 1 (onlainari)
0:00:00 [ROCCO] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:01 [onlainari] <onlainari> hi
0:00:04 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> HI
0:00:04 [onlainari] onlainari rolled a 16, using a 20 sided die
0:00:05 [ROCCO] ROCCO shuffles library
0:00:06 [ROCCO] ROCCO shuffles library
0:00:07 [ROCCO] ROCCO rolled a 20, using a 20 sided die
0:00:09 [onlainari] onlainari draws 7 cards
0:00:10 [ROCCO] ROCCO draws 7 cards
0:00:15 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Swamp from Hand
0:00:22 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Dark Ritual from Hand
0:00:23 [ROCCO] ROCCO taps Swamp
0:00:25 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Hollow Specter from Hand
0:00:27 [ROCCO] ROCCO puts Dark Ritual to Graveyard from Play
0:00:28 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> End my turn
0:00:29 [onlainari] onlainari draws a card
0:00:30 [ROCCO] ROCCO rearranges cards in ROCCO's Hand
0:00:31 [onlainari] onlainari plays Swamp from Hand
0:00:32 [onlainari] onlainari taps Swamp
0:00:33 [onlainari] onlainari plays Thoughtseize from Hand
0:00:43 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Swamp from Hand
0:00:45 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Abyssal Specter from Hand
0:00:46 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Distress from Hand
0:00:48 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Honden of Infinite Rage from Hand
0:00:55 [onlainari] <onlainari> Thinking
0:00:58 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> ok
0:01:01 [onlainari] onlainari's life total is now 18 (-2)
0:01:02 [ROCCO] ROCCO puts Distress to Graveyard from Play
0:01:03 [onlainari] onlainari puts Thoughtseize to Graveyard from Play
0:01:05 [ROCCO] ROCCO puts Honden of Infinite Rage to Hand from Play
0:01:06 [ROCCO] ROCCO puts Swamp to Hand from Play
0:01:06 [ROCCO] ROCCO puts Abyssal Specter to Hand from Play
0:01:07 [onlainari] <onlainari> End my turn
0:01:09 [ROCCO] ROCCO untaps his/her permanents
0:01:09 [ROCCO] ROCCO draws a card
0:01:13 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Swamp from Hand
0:01:20 [ROCCO] ROCCO taps Swamp
0:01:22 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Dark Ritual from Hand
0:01:24 [ROCCO] ROCCO taps Swamp
0:01:26 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Abyssal Specter from Hand
0:01:26 [ROCCO] ROCCO taps Hollow Specter
0:01:28 [onlainari] onlainari's life total is now 16 (-2)
0:01:29 [ROCCO] ROCCO puts Dark Ritual to Graveyard from Play
0:01:31 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> End my turn
0:01:32 [onlainari] onlainari untaps his/her permanents
0:01:33 [onlainari] onlainari draws a card
0:01:35 [onlainari] onlainari plays Swamp from Hand
0:01:36 [onlainari] onlainari taps Swamp
0:01:36 [onlainari] onlainari taps Swamp
0:01:37 [onlainari] onlainari plays Grim Monolith from Hand
0:01:39 [onlainari] <onlainari> End my turn
0:01:51 [ROCCO] ROCCO untaps his/her permanents
0:01:52 [ROCCO] ROCCO draws a card
0:01:55 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Swamp from Hand
0:01:58 [ROCCO] ROCCO taps Hollow Specter
0:01:59 [ROCCO] ROCCO taps Abyssal Specter
0:02:02 [onlainari] onlainari's life total is now 12 (-4)
0:02:06 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> End my turn
0:02:12 [onlainari] onlainari discards Contamination
0:02:13 [onlainari] onlainari untaps his/her permanents
0:02:14 [onlainari] onlainari draws a card
0:02:17 [onlainari] onlainari plays Swamp from Hand
0:02:18 [onlainari] onlainari taps Swamp
0:02:18 [onlainari] onlainari taps Swamp
0:02:18 [onlainari] onlainari taps Grim Monolith
0:02:18 [onlainari] onlainari taps Swamp
0:02:20 [onlainari] onlainari plays Dread from Hand
0:02:22 [onlainari] <onlainari> End my turn
0:02:32 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> Did u discarded?
0:02:38 [onlainari] <onlainari> yes did you see?
0:02:42 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> ok
0:02:48 [ROCCO] ROCCO untaps his/her permanents
0:02:49 [ROCCO] ROCCO draws a card
0:02:51 [ROCCO] ROCCO plays Swamp from Hand
0:03:06 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> End my turn
0:03:08 [onlainari] onlainari untaps his/her permanents
0:03:09 [onlainari] onlainari draws a card
0:03:13 [onlainari] onlainari plays Swamp from Hand
0:03:14 [onlainari] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:03:14 [onlainari] onlainari taps Dread
0:03:15 [ROCCO] onlainari taps Dread
0:03:35 [ROCCO] <ROCCO> Dude im sorry u to rude, dont play with noobs, anieay I won, i have the mole
0:03:39 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
I'm going to have to disagree, the mesmeric orb game I was patient at first however if you read it the guy was simply not capable of normal communication. I had done everything possible to show him he was wrong and he wouldn't agree.
And I can't see me doing anything wrong in the other two games. Particularly the third game, what could I have done instead? You're being unreasonable.
<onlainari> mill 8
<MMMMMMMMMM> there lands not perements
<MMMMMMMMMM> read the rules
<onlainari> oh
<onlainari> i thought lands are permanents
<onlainari> what are permanents?
<MMMMMMMMMM> nope prements are the cardson the field
<onlainari> 110.1. A permanent is a card or token on the battlefield. A permanent remains on the battlefield indefinitely. A card or token becomes a permanent as it enters the battlefield and it stops being a permanent as it’s moved to another zone by an effect or rule.
