I call BS on anyone who says they can fight one of these badass grizzly bears. It is punching a freaking tree in half...good luck fighting it with a weapon. Even the bear in the background is pooping itself at how crazy of a mofo this bear is!
I call BS on anyone who says they can fight one of these badass grizzly bears. It is punching a freaking tree in half...good luck fighting it with a weapon. Even the bear in the background is pooping itself at how crazy of a mofo this bear is!
Yep. But the guy who mentioned his skill with a halberd has gotten me really curious. Never having held any type of pole-arm, I don't know how easy they are to maneuver or what their range is. At first I assumed that a halberd would be a clumsy weapon, even in trained hands; and that one of those crazy-ass tree-punchers would just swipe it aside. But then again, with something like this, you might just be able to get in a crippling stab to the bear's face before it took a swipe at you.
As for myself, I'm a skinny teenager with no fighting skills of any kind who can't even climb a tree in haste. Unarmed, I'd be incapacitated near-instantly in the OP's matchup. But with a halberd...I dunno. Maybe I could last a couple seconds longer and give the bear a scar or two.
ITT way too many people watch way too much anime and vastly overestimate their ability to use weapons.
i don't care how many arcane unheard of styles of bladed weapon fighting you do. i don't care how many hours you've spent swinging a samurai sword at make-believe enemies in your mothers basement.
ITS A GOD DAMN BEAR. WITHOUT A FIREARM YOU WILL DIE.
(note: there are exceptions to this. if you make a bear realize you are more trouble to eat than you are worth, and the bear is only looking for food instead of to kill you, you have a chance at surviving. for the intents of this poll, this is not the case.)
just want to reiterate that, people.
if you think you, with whatever non-firearm weapon you choose, can even remotely put up a fight against a bear, you have spent far too much time in mommy's basement watching naruto.
You should be an MMA fighter if comics doesn't work out for you.
wrestling is good for mma, karate is the worst possible style. at his size, he'd probably get killed first round by people who took actual combat effective martial arts rather than karate.
you do NOT want to fight heavyweight with experience in only one effective martial art.
Yep. But the guy who mentioned his skill with a halberd has gotten me really curious. Never having held any type of pole-arm, I don't know how easy they are to maneuver or what their range is. At first I assumed that a halberd would be a clumsy weapon, even in trained hands; and that one of those crazy-ass tree-punchers would just swipe it aside. But then again, with something like this, you might just be able to get in a crippling stab to the bear's face before it took a swipe at you.
As for myself, I'm a skinny teenager with no fighting skills of any kind who can't even climb a tree in haste. Unarmed, I'd be incapacitated near-instantly in the OP's matchup. But with a halberd...I dunno. Maybe I could last a couple seconds longer and give the bear a scar or two.
I love that weapon, :D, mainly because you can stab things from far away. What's a grizzly bear's reach? Trust me, a 7ft Halberd gives you at least an extra 4 ft of reach with your arms.
Trust me, with a halberd, you have first strike, and if a skinny, no muscled girl, like Thalia, is a 2/1 with First Strike, with her little toothpick of a weapon, then a Muscled, large man with a halberd would definately be a 2/2 3/2 with First Strike.
Ever see those Ballistic gel torsos on Deadliest Warrior or similar shows? Yeah, I've destroyed one of those with a halberd. use the pike end to repeatedly stab your adversary, and then, when they're woosy and wobbly, use the axehead and cleave it into the head of the bear... What would you do if you had a near-footlong Metal Spike repeatedly being stabbed into you, and you couldn't reach your attacker?
Simple, yes?
Swinging a Halberd is nothing like swinging a little samurai sword around at imaginary targets. Halberds are fairly heavy, so it'd take a bit of strength to use the axehead effectively.
So, I'd be a 3/2 First striker. because, in all of magic's history, Pikes/Halberds give first strike.
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Where did you get one, and how much did it cost?
I know the answers to this, but I honestly just don't believe you. Not even a little.
Eh, It wasn't mine, but I destroyed it. I imagine it costs a lot, They even filled vital organs with fake blood to show damage. IT was awesome, and bloody. All ya gotta do is poke out the vital organs and tada...damage incurred. sadly though, I couldn't chop through the spinal cord to sever the head...
