That humans are burdened by time. That hope is a curse, and that philosophy and reason just bring misery by dispelling illusions (among other things), or that consciousness is a disease.
Reading the book makes it almost hard to believe he’s married with kids.
You have Rousseau going on about how man was happier in early times and how we are slaves to the judgment and opinion of others. That our desires can never be truly satisfied because novelty is in a losing war against time. Then leopardi saying that living longer isnt good of life is just empty and actually endorses risky behavior, saying we can’t achieve happiness but we distract ourselves. They all seem to agree that we can’t be happy. If that’s true then what’s the point in living, how can they be against suicide.
Not to mention they argue that reason and philosophical thinking is the result of man’s ills, that it doesn’t offer solutions to problems. It just dispels the illusions that make us happy. The same goes for knowledge.
They say no one deserves or is entitled to happiness (so what does that mean about the issues in the world, do we leave them? What about abuse of others?)
The author does a poor job of making it seem like it has a benefit despite what the summary says. In a sense it says there’s no point in doing anything since it won’t bring happiness.
Things of that nature make me wonder if there is really any good to doing it. It seems like all it does is make people miserable. It seems to me that the people who don't use it live happier not having to question things about their lives. The illusions they have let them live happily. But once introduced to the methods of philosophy then the questioning becomes like some kind of parasite, undoing the life you have carefully wrought. Even questioning the fact whether living longer is even a good thing any more. There's less and less positives that result from doing it.
Wouldn't it be better to just live in illusion and be happy?
I find that in my pessimism I'm more happy; for, more often am I pleasantly surprised by an outcome than upset and dejected. Philosophy is a choice, and optimism and pessimism both come with benefits and drawbacks. The optimist hops on the horse and goes for a wild ride; the pessimist studies and gets to know the horse better before attempting. Neither of us is guaranteed to have a good time, but we grow from the experience.
And what about the part where they say that we don't have any hope of being happy because our parents raised use on the misguided knowledge that we are owed and deserve happiness.
Things of that nature make me wonder if there is really any good to doing it. It seems like all it does is make people miserable.
You are writing words on a computer, and you are wondering whether philosophy has any useful function?
A computer, dude. A computer.
You clearly didn't read my first post. Your comment is invalid.
Not to mention the part about people being happy considering suicide rates. People say they're happy, but that's more out of some social obligation than an honest assessment.
Not to mention the part about people being happy considering suicide rates. People say they're happy, but that's more out of some social obligation than an honest assessment.
You mean the ~0.0107% of people who commit suicide globally each year? (source) Those suicide rates?
We cannot keep circling back around to the topic of suicide. We have already seen how these discussions quickly move from the philosophical to the personal. That is the kind of talk you need to have with family, friends, and doctors, not the internet.
If you are thinking about harming yourself or attempting suicide, tell someone who can help right away.
Call your doctor’s office.
Call 911 for emergency services.
Go to the nearest hospital emergency room.
In the US, call the toll-free, 24-hour hotline of the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (1-800-273-8255) to be connected to a trained counselor at a suicide crisis center nearest you.
To find a suicide helpline outside the U.S., visit IASP and Suicide.org
It is not unreasonable to ask a family member or friend to help you make these calls or take you to the hospital.
If you have a family member or friend who is suicidal, do not leave him or her alone.Try to get the person to seek help immediately from an emergency room, physician, or mental health professional. Take seriously any comments about suicide or wishing to die. Even if you do not believe your family member or friend will actually attempt suicide, the person is clearly in distress and can benefit from your help in receiving mental health treatment.
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That humans are burdened by time. That hope is a curse, and that philosophy and reason just bring misery by dispelling illusions (among other things), or that consciousness is a disease.
Reading the book makes it almost hard to believe he’s married with kids.
You have Rousseau going on about how man was happier in early times and how we are slaves to the judgment and opinion of others. That our desires can never be truly satisfied because novelty is in a losing war against time. Then leopardi saying that living longer isnt good of life is just empty and actually endorses risky behavior, saying we can’t achieve happiness but we distract ourselves. They all seem to agree that we can’t be happy. If that’s true then what’s the point in living, how can they be against suicide.
Not to mention they argue that reason and philosophical thinking is the result of man’s ills, that it doesn’t offer solutions to problems. It just dispels the illusions that make us happy. The same goes for knowledge.
They say no one deserves or is entitled to happiness (so what does that mean about the issues in the world, do we leave them? What about abuse of others?)
The author does a poor job of making it seem like it has a benefit despite what the summary says. In a sense it says there’s no point in doing anything since it won’t bring happiness.
Things of that nature make me wonder if there is really any good to doing it. It seems like all it does is make people miserable. It seems to me that the people who don't use it live happier not having to question things about their lives. The illusions they have let them live happily. But once introduced to the methods of philosophy then the questioning becomes like some kind of parasite, undoing the life you have carefully wrought. Even questioning the fact whether living longer is even a good thing any more. There's less and less positives that result from doing it.
Wouldn't it be better to just live in illusion and be happy?
You are writing words on a computer, and you are wondering whether philosophy has any useful function?
A computer, dude. A computer.
You clearly didn't read my first post. Your comment is invalid.
Not to mention the part about people being happy considering suicide rates. People say they're happy, but that's more out of some social obligation than an honest assessment.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0984480277/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
Not to mention that it shows consciousness is a mistake and that to be born is to be doomed to suffer and die.
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