It's still weird that scum Terr targeted Azrael as GD for a reason that very obviously, perhaps moreso could have applied to font
Points that mean nothing:
-The first obvious hint that Fonti was GD was her wild jump that Azrael was clearly not after Ter's attempt at assassinating him.
-Font providing accurate results (scum!Ter) to the thread.
Points for Ter/Font:
-Ter's arguments with font had 0 fire and anger, which for Ter means they were just there to make font look good, which is why I said the tinfoil was back on.
Points against Ter/Font:
-Ter revealed she pegged Az as GD after Font mentioned that bit about GD!Az above. Like, within minutes of one another. Doesn't seem likely to have been coordinated between the two if so.
-Font came into the day with a certainty that would match having received a flip of witch!Ter, and her actions match up consistently with that idea. (Caveat: she could have been planning to claim from the beginning or at some point, and was planting the seeds already.)
And of course, there's always the possibility that Font's scum GD and lying about Ter's flip.
Skimmed up to the present real fast, but without much comprehension on all the role-related issues. Need to bone up on the setup in the OP a lot more. Was feeling pretty good about Umami, until that possible scum-slip. Want to reread that interaction next coupled with the OP info.
Sorry you're blue, but he is green with Osi and Osi is very much towncleared
Read that as "townreading him but doing different shades of green in this forum is a horrible pain in the ass and I couldn't be bothered".
Ftr, still strongly townreading him, but obviously it can't be as strong as Osie's.
Either fonti or Osi is the hunter. Az hasn't even been here. I am not hunter
Sloth, why is Tubba completely clear but Azrael is not? If Town hunter took the shot, then Tubba isn't inherently clear and it's is abundantly clear that Osi was town. I think both Tubba and Az would be equally cleared in a town hunter situation because it would mean scum assassin didn't think launching hunter would be a risk to their partner
I...never said Tubba was "completely clear"? I just think he's probably no other role except survivalist.
Thoughts on #624? You already claimed, so it wouldn't apply to you - in a way, that makes your opinion very impactful.
Congrats on the new responsibility you've been saddled with.
Yeah, but that's not scummy if Az is scum. Az was 100% the better shot.
I mean. Yes. If Az is scumm, Az is 100% the best shot. Just not following why you'd go for him instead of Umami when Umami's the one that "fell" for your bait, and your not-as-strong-as-Ter's scumlean on Az is...less solid.
Do I need sleep? Probably. Not sure what this response is regardless.
Hunter had to use their kill last night or risk losing it, so that wasn't holstered.
Of all the roles Osie could have been, Hunter and Gravedigger are the most significant ones with the gamestate being what it is. And Osie could only have been one.
I propose we claim: Each of us has to claim {"GD"/"not GD"} and {"hunter"/"not hunter"} along with their results or an explanation of their actions for a positive claim.
Unless I'm mistaken, I think this is relatively low risk:
-With their shot used, Hunter is now effectively a vanilla role.
-I'm fairly optimistic that even if this game gets to N3, we'll have a clearish picture anyway. I personally think we can probably solve things before then though. Either way, the risk of losing the GD is outweighed by the importance of the information they can give now, if alive+town.
Ultimately 1 of the 5 remaining have to own up to at least one of those two roles, and we can have some insight on that.
It should be obvious, given analysis and my read on Tubba D1, that I am not the Hunter.
I'll keep quiet on GD until we have more of a consensus. Thoughts?
I honestly didn't know it stood for lynch or lose but new it referenced end of the game. Usually don't think of the end of the game on day 2 when there are only 2 deaths so far
It's definitely come up in the previous games we've played together.
Hell, mountainous ended because of LyLo.
And it was brought up in analysis a lot in Matter.
Check my ISO. I even flat-out as you both why you would be so overt about it.
I also think that's a possible point on Fonti that she didn't press on that more. But ~rand.
Did we just ******* hammer?????
-The first obvious hint that Fonti was GD was her wild jump that Azrael was clearly not after Ter's attempt at assassinating him.
-Font providing accurate results (scum!Ter) to the thread.
Points for Ter/Font:
-Ter's arguments with font had 0 fire and anger, which for Ter means they were just there to make font look good, which is why I said the tinfoil was back on.
Points against Ter/Font:
-Ter revealed she pegged Az as GD after Font mentioned that bit about GD!Az above. Like, within minutes of one another. Doesn't seem likely to have been coordinated between the two if so.
-Font came into the day with a certainty that would match having received a flip of witch!Ter, and her actions match up consistently with that idea. (Caveat: she could have been planning to claim from the beginning or at some point, and was planting the seeds already.)
And of course, there's always the possibility that Font's scum GD and lying about Ter's flip.
Hm...now what.
Ftr, still strongly townreading him, but obviously it can't be as strong as Osie's.
Thoughts on #624?
Congrats on the new responsibility you've been saddled with.
I mean. Yes. If Az is scumm, Az is 100% the best shot. Just not following why you'd go for him instead of Umami when Umami's the one that "fell" for your bait, and your not-as-strong-as-Ter's scumlean on Az is...less solid.
Do I need sleep? Probably. Not sure what this response is regardless.
Anyway, night!
HunterOsie:
DOB, BOD, Assassin, Survivalist?; {GD, UT, Judge, Hunter}Tubba: (claimed) Survivalist
Ter?: (likely) Assassin
Azrael
Fulcrum
Umami
Hunter had to use their kill last night or risk losing it, so that wasn't holstered.
Of all the roles Osie could have been, Hunter and Gravedigger are the most significant ones with the gamestate being what it is. And Osie could only have been one.
I propose we claim: Each of us has to claim {"GD"/"not GD"} and {"hunter"/"not hunter"} along with their results or an explanation of their actions for a positive claim.
Unless I'm mistaken, I think this is relatively low risk:
-With their shot used, Hunter is now effectively a vanilla role.
-I'm fairly optimistic that even if this game gets to N3, we'll have a clearish picture anyway. I personally think we can probably solve things before then though. Either way, the risk of losing the GD is outweighed by the importance of the information they can give now, if alive+town.
Ultimately 1 of the 5 remaining have to own up to at least one of those two roles, and we can have some insight on that.
It should be obvious, given analysis and my read on Tubba D1, that I am not the Hunter.
I'll keep quiet on GD until we have more of a consensus. Thoughts?
Hell, mountainous ended because of LyLo.
And it was brought up in analysis a lot in Matter.
I also think that's a possible point on Fonti that she didn't press on that more. But ~rand.