No... That is not what the Republican base is annoyed about. Exactly the opposite.
100 percent correct. I only need to look at the budget to know they are not doing their job. It is full of pure pork. Just send it back to obama with public letter telling him he is full of **** and we will pass a real budget. If he doesn't pass pound the democracts for being salary thieves and robbing your children.
I mean, I've read this before. It's still largely not true. It's a giant straw man. Republicans are fighting against an evil liberal that doesn't exist. But, if I say that, as I have all I'm going to get back is a "No you". There won't be any examples. Just "I'm rubber, you're glue". This is not surprising. This is what the republican base has come to. The right wing media makes stuff up. The true believers believe it and regurgitate ad infinitude. They work themselves up into a rage. When you've classified the other side as being pure evil you can't work with them.
And maybe it sounds like I'm demonizing the right, but I'll say this. If the right wants to help pass a highway bill, I'd be on board with that. If the right wanted to look at solving our immigration problem in ways that didn't involve spending a lot of money on a wall (lol, fiscally conservative), then I'd be willing to talk about that. If republicans were really interested in governing at all, I'd work with them and so would the rest of the democratic party.
The democrats have moved to the center on every issue since Obama came into office:
1. Obamacare is literally the heritage committee's (right wing think tank) plan from the 90s proposed in opposition to Hillary's attempt to create a single payor system.
2. We worked to make sure none of the laws passed in the last 8 years increased the deficit.
3. The proposed judge for the court is a moderate that many republicans have said in the past was truly a centrist, but still they won't hear from him.
We can go on and on, but its clear. There aren't any negotiators on the right. There are no people there that want to work with people who don't think like them to come to solutions. Democrats have tried, many times, to work together on legislation, to not pass liberal legislation, but to pass moderate legislation. But anything that makes it look like Democrats can get things done ultimately destroys the message that republicans run on.
So, this is not surprising. Its all posturing. And Trump knows this and knows how to feed on it. The interesting thing is he's unlikely to deliver the republicans everything they want. He is after all a deal maker, and deals require compromise. He's likely to sell the republicans out on every issue to get what he wants (who the hell knows what that really is). But, its probably not good for America. It may destroy the republican party, or it may replace it with something so authoritarian that we start to look like some of the worst countries in the world.
Whatever. Republicans have been working towards this for 3 decades. It's impossible to expect people who don't think to stop it start.
Fixed the last of that line for you.
Also, from the responses you received, at least these Trump supporters want all or nothing. As pointed out that is quite strange since they are supporting a deal maker.
However, the conservatives as a whole are suffering from this issue. They cannot even compromise among themselves.
And often when Congress does work together it's on behalf of massively terrible bills anyway.
Iraq War authorization, Bank bailouts, SOPA.
SOPA did not pass and the bank bailouts while unpopular were necessary to keep our economy from completely collapsing. As they say: two out of three ain't bad.
The bump you see in 2008 is actually because we started counting money from the Iraq war. The bump you see after 2008 is all of the stimulus spending. That tapered off in 2012 and 2013, and more as time went on. But we've returned to 2008 levels of spending which now include the wars. If you took out the wars the numbers would look more like 2005, 2006, and 2007.
If you add all of that up we of course owe more money. But we're actually borrowing less each year since 2009, so we're making positive movement towards getting the deficit in hand. Now, your options moving forward are to vote for Trump who wants to spend a lot of money and cut taxes which will definitely raise the deficit, or to vote for Clinton, whose husband previously actually gave us a surplus. If I were you and I were looking at the graphs and money and trying to reduce the deficit, I'd be asking Clinton if she plans to follow her husband's model and return to a sensible spending plan.
Maybe Trump would be willing to do what the Clinton's did, but currently he's talking about cutting taxes the way Bush did and if he does that then we can expect the deficit to grow, not shrink.
That is the deficit ran each year you rube. Therefore every year on that chart added to the debt. All of them. Until we run a surplus it is not anywhere near good enough. Also we do have bigger problems with corporate inversion. The debt can wait. If you can get them to bring the money back you are golden on the debt. That is two trillion pumped in the economy you get to tax.
