they need to start with the thran, its has everything. it has the best plot points and the deepest characters. heck, even Shakespeare would have liked the thran.
its the only one they can do that will be LOTR quality
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As a property, I think Magic would fare better as an animated series, with the starting point being the Brothers war, if only because it offers the longest and likely most compelling continuous storyline.
Yeah, you had the discussion 5 years ago.
But Brian Goldner gave some hints before and now their are new infos:
"Hasbro Inc. (HAS) and Universal Pictures formed a six-year strategic partnership to produce at least four motion pictures based on brands such as Monopoly, Candy Land, Ouija, Battleship, Magic, the Gathering and Stretch Armstrong."
As Kotaku.com says: "Monopoly the Movie? I can already hear the actors viciously fighting over who gets to be the race car. We're so doomed. Luckily the first film won't be released until 2010 or 2011, which is plenty of time for us to dig very large holes to hide in."
But a mtg movie (or toy movies in generell) seem to make kind of sense, because you get not just money with the movie itself, but also with all the merchandise crap/cards.
I'm still to stunned thinking about the monopoly movie, that I can't think about a Magic the Gathering movie. Monopoly!
This isn't a confirmation that there will be a Mtg movie, but that there COULD be now more than ever.
The Monopoly movie seems to be all but certain (Ridley Scott is going to be the director), but this is really big new in the advertising/movie merger that has made product placement more prevalent today.
Magic is probably the most likely brand to be made into a movie, which makes me think that it's unlikely. Why have a traditional fantasy movie when you could do a game based on candy land?
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If the Monopoly movie is a success, the other ones, and that will include MtG. So that begs the question, what will it be about? The storyline - if so, what block(s) - or the cards and the game itself.
Well, as Kratistos said, only time will tell.
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Once they somehow story-arc back to Mishra, Neo-Phyrexia and the reincarnation of Urza through Karn's powerstones, then a movie will be able to effectively close the loop and incorporate all the stories of Magic into 1 somewhat cohesive timeline.
I can see an opeing siloloquy of about 3 minutes that can preface the multiverse, different planes that have been travelled and the colors of Magic. The rest sort of fits in on variation on the themes of the original premise of the 5 colors, planeswalkers, etc.
That's alot of speculation, but it can be done...
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I think the Brother's War is by far the best candidate for success. It can be advertised as a brotherly split-turned epic rivalry, downplaying the magic elements of the storyline (TBW didn't have much that magic in it anyway, rather much more technology). If successful, they could then transition into the urza block storyline, and then into the weatherlight crew storyline, and finally the invasion storyline. And as an encore - the Thran storyline, as a sort of prequel.
First the obvious would be going off of a storyline. If that happens, I would like to see Ravnica, even though it could be hard to follow at times.
Another way they could go, which would be completely unlikely, but also so humerous it wouldnt be funny is have Magic go all Yugioh. You know, raise the stakes. What kind of duel do you have when you don't risk your soul. A boring one I'll tell ya.
...Why have a traditional fantasy movie when you could do a game based on candy land?
For the same reason that there's a Spiderwick movie, or Narnia, or Golden Compass, or that Eragon movie. The movie studios are still hot to find the next Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter franchise. (and by franchise I mean cash cow).
I enjoyed the Clue movie, so movies off of board games don't have to suck completely.
I'm not sure the whole Thran/Urza/Gerrard epic could really be boiled down into a movie series without losing a lot of plot and turning into a total cheesefest. It might be more fun to have a movie about Jace, Ajani, Garruk, Chandra, and Liliana (probably competing against each other for some goal.)
Wizards was planing on using those signature characters for other things weren't they?
Yeah, I have heard about the board game titles, but not that MTG was a possibility. I think if they took the "classic" MTG storyline, I think it would work significantly well. Ravnica might even be suitable. Anything else would be pure, unadulterated bunk.
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Honestly, they probably won't make a MTG movie -- the other properties would work better.
But if they do, I think the best movie they could make would involve Magic players. The fictional characters would have to make some sort of appearance (if only in fantasy sequences), but a movie about a kid trying to make the Pro Tour that added in elements of the game sort of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind-style (surrealistic, but skewing younger, like a brighter Limony Snicket's) could actually be pretty decent.
The movie they'd actually make would probably be somewhere between The Last Starfighter and The Neverending Story -- about a kid who gets sucked into the world of the cards or meets the guys from the cards and goes on a Magical adventure to find all 5 colors of mana or something like that.