Anyways, Seriously, you don't need a gun to beat a dominarian bear...you just need a weapon that can put distance between you and it and do damage at the same time, you could to the same thing with a pike/spear/glaive/insert polearm...
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Eh, It wasn't mine, but I destroyed it. I imagine it costs a lot, They even filled vital organs with fake blood to show damage. IT was awesome, and bloody. All ya gotta do is poke out the vital organs and tada...damage incurred. sadly though, I couldn't chop through the spinal cord to sever the head...
Anyways, Seriously, you don't need a gun to beat a dominarian bear...you just need a weapon that can put distance between you and it and do damage at the same time, you could to the same thing with a pike/spear/glaive/insert polearm...
no.
bruce lee would not have stood a chance against a bear with a polearm.
i'm not the only one, there are 14 other people that think they'd beat the bear...
Then fourteen other people are wrong, unless they've had training with firearms.
You're not beating a bear with a halberd. You'd only get one chance, and do you really think you'd be able to stay calm and deliver a single killing blow when you've got a snarling grizzly bear one second away from tearing you to shreds? You'd swing and fail to kill it on your first strike (you'd only get one hit), the bear would smash into you and you'd be mauled to death.
Even if you luckily managed to get in a good hit and wound it, you're not going to stop the momentum of the bear. It's still smashing into you, you're still going down, and you're still dead.
i'm not the only one, there are 14 other people that think they'd beat the bear...
Yeah, to add to Rivaltuna and Sarang: just no. Think about it: weapons like 12 gauge shotguns or lower caliber rifles (like military .223) are NOT recommended firearms for bear hunting (not enough penetration or stopping power), and I have no doubt that both those firearms put ALOT more energy behind them than the strongest humans can put behind a halberd, spear, whatever.
That aside from the fact that bear instincts aren't bad. What makes you think it won't just swipe your polearm away when you jab/swing?
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Then fourteen other people are wrong, unless they've had training with firearms.
You're not beating a bear with a halberd. You'd only get one chance, and do you really think you'd be able to stay calm and deliver a single killing blow when you've got a snarling grizzly bear one second away from tearing you to shreds? You'd swing and fail to kill it on your first strike (you'd only get one hit), the bear would smash into you and you'd be mauled to death.
Even if you luckily managed to get in a good hit and wound it, you're not going to stop the momentum of the bear. It's still smashing into you, you're still going down, and you're still dead.
Umm, Halberds have these long, 6-7 inch spikes on the end of them, they're a piercing weapon and a cleaving weapon all in one... So, no. I wouldn't have just ONE shot... all I have to do is Stab that giant bear multiple times, enough to slow it down then i can wait for it to pass out from blood-loss, then cut its' head off.
Or, take the easy way out, bring an assault rifle...
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Is this thread real life? The only way conceivable that a single person can kill a bear with out a gun (barring stuff like loads of prep time with traps etc) is do what Anthony Hopkins did in that movie: Wait for the bear to standup for a strike, take out your spear and hope he lands on it and impale himself with his own weight.
Is this thread real life? The only way conceivable that a single person can kill a bear with out a gun (barring stuff like loads of prep time with traps etc) is do what Anthony Hopkins did in that movie: Wait for the bear to standup for a strike, take out your spear and hope he lands on it and impale himself with his own weight.
That's kinda what I was getting at, Bears usually stand up to strike... So, when it strikes, it runs into a mouthful of blades.
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Is this thread real life? The only way conceivable that a single person can kill a bear with out a gun (barring stuff like loads of prep time with traps etc) is do what Anthony Hopkins did in that movie: Wait for the bear to standup for a strike, take out your spear and hope he lands on it and impale himself with his own weight.
chances of that happening instead of the bear mauling and killing you?
less than 1 in 1000.
i don't care what superelitenaruto training you have with a polearm or halberd, YOU DO NOT STAND A CHANCE AGAINST A BEAR (that is setting out to kill you deliberately) WITHOUT A FIREARM AND EXPERIENCE USING THAT FIREARM.
chances of that happening instead of the bear mauling and killing you?
less than 1 in 1000.
i don't care what superelitenaruto training you have with a polearm or halberd, YOU DO NOT STAND A CHANCE AGAINST A BEAR (that is setting out to kill you deliberately) WITHOUT A FIREARM AND EXPERIENCE USING THAT FIREARM.
even then, it's not a guarantee.
