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True, Replace Feat of Resistance with Burrenton Bombardier.
What do you think about stop talking about 'auras'/'hexproof' and include those into a 'go-tall' archetype, with +1/+1 counters and some equipment as permapump, and lifelinkers+vigilance as bodies?
I think that would give us a better comprehension of that kind of decks.
Also I really like your 'hexproof is the way in which green makes control decks' perspective. Because from that point of view go-tall is just a way to have a good finisher for control / midrange in certain colours.
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Nice Analysis Izor. I agree on +1/+1 counters lacking good payoff cards.
I would point out though, that some +1/+1 enablers (those that put +1/+1 counters on ANY creature) overlap with Auras to create what I would call go-tall archetype: Burst of Strength and Feat of Resistance are way better on Aven Fleetwing than on most other creatures.
Also Hexproof creatures, while are indeed the best payoff cards for go-tall, are not the only ones: I would argue that Double Strike, Lifelink and Vigilance make a card like Trollhide way better too (and, as a side note, allow you to play go-tall even if you don't like uninteraction).
Finally, regarding sacrifice payoff, I think that what we need the most is creatures or effects that do powerfull stuff sacrificing creatures, more than creatures that want to be sacrificed. Because as you pointed out, we have a stock of token makers that can fill that gap, and you could add a 'sacrifice X to do Y' in a swarm deck (or even in an aggro suicidal one), but you generally won't play a 'kill me to do Z' in a deck other than a dedicated sacrifice one.
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Absolutely, besides Ainok Bond-Kin there are only two non creature spells that pay off: Volt charge and Grim Affliction, and only two other creatures: Helium Squirter and Sporeback Troll. But non of them is super exciting on its own.
A longshot squad -esque creature but who gave vigilance would have been awesome. Of course you cannot give vigilance AND outlast, but replacing one with the other would have been cool.
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Simian grunts is a similar trap-like creature with the same stats and that costs the same but divided in two turns... green 6s are bad but i think the spider is too unefficient, reach or not.
Unorthodox solution: break singleton to include 5 Evolving Wilds. Yesterday I finally got the one I lacked (the promo from Khans) so I oficially have one of each art =) Absolute Happiness...
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After watching time and time again the synergy between the eidolons (eidolon-aura turned into a creature, eidolon-aura enchants it, dies and turns into a creature, if you have a third repeat...) I am considering adding the Hopeful Eidolon. It is true that +1 is a lot less than +2, but lifelink is really powerful in this type of deck, and being able to have lifelink twice if you enchant the eidolon when is turned into creature, it could work.
I'm not selled yet, but I am really impressed by Leafcrown Dryad (on anything) + Observant Alseid + Nimbus Naiad.
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My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
True, Replace Feat of Resistance with Burrenton Bombardier.
What do you think about stop talking about 'auras'/'hexproof' and include those into a 'go-tall' archetype, with +1/+1 counters and some equipment as permapump, and lifelinkers+vigilance as bodies?
I think that would give us a better comprehension of that kind of decks.
Also I really like your 'hexproof is the way in which green makes control decks' perspective. Because from that point of view go-tall is just a way to have a good finisher for control / midrange in certain colours.
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
I would point out though, that some +1/+1 enablers (those that put +1/+1 counters on ANY creature) overlap with Auras to create what I would call go-tall archetype: Burst of Strength and Feat of Resistance are way better on Aven Fleetwing than on most other creatures.
Also Hexproof creatures, while are indeed the best payoff cards for go-tall, are not the only ones: I would argue that Double Strike, Lifelink and Vigilance make a card like Trollhide way better too (and, as a side note, allow you to play go-tall even if you don't like uninteraction).
Finally, regarding sacrifice payoff, I think that what we need the most is creatures or effects that do powerfull stuff sacrificing creatures, more than creatures that want to be sacrificed. Because as you pointed out, we have a stock of token makers that can fill that gap, and you could add a 'sacrifice X to do Y' in a swarm deck (or even in an aggro suicidal one), but you generally won't play a 'kill me to do Z' in a deck other than a dedicated sacrifice one.
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
A longshot squad -esque creature but who gave vigilance would have been awesome. Of course you cannot give vigilance AND outlast, but replacing one with the other would have been cool.
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
The first depends on you putting them in the cube. The second one depends on which other cards are in it.
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
(I'm not saying powerlevel evaluation is 100% objective, obviously: every evaluation implies a degree of subjectivism).
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters
I'm not selled yet, but I am really impressed by Leafcrown Dryad (on anything) + Observant Alseid + Nimbus Naiad.
My 490 Pauper Cube
Modern frame only- Common on paper only - no functional copies, no strictly-betters - no subtype-matters