They wouldn't do a straight Magic plotline story. I can practically guarantee it.
I can see the pitch meeting right now,
"We're making a movie about cards, boyos, and you're telling me there's no cards in the movie? Go back to the drawing board! I want to see cards, boyos, cards! It's Rounders meets The Lion King. And throw in some action and some eye candy! It writes itself!"
It would probably be a generic magic story. some planeswalker(maybe a familiar one) finds this plane(new one never mentioned in storyline) and must use spells and raise army to fight bad guy who has an artifact that will destroy the multiverse or something like that.
first off i must say, i'm slightly terrified at this idea. magic has so many stories that it may end up being one of the films made..
that being said, the weather light saga is not something i believe would be created. the story is on a LotR level of length (definitely more than 1 movie) and budget (if you think of all the costumes, weapons, cgi, etc)
the brothers war on the other hand, is one of the easier storylines to do, and is much shorter. the majority of the magic in that movie was basically the animatrons and mishra's phyrexian dragon, definitely doable i think
Not lobbing stones at you in particular, but why are there so many references to Lord of the Rings? They're not even close to each other, each of the LotR books are past their 80th printings. No freakin way Universal is going to spend a LotR-sized budget. $200 million on a movie or series that, maybe, a hundred thousand people actually know what the heck is going on in the back story. Maybe I'm being short, call it a million people.
Ceteris paribus, Candy Land would make more money than Magic. :\
The Brothers' War could actually end up being a fairly classic film, if they bit the bullet and budgeted it right. Introducing the uninitiated to the Magic universe without having it seem incredibly cheesy would be easy with that story, because the introduction of planeswalkers doesn't have to happen until the very end.
Much of the problem with planeswalkers in the Magic storylines is that they are such a huge source of Deus ex Machina for everything, or if they aren't, you have to wonder why. The Brothers' War avoids the whole issue by not even having planeswalkers at all until the very, very end, and then it doesn't feel like a copout ending because...everyone dies and the world gets destroyed.
Unlike the vast majority of stories that get published these days, TBW actually has some kind of merit as a piece of literature. Assuming the movie was done well, people wouldn't leave the theater thinking, "Well, that was interesting." They'd be thinking, "Huh. They tied up every single loose end, and I'm still curious what's going to happen next."
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If it becomes like Yugioh (IE they focus on the card game aspect and have a bunch of kids play it against some villain and such) then I will have to stab people.
If it comes to that, PM me. I think my ethics could take a backseat to that pressing need as well.
I'd love to see Weatherlight Saga, meself.
I'm thinking what they'd do is they'd get Creative to do the world-building thing. . . except for a film.
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I think a generic fantasy movie (like the afore-mentioned D&D movie) is infinitely more likely than one about the Brothers War or any other actual Magic storyline. Universal probably just wants the brand name.
However, if you want a storyline that reflects what Magic is really about and could actually make a decent movie without looking like an LotR rip-off, then I'd suggest something based off the original Arena book.
I think a generic fantasy movie (like the afore-mentioned D&D movie) is infinitely more likely than one about the Brothers War or any other actual Magic storyline. Universal probably just wants the brand name.
However, if you want a storyline that reflects what Magic is really about and could actually make a decent movie without looking like an LotR rip-off, then I'd suggest something based off the original Arena book.
Agreed. The story (The Arena) has very little to do with the cards...more to do with the environment which would make for a really good movie. It could appeal to people that aren't Magic fans. The Planeswalkers are generic ones so they can start from scratch with personalities...and they wouldn't have to make the characters live up to what the fans believe X person should be like. If they were to make a movie that doesn't use the movie as a spoiler / selling tool for a new block...I think that Arena would be their best choice.
The reason that I am having a hard time seeing the Brothers War be the plot of the movie is...if someone that doesn't play magic decides that they want to start after seeing the movie...only to see their characters not be available in the widely used formats...they might get discouraged and choose not to play. It seems that they could not only make money from the movie but also pick up players / collectors by using a generic setting like that in The Arena. So you will get a great story that is Magic the Gathering...without having to use characters that are cards. It gives the movie watcher the appeal of watching a "simple spellcaster" become a planeswalker. That seems like a perfect movie idea to me.
I know it would result in a cliche' D&D fantasy film, but if any Mtg block were to be made into a movie, my vote would be a trilogy of Odyssey block. I've read the books, and I thought it had a great storyline with deep characters. I'd love to see Kamahl and Laquatus on the big screen
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its the only one they can do that will be LOTR quality
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This isn't a confirmation that there will be a Mtg movie, but that there COULD be now more than ever.