But I recall someone asserting that a large portion of illegals were bringing drugs/ stolen docs/ weapons over the border. How could that person make that assertion without data to base the assertion on?
We have been running a deficit for the better part of two decades. That is enough.
It has not been two decades and historically periods between surplus presidencies have lasted much longer yet we are still here.
Bush and obama combined are 16 years...the better part of two decades. Yes lots of illegals are but it is impossible to know the true number because we don't know how many illegals enter the USA every year. They are here illegally.
No... That is not what the Republican base is annoyed about. Exactly the opposite.
100 percent correct. I only need to look at the budget to know they are not doing their job. It is full of pure pork. Just send it back to obama with public letter telling him he is full of **** and we will pass a real budget. If he doesn't pass pound the democracts for being salary thieves and robbing your children.
I mean, I've read this before. It's still largely not true. It's a giant straw man. Republicans are fighting against an evil liberal that doesn't exist. But, if I say that, as I have all I'm going to get back is a "No you". There won't be any examples. Just "I'm rubber, you're glue". This is not surprising. This is what the republican base has come to. The right wing media makes stuff up. The true believers believe it and regurgitate ad infinitude. They work themselves up into a rage. When you've classified the other side as being pure evil you can't work with them.
And maybe it sounds like I'm demonizing the right, but I'll say this. If the right wants to help pass a highway bill, I'd be on board with that. If the right wanted to look at solving our immigration problem in ways that didn't involve spending a lot of money on a wall (lol, fiscally conservative), then I'd be willing to talk about that. If republicans were really interested in governing at all, I'd work with them and so would the rest of the democratic party.
The democrats have moved to the center on every issue since Obama came into office:
1. Obamacare is literally the heritage committee's (right wing think tank) plan from the 90s proposed in opposition to Hillary's attempt to create a single payor system.
2. We worked to make sure none of the laws passed in the last 8 years increased the deficit.
3. The proposed judge for the court is a moderate that many republicans have said in the past was truly a centrist, but still they won't hear from him.
We can go on and on, but its clear. There aren't any negotiators on the right. There are no people there that want to work with people who don't think like them to come to solutions. Democrats have tried, many times, to work together on legislation, to not pass liberal legislation, but to pass moderate legislation. But anything that makes it look like Democrats can get things done ultimately destroys the message that republicans run on.
So, this is not surprising. Its all posturing. And Trump knows this and knows how to feed on it. The interesting thing is he's unlikely to deliver the republicans everything they want. He is after all a deal maker, and deals require compromise. He's likely to sell the republicans out on every issue to get what he wants (who the hell knows what that really is). But, its probably not good for America. It may destroy the republican party, or it may replace it with something so authoritarian that we start to look like some of the worst countries in the world.
Whatever. Republicans have been working towards this for 3 decades. It's impossible to expect people who don't think to stop it start.
Fixed the last of that line for you.
Also, from the responses you received, at least these Trump supporters want all or nothing. As pointed out that is quite strange since they are supporting a deal maker.
However, the conservatives as a whole are suffering from this issue. They cannot even compromise among themselves.
And often when Congress does work together it's on behalf of massively terrible bills anyway.
Iraq War authorization, Bank bailouts, SOPA.
SOPA did not pass and the bank bailouts while unpopular were necessary to keep our economy from completely collapsing. As they say: two out of three ain't bad.
No, the bailout wasn't about what you say it was. It was the American people being forced to absorb the losses and bad decision making of the people who caused the recession in the first place. Banks used the bailout funds to provide bonuses to their executives under the ridiculous justification of "we need to keep experienced talent. Furthermore those funds were used to buy up smaller banks who DIDN'T get bailouts. The big banks and investment firms are bigger than ever. I'm pretty shocked that there are still people buying into the argument of "save the economy".
Lastly just because SOPA didn't pass doesn't mean it didn't have huge bipartisan support. That bill was stopped by the tech firms waking everyone up to how awful that bill Truly was.
Yes lots of illegals are but it is impossible to know the true number because we don't know how many illegals enter the USA every year. They are here illegally.
