If Subterranean Spirit, for some reason or another, were to leave MTGnews forever, would you leave MTG Salvation and head back to MTGnews, to rejoice in the caring benevolence of ElGato and Cyan79 (and the inactiveness and lack of care of Raa)?
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almost impossible to answer anything but maybe to this question. the obvious point that all of us are making is that we want a community that cares about what we care about as individuals. we want a site that's going to be active and pro-active. if MTGNews could do that (without S_S) then people would use the site... however... without reliable sources sniffing out spoilers... it does limit the reasons to go to the site...
I would not go back. While the childishness of S_S is a huge reason for me leaving, these forums are so much better run that I couldn't see me leaving them short of some catastophe.
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I'm not getting why people wouldn't go back if scott left. Isn't Scott like the main reason people are defecting from news? If we refuse to ever go back even if he left, thats sort of like letting him win. Showing him that the damage hes done is permenant.
By returning to the site as soon as he leaves, its basically saying. "We hate you Scott and we're totally disgusted with you, you were the only reason we left, and now that your gone, we can be happy again and pretend you never existed". And I think thats something that really needs to be said to him.
I guess its kind of odd coming from me, considering I still post in News, and I still plan on posting on news until I get banned. But I think that If I were indeed fully boycotting it, that I would return as soon as Scott left.
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Massive and DPC are also Admins..and in fairness, Raa has posted more in the last 3 days than I've seen from him ever before this. He's worked out some sort of deal with Darth Cow to fix some stuff for us, also, from what I understand. He seems to have been shaken up some, and is actually trying now.
No. I already stated this, but even if this site failed and everyone went back to 'News, I still wouldn't go back. R_E also would not go back, even were S_S to step down.
Yeah I love Salvation too much.
And why would anyone go to MTGNews? My sig shop isn't there!
I think this site has a bit more of a mature feeling to it and I like that a lot more.
MTGNews seems "G" while this is rated "PG-14"
I don't think I would just for the simple fact that, I too like fresh starts. This site is doing good anyways, so there would be no reason to leave here.
I would go back yeah, but I would still stay here.. The forums are better here, but the mtgnews forums would be relativly good as well if SS left and people were unbanned and so forth..
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People are forgetting. Raa is only doing anything now because he has to.
R_E and Jeff threatened to leave before Scott was even in the picture. Scott only made the situation worse.
I won't go back.
The site won't be peachy keen without Scott.
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I didn't leave, really, I enjoy disaster waaay too much... but I certainly wouldn't stop coming here. I am enjoying the sort of middle ground this place is filling between the 'news + 'ting feel. I'm voting No, though, in the sense that I feel M:tGN has had its day in the sun.
Even if I could go back to 'News, I wouldn't want to. There is nothing there now that we don't have here. Like Plastik says "Salvation is news, with 90% less Fascism"
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Well, right now, i probably would if r_e and co went back. But this site is rapidly becoming everything that 'news was and more... so very soon i shall cross a l in of no return.
Maybe. Look, I'll be honest - some of the people who have been allowed back here/or are running it here/ are not my favorite newsers, or simply aren't people I'm 100% confident in. Then again, none of them are scotty boy, so they can't be that bad.
But hey, everyone deserves a second chance. Seriously, if we could have 'old news' I'd probably prefer it. We'll see (if Raa comes to his senses).
However, I'm waiting to see how things settle out. I'll stay on both sites (as long as I don't see more reasons to leave Salvation) and watch. If S_S leaves and things improve, cool. If he leaves and the attempts at improvement are temporary (as urzassedatives pointed out, in what I honestly think is a very accurate point :()... Well, we'll see.
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nor more ashamed of its being heard,
than when you sang the songs of Satan.
Raa is doing better, he really is. It is definitely safe to say that RE and co leaving shook him up a little.
I'd most likely return in some capacity.
I mean, Raa is inactive, but it is entirely (well, 99.9999999999%) Scott who is destroying everything.
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By returning to the site as soon as he leaves, its basically saying. "We hate you Scott and we're totally disgusted with you, you were the only reason we left, and now that your gone, we can be happy again and pretend you never existed". And I think thats something that really needs to be said to him.
I guess its kind of odd coming from me, considering I still post in News, and I still plan on posting on news until I get banned. But I think that If I were indeed fully boycotting it, that I would return as soon as Scott left.
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And why would anyone go to MTGNews? My sig shop isn't there!
I think this site has a bit more of a mature feeling to it and I like that a lot more.
MTGNews seems "G" while this is rated "PG-14"
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R_E and Jeff threatened to leave before Scott was even in the picture. Scott only made the situation worse.
I won't go back.
The site won't be peachy keen without Scott.
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I'm not sure. Depends on how far we progress here. I mean we have already passed 'News with the board modifications (and the great smilies).
I wouldn't leave here. I would try to post equally. Of course, I can't even post now, so I don't know.
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But hey, everyone deserves a second chance. Seriously, if we could have 'old news' I'd probably prefer it. We'll see (if Raa comes to his senses).
However, I'm waiting to see how things settle out. I'll stay on both sites (as long as I don't see more reasons to leave Salvation) and watch. If S_S leaves and things improve, cool. If he leaves and the attempts at improvement are temporary (as urzassedatives pointed out, in what I honestly think is a very accurate point :()... Well, we'll see.
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