<onlainari> lands are on the battlefield
<onlainari> 110.4. There are five permanent types: artifact, creature, enchantment, land, and planeswalker.
<onlainari> mill 8
<MMMMMMMMMM> no
<MMMMMMMMMM> ur wrong
<onlainari> you asked me to read the rules
<onlainari> those are the rules
<MMMMMMMMMM> so
<onlainari> wow you're pretty dumb
<MMMMMMMMMM> ur gay
<onlainari> the rules say lands are permanents
<onlainari> cry baby
<MMMMMMMMMM> no way i been playing this game for five years
<onlainari> yeah but since you're a ****** you don't know the rules very well
<onlainari> i just showed you the rules
<MMMMMMMMMM> oh ok well do know that ur playing with restricated cards
<MMMMMMMMMM> so whos the ****** now
<onlainari> i'm not actually playing with restricted cards
<System> Player Lost
0:00:00 [onlainari] <New Game: waiting for opponent>
0:00:00 [onlainari] onlainari shuffles library
0:00:00 [onlainari] <onlainari> God made me an atheist.
0:00:00 [onlainari] onlainari draws 0 cards
0:00:00 [edd3001] edd3001 shuffles library
0:00:00 [edd3001] <edd3001> I am ready.
0:00:00 [edd3001] edd3001 draws 0 cards
0:00:00 [edd3001] <-------- New Game Started -------->
0:00:00 [edd3001] edd3001's Security Code: 847E6567 [Type 1.5]
0:00:00 [edd3001] onlainari's Security Code: B8EF789A [Type 1]
0:00:00 [edd3001] It is now turn 1 (onlainari)
0:00:00 [edd3001] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:00:05 [onlainari] <onlainari> hi my deck is for a casual one on one format
0:00:05 [edd3001] <edd3001> hi
0:00:06 [edd3001] edd3001 shuffles library
0:00:07 [onlainari] onlainari rolled a 4, using a 20 sided die
0:00:07 [edd3001] edd3001 shuffles library
0:00:18 [edd3001] <edd3001> mine is extended
0:00:20 [edd3001] <edd3001> not t1 though
0:00:25 [edd3001] edd3001 shuffles library
0:00:26 [edd3001] edd3001 shuffles library
0:00:28 [edd3001] edd3001 shuffles library
0:00:28 [onlainari] <onlainari> mine is t1
0:00:29 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:32 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:32 [onlainari] onlainari draws 7 cards
0:00:33 [edd3001] <edd3001> ok
0:00:34 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:34 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:35 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:35 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:36 [edd3001] edd3001 draws a card
0:00:52 [edd3001] <edd3001> roll
0:00:58 [onlainari] <onlainari> what did you roll
0:01:02 [edd3001] <edd3001> 4
0:01:04 [onlainari] <onlainari> lol
0:01:08 [onlainari] <onlainari> where does it say that?
0:01:13 [edd3001] <edd3001> up
0:01:16 [edd3001] <edd3001> lol
0:01:17 [onlainari] <onlainari> copy paste the line for me
0:01:21 [edd3001] <edd3001> ok
0:01:22 [edd3001] edd3001 rolled a 4, using a 20 sided die
0:01:24 [edd3001] <edd3001> lol
0:01:25 [edd3001] <edd3001> again
0:01:28 [onlainari] onlainari rolled a 1, using a 20 sided die
0:01:32 [edd3001] <edd3001> LOL
0:01:35 [edd3001] <edd3001> ip
0:01:35 [onlainari] <onlainari> roll
0:01:37 [onlainari] <onlainari> dude
0:01:38 [onlainari] <onlainari> roll
0:01:41 [onlainari] <onlainari> we both rolled 4
0:01:52 [edd3001] <edd3001> i rolled a 4 right now
0:01:55 [edd3001] <edd3001> before your 1
0:01:56 [onlainari] <onlainari> <edd3001> hi
0:01:58 [onlainari] <onlainari> edd3001 shuffles library
0:01:59 [edd3001] <edd3001> cant u see?
0:02:00 [onlainari] <onlainari> onlainari rolled a 4, using a 20 sided die
0:02:02 [onlainari] <onlainari> edd3001 shuffles library
0:02:13 [edd3001] edd3001 rolled a 20, using a 20 sided die
0:02:18 [edd3001] <edd3001> happy?
0:02:22 [onlainari] <onlainari> okay i'm not going to play you
0:02:24 [onlainari] <onlainari> you are annoying
0:02:26 [onlainari] <onlainari> i rolled the 4
0:02:28 [onlainari] <onlainari> not you
0:02:36 [onlainari] <onlainari> you rolled a 4 afterwards
0:02:39 [edd3001] <edd3001> ur an idiot
0:02:42 [onlainari] <onlainari> read the log
0:02:47 [edd3001] <edd3001> u got some menital problems
0:02:47 [onlainari] <onlainari> ffs
0:02:52 [edd3001] <edd3001> ******
0:02:54 [onlainari] <onlainari> omg
0:02:55 [<System>] <System> Player Lost
gong plays Natural Order from Hand
<onlainari> Ok
gong is looking its Library...
gong puts Panglacial Wurm into play from Library
gong puts Sisters of Stone Death into play from Library
gong shuffles library
gong stops looking its Library...
gong puts Natural Order to Graveyard from Play
gong puts Llanowar Elves to Graveyard from Play
<onlainari> you have to pay mana
<onlainari> for the wurm
<gong> no
<onlainari> it says you may play it, it doesn't say play it for free
<gong> read
<onlainari> it says you may play it, it doesn't say play it for free
<gong> noob
<gong> read the ruels
<onlainari> badlands entomb anger 4 panglacial wurm win
<onlainari> is not a deck
<System> Player Lost