While people on this thread are defiantly overestimating their abilities, bears where hunted before guns ever existed. There is a weapon called the bear spear meant specifically for bear hunting.
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While people on this thread are defiantly overestimating their abilities, bears where hunted before guns ever existed. There is a weapon called the bear spear meant specifically for bear hunting.
so modern magic nerds are comparable in both strength, skill, and martial ability to hunter-gatherer primitives?
Just to say, if I had a "halberd" I'd probably just say no to that and have a sturdy spear, it's a lot easier to penetrate without the axe head in the way. If that's all I had I don't think anyone I know could stab a bear enough or hard enough to inflict serious damage so backing up to a tree and raising it at the last moment as it charges seems to be the only answer. You better hope the shaft doesn't splinter either. I think that halberd guy is really overestimating his abilities with a halberd, and is under the assumption that the bear would stop after the first stab. It's not a human a lot of times it will just keep coming at you and ignore the weapon, kill you and walk away wounded.
Yep. But the guy who mentioned his skill with a halberd has gotten me really curious. Never having held any type of pole-arm, I don't know how easy they are to maneuver or what their range is. At first I assumed that a halberd would be a clumsy weapon, even in trained hands; and that one of those crazy-ass tree-punchers would just swipe it aside. But then again, with something like this, you might just be able to get in a crippling stab to the bear's face before it took a swipe at you.
As for myself, I'm a skinny teenager with no fighting skills of any kind who can't even climb a tree in haste. Unarmed, I'd be incapacitated near-instantly in the OP's matchup. But with a halberd...I dunno. Maybe I could last a couple seconds longer and give the bear a scar or two.
Given that, anyone else, realistically, is dead without trading, although I suppose you could make like Dream Fighter and get out of there.
You should be an MMA fighter if comics doesn't work out for you.
i don't care how many arcane unheard of styles of bladed weapon fighting you do. i don't care how many hours you've spent swinging a samurai sword at make-believe enemies in your mothers basement.
ITS A GOD DAMN BEAR. WITHOUT A FIREARM YOU WILL DIE.
(note: there are exceptions to this. if you make a bear realize you are more trouble to eat than you are worth, and the bear is only looking for food instead of to kill you, you have a chance at surviving. for the intents of this poll, this is not the case.)
just want to reiterate that, people.
if you think you, with whatever non-firearm weapon you choose, can even remotely put up a fight against a bear, you have spent far too much time in mommy's basement watching naruto.
wrestling is good for mma, karate is the worst possible style. at his size, he'd probably get killed first round by people who took actual combat effective martial arts rather than karate.
you do NOT want to fight heavyweight with experience in only one effective martial art.
I love that weapon, :D, mainly because you can stab things from far away. What's a grizzly bear's reach? Trust me, a 7ft Halberd gives you at least an extra 4 ft of reach with your arms.
Trust me, with a halberd, you have first strike, and if a skinny, no muscled girl, like Thalia, is a 2/1 with First Strike, with her little toothpick of a weapon, then a Muscled, large man with a halberd would definately be a 2/2 3/2 with First Strike.
Ever see those Ballistic gel torsos on Deadliest Warrior or similar shows? Yeah, I've destroyed one of those with a halberd. use the pike end to repeatedly stab your adversary, and then, when they're woosy and wobbly, use the axehead and cleave it into the head of the bear... What would you do if you had a near-footlong Metal Spike repeatedly being stabbed into you, and you couldn't reach your attacker?
Simple, yes?
Swinging a Halberd is nothing like swinging a little samurai sword around at imaginary targets. Halberds are fairly heavy, so it'd take a bit of strength to use the axehead effectively.
So, I'd be a 3/2 First striker. because, in all of magic's history, Pikes/Halberds give first strike.
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It wasn't an option, so I went with the closest possible descriptor for me: bear food.
