I know many of us were sure that this day would never happen, but after a long chat with Hannes, the possibility to enact what we wanted to has finally come to fruition. We're going to put it into place as early as just a few weeks. Some of the newer mods might not be familiar with some of the details, but search the archives and you'll figure out what it is.
Any proposed changes or problems with this before we put it into motion?
For the record, I'm still against this. I don't think there has ever been a greater misstep in the history of this community. And I'm including the worst mistakes made both here and on 'News. I've been an ardent member of this community since 2001, I've been loyal to the spirit of the community and vocal when I feel its leaders are leading it down a terrible path. Now is such a time.
But Ive already made my arguments and it would appear they've been ignored. It was Hannes' choice in the end and it would seem he's made it. I hope only for the best.
Woo! It's time for celebration! After all that waiting, finally. Of course, we really should have done this about a year ago, but better late than never, right?
Well, I mean, you are the Water Cooler Talk mod. It's not like the connection really needs a explanation.
Yeah, and let's not forget who you promoted as reward for having to deal with that craphole of a subforum. So yes, if anyone knows how foolhardy it is to let the dim bulbs have more control than necessary (the ideal is of course none at all), it would be the one who spends most of his time here sifting through the pig troughs.
I've yet to see a single convincing argument for this. Why rock the boat when the status quo was more or less working?
About as mature as I've come to expect from you. Why exactly are you relevant again?
I could say the same to you.
Look, don't make this harder than it needs to be. I think that the benefits of this change far outweigh the negatives. We've worked so hard to make this a possibility. Change is difficult, but this is simply dollars. It's on a whole another level.
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Honestly, I see both sides of this issue. I guess I just was hoping it wouldn't be necessary.
And Mikey, seriously c'mon. I know this is where we are supposed to be able to be candid with each other, but just because YuanTi is being a douchebag doesn't mean getting all dramatic about it is going to help anything. Can we please just try to keep the discussion constructive? If this thread devolves into the average Debate forum topic, we'll never get anything done.
EDIT: P.S. It looks like Cyan has already started in on this. Wonderful.
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My question is, how are the Custom Cards folks going to take this? I mean, it's going to be a real heavy blow against them. Not to mention the change to the FCC...
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My question is, how are the Custom Cards folks going to take this? I mean, it's going to be a real heavy blow against them. Not to mention the change to the FCC...
Meh. The FCC players tend to lobby for changes to the game about very six months anyway; they'll be fine.
Making sure every single card in the forum is properly copyrighted and trademarked to WotC is going to be the real *****, though. Maybe we can get Pichoro to add an option into MSE2 that makes it easy to set a default copyiright or something.
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Wow, calm down man. Yes, this might be a little bit rough, but it's definitely a good idea. Once everyone gets adjusted to this the forums are going to be a much better, more interesting place. It'll probably be a little different, but we should be better off afterward.
Thanks Hannes (and everyone else who's making this happen).
At least we try thinking things out, which is more than I can say to those that just eat up anything those above them **** out. Like you, for example.
Though I think in your case it might be a good thing that you don't think for yourself. I bet if you had an original thought, your head would explode from the strain. So keep playing eager lapdog for the admins, a simpler existence here suits you.
Speaking of which, isn't it about time for the admins' nightly oral pleasure? Pucker up, YuanTi. Pucker up.
Oh, I get it, you're one of those good 'ole folk who thinks that sleeping with guys makes you a ***.
****** or ***--a gay man, frequently one who is swishy, queeny, or effeminate
I'm actually none of those things. Even gay men are capable of not being ****. Despite how the hetero world uses the word as a pejorative against anyone not-straight, the queer community uses the word in a much more focused way to signify a particular personality type (of which I'm not). I'm a bi man, I'm no ***, not in any sense of the word.
Any proposed changes or problems with this before we put it into motion?
But Ive already made my arguments and it would appear they've been ignored. It was Hannes' choice in the end and it would seem he's made it. I hope only for the best.
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I think we all know why you're really against it.
Why don't you just come right out and say it then?
I grow tired of the veiled stabs I receive for speaking my mind, especially coming from my supposed peers.
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Yeah, and let's not forget who you promoted as reward for having to deal with that craphole of a subforum. So yes, if anyone knows how foolhardy it is to let the dim bulbs have more control than necessary (the ideal is of course none at all), it would be the one who spends most of his time here sifting through the pig troughs.
I've yet to see a single convincing argument for this. Why rock the boat when the status quo was more or less working?
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Edit: I would argue that the status quo was not more or less working. The status quo in regards to this matter is pretty damn terrible.
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That's one perspective. I think the status quo is preferable to the mess we'll have when this goes south.
About as mature as I've come to expect from you. Why exactly are you relevant again?
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I could say the same to you.
Look, don't make this harder than it needs to be. I think that the benefits of this change far outweigh the negatives. We've worked so hard to make this a possibility. Change is difficult, but this is simply dollars. It's on a whole another level.
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Honestly, I see both sides of this issue. I guess I just was hoping it wouldn't be necessary.
And Mikey, seriously c'mon. I know this is where we are supposed to be able to be candid with each other, but just because YuanTi is being a douchebag doesn't mean getting all dramatic about it is going to help anything. Can we please just try to keep the discussion constructive? If this thread devolves into the average Debate forum topic, we'll never get anything done.
EDIT: P.S. It looks like Cyan has already started in on this. Wonderful.
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I'd rather that you just admit it. Then the healing can begin!
It was always going to come down to this one way or another. The writing's been on the wall even since Hannes took over.
I don't know why everybody is so excited about it. In the long run, it isn't going to help us.
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justice must always be served and corruption must always be opposed."
Go read! I am one of the three authors of Cranial Insertion.
But seriously, if you can't remember "Woapalanne", just call me Eli.
Meh. The FCC players tend to lobby for changes to the game about very six months anyway; they'll be fine.
Making sure every single card in the forum is properly copyrighted and trademarked to WotC is going to be the real *****, though. Maybe we can get Pichoro to add an option into MSE2 that makes it easy to set a default copyiright or something.
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Wow, calm down man. Yes, this might be a little bit rough, but it's definitely a good idea. Once everyone gets adjusted to this the forums are going to be a much better, more interesting place. It'll probably be a little different, but we should be better off afterward.
Thanks Hannes (and everyone else who's making this happen).
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I don't care if I was framed for murder if I only got a warning I would let it go.
At least we try thinking things out, which is more than I can say to those that just eat up anything those above them **** out. Like you, for example.
Though I think in your case it might be a good thing that you don't think for yourself. I bet if you had an original thought, your head would explode from the strain. So keep playing eager lapdog for the admins, a simpler existence here suits you.
Speaking of which, isn't it about time for the admins' nightly oral pleasure? Pucker up, YuanTi. Pucker up.
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Could've fooled me.
I may be a lot of things, but I've never been a ***.
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Oh, I get it, you're one of those good 'ole folk who thinks that sleeping with guys makes you a ***.
****** or ***--a gay man, frequently one who is swishy, queeny, or effeminate
I'm actually none of those things. Even gay men are capable of not being ****. Despite how the hetero world uses the word as a pejorative against anyone not-straight, the queer community uses the word in a much more focused way to signify a particular personality type (of which I'm not). I'm a bi man, I'm no ***, not in any sense of the word.
Archatmos
Excellion
Fracture: Israfiel (WBR), Wujal (URG), Valedon (GUB), Amduat (BGW), Paladris (RWU)
Collision (Set Two of the Fracture Block)
Quest for the Forsaken (Set Two of the Excellion Block)
Katingal: Plane of Chains