I didnt find any damn creature able to Block and KILL tarmogoyf, Rhinos, and other green beast.. Abyssal is amazing.. And 4cmc is aceptable risk for bob.. Not like Tasigur or others big creatures with cmc 5 or 6...
You are right Sundering growth sucks at destroyin Blood moon.
archangel of tithes will be good in Staxes builds, i wont run it because the triple white mana.. In our deck we got plenty 4drops lot more powerfull than that angel... Name Elspeth Knight-Errant, Sorin, solemn visitor, Hero of bladehold, etc.
U run Fetid heat and many doble W cost... U could sideboard Sundering Growth instead Disenchant. Making another spirit feels good. Making a Pack rat copy feels broken
I ended choosing Batterskull and Timely reinforcements. Both gain life, both gives you bodys to atack or block... Batter as my finisher because dodges spot removal for 3 mana like Pack Rat, and if the Germ dies, you can just Equip a tidehollow or a spirit and you get a 5/5 flier or 6/6 Vigilance - lifelink =P
I would just do +1 Tidehollow, -1 Brimaz.
Just because im a big fan of tidehollow, punishing regular hands.
Did you plan something for your sideboard? Fulminator mage could be an +2/3 instant, because we dont have many answers to tron.
Then some sweepers... And some lifegain.
Yes I saw all their videos and the Craig wescoes the same day, got them in favs =P
The lists are pretty similar...
Craig built the deck for fighting the meta (specially affinity) So he choses Blade splicer > Brimaz (No doble cost, blocks etched champion) and Resto angel for doble golem. And darkblast because it kills all the other creatures
Craig also said he didnt like Lilianas in the deck.
About Jotun grunt, i dont know, may be i need to test it, But by just reading it... I prefer Relic, jotun grunt does nothing in the first turn... If u drop it on T2, it will only attack once, and late game 2mana for 4/4 its that big.
But sure it can win vs Dredge or another grave-based decks
Yea i saw that deck, looks very good.. But Still I vote for white.. Lingering souls is the best Modern spell, also you have Path>Bolt, Elspeths, sorins and more creatures... May be red is better right now against All aggro decks growing up
Yes, the doble cost of Kitchen finks is pretty anoying to build around, also needing T1 swamp for discard...
I choose Kitchen finks just to have a breath against aggro (There are 1 or 2 zoo decks and 1 super fast goblin deck around here)
And kitchen finks gives u 4 life, and kill 1 or 2 creatures in the procces. But again the doble WW sometimes makes me lose my third turn.. or sacrifice 2 more Hp just to shock myself with Godless Shrine...
But today I had this idea. In my Sideboard i had 3 Timely reinforcements, why dont we just swap them: 3 kitchen finks out, 3 Reinforcements In (Opening 3 new SB slots).
Pros: No doble cost, 2 more life, 3 body.
Cons: It has 2 conditions, less Hp (easy for us) and less creatures than our oponent (That makes the card useless against control).
Affinity: Won both matches very easily, 1 lingering souls put u ahead... And darkblast wins alone this Matchup, but he never topdecked Etched champion, just once but Inqusition of kozilek was 1x1
Boogles: First match he rased me with 1 creature. I did lost 7 life with fetchs, shocks, and bob... But recovered Bloquing with pack rats and start again with souls + zealous
Second match i stared with toughtseize, folowed by Inquisition, folowed by Tidehollow, and win hitting with Finks and Sculler
W Stax: 2-1 very random games, i dont remember these too much, Lingering souls is by Faar the best topdeck, i was very happy when i see it coming, And last game i just Darkblast, dredge, darkblast, dredge... meanwhile 2 Lingerin souls go to grave and win..
Vampires: (yes...) weird games, 2-1.... We just did 1x1 with discards and removals each other.. Then we go topdeck and sometimes he draws only lands or only bombs... I feeled like my deck Lack of stong high cmc creatures or planeswalkers
the pack rat tokens are cmc 2, same as pack rat. The tokens are *copies* of pack rat, and so they mirror all of his copyable values, including cmc.
Ahm.. Thanks for the info...
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Guys can you help me with the manabase? I run 24 lands, (6 colorless)... What would be the best combination to Maximize the chances of Turn 1 = Discard... Turn 3 = Doble white (Kitchen finks)
Most of the times u use it if it's the board is not in your favor... Like a damnation, is allways necesary against creature decks..
And i think it doesnt not kills Pack rat tokens if you drop it with 2 counters, Tokens got 0cmc
So you can kill enemy goyf keeping Pack rats (Exept the original rat)
What do you guys think about Engineered Explosives or Black Sun Zenith Main deck?
Against CoCo decks its like a Damnation effect (but lose 2 or 0 life to Confidant) And Black sun zenith can be a singleton in the deck because it just shuffles... E.E. wins against boogles, affinity, infect... And can kill goyfs and other 2cmc creatures
I feel like you have too much creatures.. May be I just like the deck more control-oriented. I dont know.
Gz for your results loodakrawa and thx for sharing it
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I didnt find any damn creature able to Block and KILL tarmogoyf, Rhinos, and other green beast.. Abyssal is amazing.. And 4cmc is aceptable risk for bob.. Not like Tasigur or others big creatures with cmc 5 or 6...
I'll definitly test him!
Didn't you feel you need more removal?
Thanks for your report!
pretty bad =P 1-2-2
I dont have enought time now, i will report some matches tomorrow maybe
I fighted Junk, Jund, Gifts (Solar flare?) and UW super control homo
I also made a big trade and got 3 lilianas so i got to tech my list again with them
archangel of tithes will be good in Staxes builds, i wont run it because the triple white mana.. In our deck we got plenty 4drops lot more powerfull than that angel... Name Elspeth Knight-Errant, Sorin, solemn visitor, Hero of bladehold, etc.