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Where did you get one, and how much did it cost?
I know the answers to this, but I honestly just don't believe you. Not even a little.
Eh, It wasn't mine, but I destroyed it. I imagine it costs a lot, They even filled vital organs with fake blood to show damage. IT was awesome, and bloody. All ya gotta do is poke out the vital organs and tada...damage incurred. sadly though, I couldn't chop through the spinal cord to sever the head...
Anyways, Seriously, you don't need a gun to beat a dominarian bear...you just need a weapon that can put distance between you and it and do damage at the same time, you could to the same thing with a pike/spear/glaive/insert polearm...
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no.
bruce lee would not have stood a chance against a bear with a polearm.
you think you could?
i'm not the only one, there are 14 other people that think they'd beat the bear...
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Then fourteen other people are wrong, unless they've had training with firearms.
You're not beating a bear with a halberd. You'd only get one chance, and do you really think you'd be able to stay calm and deliver a single killing blow when you've got a snarling grizzly bear one second away from tearing you to shreds? You'd swing and fail to kill it on your first strike (you'd only get one hit), the bear would smash into you and you'd be mauled to death.
Even if you luckily managed to get in a good hit and wound it, you're not going to stop the momentum of the bear. It's still smashing into you, you're still going down, and you're still dead.
Yeah, to add to Rivaltuna and Sarang: just no. Think about it: weapons like 12 gauge shotguns or lower caliber rifles (like military .223) are NOT recommended firearms for bear hunting (not enough penetration or stopping power), and I have no doubt that both those firearms put ALOT more energy behind them than the strongest humans can put behind a halberd, spear, whatever.
That aside from the fact that bear instincts aren't bad. What makes you think it won't just swipe your polearm away when you jab/swing?
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Umm, Halberds have these long, 6-7 inch spikes on the end of them, they're a piercing weapon and a cleaving weapon all in one... So, no. I wouldn't have just ONE shot... all I have to do is Stab that giant bear multiple times, enough to slow it down then i can wait for it to pass out from blood-loss, then cut its' head off.
Or, take the easy way out, bring an assault rifle...
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Yes, and many people respond to these polls with the trolly answer without giving it any thought.
Seriously, look at Thalia, she can't possibly lift more than 75 pounds, and she beats the bear with her little toothpick sword...
And you're saying a guy that can lift 225 pounds+, with a better weapon, can't?
...I fail to see the logic...
EDIT: Okay, look, I think we can all say If I have my halberd, chances are, I've got other weapons on me, I can carry up to the following at one time.
1 Polearm (Primary WEapon)
1 Broad Sword (Sheathed, on back)
4-5 Knives of varying sizes... (Throwing Knives, and other)
Equipment good... Bear dead.
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That's kinda what I was getting at, Bears usually stand up to strike... So, when it strikes, it runs into a mouthful of blades.
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chances of that happening instead of the bear mauling and killing you?
less than 1 in 1000.
i don't care what superelitenaruto training you have with a polearm or halberd, YOU DO NOT STAND A CHANCE AGAINST A BEAR (that is setting out to kill you deliberately) WITHOUT A FIREARM AND EXPERIENCE USING THAT FIREARM.
even then, it's not a guarantee.
While people on this thread are defiantly overestimating their abilities, bears where hunted before guns ever existed. There is a weapon called the bear spear meant specifically for bear hunting.
Stats About Mythics
-Mythics are on average 40% rarer than pre-mythic rares
(old blocks about 200 rares, Mythic blocks 35+ mythics)
-They are printing more new cards a year not less
(about 665 now vs. 630 in most pre-mythic block)
-To drop the value of a rare by $1 a mythic must go up $2
-In a 3 year time span deck prices doubled.
I am petitioning for the removal of mythic rarity. Sig this to join the cause.
so modern magic nerds are comparable in both strength, skill, and martial ability to hunter-gatherer primitives?
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It would, and if it was made out of metal, too bad. metal bends, and a bear is about 500 lbs of fury, fat, muscle, claws, fangs, and EATING YOUR FACE.
there's just no realistic way a modern human could take a bear in hand to hand combat with anything other than a relatively large caliber firearm.
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