You said it yourself we don't know. How can you make the assertion that a large portion of them are bringing drugs/ stolen doc/ weapons across the border? You can't is the correct answer you just take your messiah's word on it that most of them are evil people despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
No, the bailout wasn't about what you say it was. It was the American people being forced to absorb the losses and bad decision making of the people who caused the recession in the first place. Banks used the bailout funds to provide bonuses to their executives under the ridiculous justification of "we need to keep experienced talent. Furthermore those funds were used to buy up smaller banks who DIDN'T get bailouts. The big banks and investment firms are bigger than ever. I'm pretty shocked that there are still people buying into the argument of "save the economy".
Well people buy into that because it is a well documented outcome of the bailout. Had we not saved those businesses (most of whom have paid back what the were given at this point btw) then the economic impact would have been much greater. Heck I could find several experts that say we could have had a faster recovery had the bailout been larger. If you can't see that you have not studied economics. I obviously disagree with them giving excess bonuses but the fact remains that those companies and many more would have collapsed without the bailout causing more and more harm to the national and global economy.
Lastly just because SOPA didn't pass doesn't mean it didn't have huge bipartisan support. That bill was stopped by the tech firms waking everyone up to how awful that bill Truly was.
That would be my point SOPA was awful and it had bipartisan opposition. An example of the parties working together to stop something bad.
So, Trump's tax plan is going to increase the deficit by 0.95 trillion/year - an increase of double the current deficit. How is he balancing the budget?
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Yes lots of illegals are but it is impossible to know the true number because we don't know how many illegals enter the USA every year. They are here illegally.
Unfortunately for your "We don't know, therefore I'm right" argument, just because they're here illegally doesn't mean nobody collects data on them. Wikipedia cites numbers from the DHS, the Pew Research Center, the Center for Migration Studies, and the Center for Immigration Studies. For the past decade, the yearly rate has been declining, and the total population in the country has been stable or declining slightly as the rate of those who are going back home has caught up to the rate of those entering.
Has any of this information made it into Trump's stump speech?
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Yes lots of illegals are but it is impossible to know the true number because we don't know how many illegals enter the USA every year. They are here illegally.
Argumentum ad ignorantiam is your defense!? We cannot know, so you and Trump's views are taken as true? You debate in a curious manner.
No... That is not what the Republican base is annoyed about. Exactly the opposite.
100 percent correct. I only need to look at the budget to know they are not doing their job. It is full of pure pork. Just send it back to obama with public letter telling him he is full of **** and we will pass a real budget. If he doesn't pass pound the democracts for being salary thieves and robbing your children.
I mean, I've read this before. It's still largely not true. It's a giant straw man. Republicans are fighting against an evil liberal that doesn't exist. But, if I say that, as I have all I'm going to get back is a "No you". There won't be any examples. Just "I'm rubber, you're glue". This is not surprising. This is what the republican base has come to. The right wing media makes stuff up. The true believers believe it and regurgitate ad infinitude. They work themselves up into a rage. When you've classified the other side as being pure evil you can't work with them.
And maybe it sounds like I'm demonizing the right, but I'll say this. If the right wants to help pass a highway bill, I'd be on board with that. If the right wanted to look at solving our immigration problem in ways that didn't involve spending a lot of money on a wall (lol, fiscally conservative), then I'd be willing to talk about that. If republicans were really interested in governing at all, I'd work with them and so would the rest of the democratic party.
The democrats have moved to the center on every issue since Obama came into office:
1. Obamacare is literally the heritage committee's (right wing think tank) plan from the 90s proposed in opposition to Hillary's attempt to create a single payor system.
2. We worked to make sure none of the laws passed in the last 8 years increased the deficit.
3. The proposed judge for the court is a moderate that many republicans have said in the past was truly a centrist, but still they won't hear from him.
We can go on and on, but its clear. There aren't any negotiators on the right. There are no people there that want to work with people who don't think like them to come to solutions. Democrats have tried, many times, to work together on legislation, to not pass liberal legislation, but to pass moderate legislation. But anything that makes it look like Democrats can get things done ultimately destroys the message that republicans run on.