I ended choosing Batterskull and Timely reinforcements. Both gain life, both gives you bodys to atack or block... Batter as my finisher because dodges spot removal for 3 mana like Pack Rat, and if the Germ dies, you can just Equip a tidehollow or a spirit and you get a 5/5 flier or 6/6 Vigilance - lifelink =P
My list:
4 Dark Confidant
4 Pack Rat
4 Tidehollow Sculler
4 Lingering Souls
2 Timely Reinforcements
2 Batterskull
//Disruption
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Thoughtseize
2 Slaughter Pact
4 Path to Exile
1 Darkblast
1 Dismember
1 Zealous Persecution
//Lands
4 Mutavault
2 Tectonic Edge
4 Marsh Flats
3 Godless Shrine
3 Isolated Chapel
2 Plains
2 Swamp
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Verdant Catacombs
I would just do +1 Tidehollow, -1 Brimaz.
Just because im a big fan of tidehollow, punishing regular hands.
Did you plan something for your sideboard? Fulminator mage could be an +2/3 instant, because we dont have many answers to tron.
Then some sweepers... And some lifegain.
The lists are pretty similar...
Craig built the deck for fighting the meta (specially affinity) So he choses Blade splicer > Brimaz (No doble cost, blocks etched champion) and Resto angel for doble golem. And darkblast because it kills all the other creatures
Craig also said he didnt like Lilianas in the deck.
Here it is:
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=11864
Brian Braun-Duin writes that he took the Craig list and make his modifications
About Jotun grunt, i dont know, may be i need to test it, But by just reading it... I prefer Relic, jotun grunt does nothing in the first turn... If u drop it on T2, it will only attack once, and late game 2mana for 4/4 its that big.
But sure it can win vs Dredge or another grave-based decks
I choose Kitchen finks just to have a breath against aggro (There are 1 or 2 zoo decks and 1 super fast goblin deck around here)
And kitchen finks gives u 4 life, and kill 1 or 2 creatures in the procces. But again the doble WW sometimes makes me lose my third turn.. or sacrifice 2 more Hp just to shock myself with Godless Shrine...
But today I had this idea. In my Sideboard i had 3 Timely reinforcements, why dont we just swap them: 3 kitchen finks out, 3 Reinforcements In (Opening 3 new SB slots).
Pros: No doble cost, 2 more life, 3 body.
Cons: It has 2 conditions, less Hp (easy for us) and less creatures than our oponent (That makes the card useless against control).
While testing this i will remove Restoration Angel for Sorin, lord of innistrad or maybe the new one.
No, i dont run any Fetid heat yet. My mana base is:
Fetchs:
4 Marsh Flats
2 Arid Mesa
2 Verdant Catacombs
Doble color:
4 Godless Shrine
3 Isolated Chapel
Basic:
2 Swamp
2 Plains
Colorless:
3 Mutavault
2 Tectonic Edge
Or may be we are too few people trying to improve this deck, or mtgsalvation is diying?
Nevermind, today I played against somedecks and my list did good.. I'm playing this: (Sorry for my english)
4 Dark confidant
4 Pack Rat
4 Tidehollow sculler
3 Kitchen Finks
2 Restoration Angel
4 Lingering Souls
4 Inquisition of kozilek
3 Thoughtseize
4 Path to exile
2 Slaughter pact
1 Darkblast
1 Zealous persecution
24 Lands
Affinity: Won both matches very easily, 1 lingering souls put u ahead... And darkblast wins alone this Matchup, but he never topdecked Etched champion, just once but Inqusition of kozilek was 1x1
Boogles: First match he rased me with 1 creature. I did lost 7 life with fetchs, shocks, and bob... But recovered Bloquing with pack rats and start again with souls + zealous
Second match i stared with toughtseize, folowed by Inquisition, folowed by Tidehollow, and win hitting with Finks and Sculler
W Stax: 2-1 very random games, i dont remember these too much, Lingering souls is by Faar the best topdeck, i was very happy when i see it coming, And last game i just Darkblast, dredge, darkblast, dredge... meanwhile 2 Lingerin souls go to grave and win..
Vampires: (yes...) weird games, 2-1.... We just did 1x1 with discards and removals each other.. Then we go topdeck and sometimes he draws only lands or only bombs... I feeled like my deck Lack of stong high cmc creatures or planeswalkers
Ahm.. Thanks for the info...
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Guys can you help me with the manabase? I run 24 lands, (6 colorless)... What would be the best combination to Maximize the chances of Turn 1 = Discard... Turn 3 = Doble white (Kitchen finks)
My actual list:
4 Dark confidant
4 Tidehollow Sculler
4 Pack Rat
3 Kitchen Finks
2 Restoration Angel
4 Lingering Souls
4 Path to exile
2 Slaughter Pact
1 Darkblast
4 Inquisition of kozilek
3 Thoughtseize
1 Zealous Persecution
LANDS:
4 Marsh Flats
4 Godless Shrine
2 Isolated Chapel
2 Swamp
2 Plains
2 Verdant Catacombs
1 Arid Mesa
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Mutavault
2 Tectonic Edge
Or may be another 3 drop that help me in the aggro matchup witouth Doble W ? idk
And i think it doesnt not kills Pack rat tokens if you drop it with 2 counters, Tokens got 0cmc
So you can kill enemy goyf keeping Pack rats (Exept the original rat)
Against CoCo decks its like a Damnation effect (but lose 2 or 0 life to Confidant) And Black sun zenith can be a singleton in the deck because it just shuffles... E.E. wins against boogles, affinity, infect... And can kill goyfs and other 2cmc creatures
I feel like you have too much creatures.. May be I just like the deck more control-oriented. I dont know.
Gz for your results loodakrawa and thx for sharing it