He did show a lack of respect for those people (especailly the girl) and did nothing more then further thier beliefs that all christians are douchebags.
Glass house, sir, glass house.
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While obviously not all cute girls are Christian, and that is definitely a stereotype, you are bringing a lot of loaded language in here. First off, how do Christians "reject" non-Christians? Do they refuse to acknowledge them? Tell me how this word applies. Tell me, what are the Christian reactions to Muslims and gays? Hm? The "good" Christians are the ones that preach love and tolerance, and for myself and other "good" Christians (I am not trying to put myself on a pedastal, for I know I have many faults) we still love homosexuals as humans. And what about Muslims? I haven't heard any Christians saying anything bad about them.
My apologies, I was implying the historical reactions of Christians, as in before the Reformation, and also before modern societal pressures forced changes in the church. I'll not go into great detail, but suffice it to say that Muslims and homosexuals were considered subhuman by the church of that day. Obviously times have changed, and I was merely commenting on how his reaction mirrored this earlier reaction.
And what I meant by "proper Christians" rather than "good Christians" are the Christians who take the Bible too literally and preach against gays, abortions, and non-believers. It is the good Christians who accept these people as human beings. I was admittedly ambiguous, and I apologize. I never meant to say that MD acted like a good Christian, but there are people who would consider his actions "Christian," and these people are good Christians according to old beliefs.
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He did show a lack of respect for those people (especailly the girl) and did nothing more then further thier beliefs that all christians are douchebags.
Glass house, sir, glass house.
What the hell do you mean? Tremnar is stating that, by standing up and walking out at their declaration of being Scientologists, they likely felt justified in their beliefs that CHristians are wrong. Perhaps he could've worded it better, but the point is valid - and true. A warning about glass houses might have been appropriate if he had said something like "THose douchebag Scientologists probably thought that Christians were douchebags because he walked out." Your statement is condescending and nonsensical, and as such offends me.
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What the hell do you mean? Tremnar is stating that, by standing up and walking out at their declaration of being Scientologists, they likely felt justified in their beliefs that CHristians are wrong. Perhaps he could've worded it better, but the point is valid - and true. A warning about glass houses might have been appropriate if he had said something like "THose douchebag Scientologists probably thought that Christians were douchebags because he walked out." Your statement is condescending and nonsensical, and as such offends me.
I took offense to the statement that Trevnar made because it seemed as if he was saying "All Christians are douchebags, and this further proves it".
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Then you didn't actually read his post. He said that Scientologists believe that Christians are douchebags.He never said he agreed with them, nor that he thought they were right, merely that this is what Scientologists believe. If him stating an opinion held by many people (an opinion you seemed to know they held) offends you, then I don't know how you're going to deal with the real world. Prepare to be constantly offended.
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She's a two-faced ****rag ***** bucket with NO grasp on reality or objectivity let alone sincerity or humanity!!! She FEEDS on drama, all day every day, like a ****ing prostitute feeds on STDs--- in much the same way, mind you...
Just as there is no perfect government, there is also no perfect religion. With government we need people to look after our identity as countrymen, and if we believe they are doing this we will support them because having no government works less well than having a bad one. Some anarchists might disagree but the open-minded among them will know exactly what I'm talking about; there is only a certain amount of time that a group of people can tolerate not having a leader or a group identity, and that amount of time is rather short. Individuals can live without leaders, but groups of people cannot because they lack the courage to become individuals.
In the same way that we are unable to govern ourselves, people are unable to believe in themselves as both the cause and effect of their personal destiny. For this reason we create gods and demons and alien lords concerned with our "mitachlorians" [oh wait that was Star Wars], "body thetans" or whatever. We take history and turn in on its head and say that one religious prophet in the Middle East was more right than a different religious prophet in the Middle East, mainly because the one was white. Religion, while relieving us of our burden caused by a lack of self-belief, also saddles us with all the various prejudices of humankind, be ye christian, buddhist, muslim, or scientologist. Religion is as much a form of crowd control as a government, but with a deeper connection to the follower. Who here still fails to understand that the US presence in the Middle East is part of a millennia-long war of habit between opposing religions, both sides too stupid to understand that their self-righteous acts are hypocrital? An individual doesn't need a god, but groups of people do because they lack the self-belief to become individuals.
Scientology merely proves that people will believe anything because the need to believe in *something* greater than us is so strong. If it works for Scientology, it almost certainly works for your religion, so maybe you need to wonder a bit about why you believe what you do? Maybe what you believe is no more true than Xenu, merely more plausible.
That was quite possibly the most existential response I've ever seen...
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i didnt understood that argument the first time i read it, but now understand it...brilliant.
BTW the scientology thing is really creeping me out
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My apologies, I was implying the historical reactions of Christians, as in before the Reformation, and also before modern societal pressures forced changes in the church. I'll not go into great detail, but suffice it to say that Muslims and homosexuals were considered subhuman by the church of that day. Obviously times have changed, and I was merely commenting on how his reaction mirrored this earlier reaction.
And what I meant by "proper Christians" rather than "good Christians" are the Christians who take the Bible too literally and preach against gays, abortions, and non-believers. It is the good Christians who accept these people as human beings. I was admittedly ambiguous, and I apologize. I never meant to say that MD acted like a good Christian, but there are people who would consider his actions "Christian," and these people are good Christians according to old beliefs.
What the hell do you mean? Tremnar is stating that, by standing up and walking out at their declaration of being Scientologists, they likely felt justified in their beliefs that CHristians are wrong. Perhaps he could've worded it better, but the point is valid - and true. A warning about glass houses might have been appropriate if he had said something like "THose douchebag Scientologists probably thought that Christians were douchebags because he walked out." Your statement is condescending and nonsensical, and as such offends me.
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I took offense to the statement that Trevnar made because it seemed as if he was saying "All Christians are douchebags, and this further proves it".
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I deal with the real world just fine, thank you.
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In the same way that we are unable to govern ourselves, people are unable to believe in themselves as both the cause and effect of their personal destiny. For this reason we create gods and demons and alien lords concerned with our "mitachlorians" [oh wait that was Star Wars], "body thetans" or whatever. We take history and turn in on its head and say that one religious prophet in the Middle East was more right than a different religious prophet in the Middle East, mainly because the one was white. Religion, while relieving us of our burden caused by a lack of self-belief, also saddles us with all the various prejudices of humankind, be ye christian, buddhist, muslim, or scientologist. Religion is as much a form of crowd control as a government, but with a deeper connection to the follower. Who here still fails to understand that the US presence in the Middle East is part of a millennia-long war of habit between opposing religions, both sides too stupid to understand that their self-righteous acts are hypocrital? An individual doesn't need a god, but groups of people do because they lack the self-belief to become individuals.
Scientology merely proves that people will believe anything because the need to believe in *something* greater than us is so strong. If it works for Scientology, it almost certainly works for your religion, so maybe you need to wonder a bit about why you believe what you do? Maybe what you believe is no more true than Xenu, merely more plausible.
It's spelt "ridiculous", people, not "rediculous" - get a dictionary or perhaps a better education.
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BTW the scientology thing is really creeping me out
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My guess is society--that is, ourselves and the people around us.
And this is necroing.