The Monopoly movie seems to be all but certain (Ridley Scott is going to be the director), but this is really big new in the advertising/movie merger that has made product placement more prevalent today.
Magic is probably the most likely brand to be made into a movie, which makes me think that it's unlikely. Why have a traditional fantasy movie when you could do a game based on candy land?
This picture they used on that page reminded me of Christina Ricci and Vinnie Jones. I wonder if Wizards will touch on this subject next week.
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I can see an opeing siloloquy of about 3 minutes that can preface the multiverse, different planes that have been travelled and the colors of Magic. The rest sort of fits in on variation on the themes of the original premise of the 5 colors, planeswalkers, etc.
That's alot of speculation, but it can be done...
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First the obvious would be going off of a storyline. If that happens, I would like to see Ravnica, even though it could be hard to follow at times.
Another way they could go, which would be completely unlikely, but also so humerous it wouldnt be funny is have Magic go all Yugioh. You know, raise the stakes. What kind of duel do you have when you don't risk your soul. A boring one I'll tell ya.
For the same reason that there's a Spiderwick movie, or Narnia, or Golden Compass, or that Eragon movie. The movie studios are still hot to find the next Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter franchise. (and by franchise I mean cash cow).
I enjoyed the Clue movie, so movies off of board games don't have to suck completely.
I'm not sure the whole Thran/Urza/Gerrard epic could really be boiled down into a movie series without losing a lot of plot and turning into a total cheesefest. It might be more fun to have a movie about Jace, Ajani, Garruk, Chandra, and Liliana (probably competing against each other for some goal.)
Wizards was planing on using those signature characters for other things weren't they?
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But if they do, I think the best movie they could make would involve Magic players. The fictional characters would have to make some sort of appearance (if only in fantasy sequences), but a movie about a kid trying to make the Pro Tour that added in elements of the game sort of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind-style (surrealistic, but skewing younger, like a brighter Limony Snicket's) could actually be pretty decent.
The movie they'd actually make would probably be somewhere between The Last Starfighter and The Neverending Story -- about a kid who gets sucked into the world of the cards or meets the guys from the cards and goes on a Magical adventure to find all 5 colors of mana or something like that.
They wouldn't do a straight Magic plotline story. I can practically guarantee it.
I can see the pitch meeting right now,
"We're making a movie about cards, boyos, and you're telling me there's no cards in the movie? Go back to the drawing board! I want to see cards, boyos, cards! It's Rounders meets The Lion King. And throw in some action and some eye candy! It writes itself!"
Not lobbing stones at you in particular, but why are there so many references to Lord of the Rings? They're not even close to each other, each of the LotR books are past their 80th printings. No freakin way Universal is going to spend a LotR-sized budget. $200 million on a movie or series that, maybe, a hundred thousand people actually know what the heck is going on in the back story. Maybe I'm being short, call it a million people.
Ceteris paribus, Candy Land would make more money than Magic. :\
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Much of the problem with planeswalkers in the Magic storylines is that they are such a huge source of Deus ex Machina for everything, or if they aren't, you have to wonder why. The Brothers' War avoids the whole issue by not even having planeswalkers at all until the very, very end, and then it doesn't feel like a copout ending because...everyone dies and the world gets destroyed.
Unlike the vast majority of stories that get published these days, TBW actually has some kind of merit as a piece of literature. Assuming the movie was done well, people wouldn't leave the theater thinking, "Well, that was interesting." They'd be thinking, "Huh. They tied up every single loose end, and I'm still curious what's going to happen next."
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I'd love to see Weatherlight Saga, meself.
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However, if you want a storyline that reflects what Magic is really about and could actually make a decent movie without looking like an LotR rip-off, then I'd suggest something based off the original Arena book.
The reason that I am having a hard time seeing the Brothers War be the plot of the movie is...if someone that doesn't play magic decides that they want to start after seeing the movie...only to see their characters not be available in the widely used formats...they might get discouraged and choose not to play. It seems that they could not only make money from the movie but also pick up players / collectors by using a generic setting like that in The Arena. So you will get a great story that is Magic the Gathering...without having to use characters that are cards. It gives the movie watcher the appeal of watching a "simple spellcaster" become a planeswalker. That seems like a perfect movie idea to me.
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That or Kami Block... horrible set, but such a rich flavor, perfect for that B Movie rating we are all already expecting it to be :p.