So, this is not surprising. Its all posturing. And Trump knows this and knows how to feed on it. The interesting thing is he's unlikely to deliver the republicans everything they want. He is after all a deal maker, and deals require compromise. He's likely to sell the republicans out on every issue to get what he wants (who the hell knows what that really is). But, its probably not good for America. It may destroy the republican party, or it may replace it with something so authoritarian that we start to look like some of the worst countries in the world.
Whatever. Republicans have been working towards this for 3 decades. It's impossible to expect people who don't think to stop it start.
Fixed the last of that line for you.
Also, from the responses you received, at least these Trump supporters want all or nothing. As pointed out that is quite strange since they are supporting a deal maker.
However, the conservatives as a whole are suffering from this issue. They cannot even compromise among themselves.
Because every single time budget cuts are promised int he future they never happen.
That may or may not be true - can you prove they "never happen"? - but the larger point is you are unwilling to accept a half-a-loaf. You'd rather starve or feast.
Yes lots of illegals are but it is impossible to know the true number because we don't know how many illegals enter the USA every year. They are here illegally.
Unfortunately for your "We don't know, therefore I'm right" argument, just because they're here illegally doesn't mean nobody collects data on them. Wikipedia cites numbers from the DHS, the Pew Research Center, the Center for Migration Studies, and the Center for Immigration Studies. For the past decade, the yearly rate has been declining, and the total population in the country has been stable or declining slightly as the rate of those who are going back home has caught up to the rate of those entering.
Has any of this information made it into Trump's stump speech?
What does the total number declining have to do with drugs going across. The number of illegals declining is because the economy sucks.
Here are some more stats. " 7,976 illegal aliens “wanted for serious crimes, including murder, rape, assault and robbery,” is the number caught in 2013.
That is the deficit ran each year you rube. Therefore every year on that chart added to the debt. All of them. Until we run a surplus it is not anywhere near good enough.
You were complaining about the deficit on the previous page. So I was talking about the deficit. I'm aware that the debt went up each year, I even said it. Now, Obama has consistently shrunk the deficit since we were required to increase it to combat a recession. I don't know how you run a surplus without reducing a deficit. So yes, magic-christmas-land didn't happen, it wasn't instantaneously fixed, but it has moved in the direction you would have liked it to at a time when cutting government spending unwisely could have easily sent our country into a depression.
And, I remind you, the last time we ran a surplus was during a Clinton administration. Bush put us on a path which destroyed that, and then he destroyed the economy and we had to spend a lot to fix. Why aren't you supporting the democrats who have overall been better stewards of the economy if you really care about this issue?
Also we do have bigger problems with corporate inversion. The debt can wait. If you can get them to bring the money back you are golden on the debt. That is two trillion pumped in the economy you get to tax.
I agree, but I want to remind you that it was Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders who started talking about these problems first. Both are Democrats, yes, Trump has talked about this, but he has also used these laws and abused other laws to profit. I'm unsure why you trust a man whose taken advantage of the system to personally profit to fix it. There are better representatives out there that care about these issues, and they are almost all democrats.
Then don't dodge the issue a deficit is still a deficit. It is better doesn't matter if it isn't good enough. Also Warren and Bernies plan would increase the number for companies leaving. Rich people have options and connections. They can pick any more favorable economy and go there. Their plans don't work because the wealth will just leave if you treat them like that. Moreover the democrats had a super majority for 2 years why did they not pass these wondrous plans?
Here are some more stats. " 7,976 illegal aliens “wanted for serious crimes, including murder, rape, assault and robbery,” is the number caught in 2013.
20 percent of illegal immigrants caught at the border have criminal records.
So what you are saying is that 80% are reasonable people seeking a better life in America? That really isn't helping your argument that "A large portion of these people are bringing drugs, stolen documents, and weapons across" It would seem that a relatively small portion of them are bad people. Don't you think?
Here are some more stats. " 7,976 illegal aliens “wanted for serious crimes, including murder, rape, assault and robbery,” is the number caught in 2013.
20 percent of illegal immigrants caught at the border have criminal records.
So what you are saying is that 80% are reasonable people seeking a better life in America? That really isn't helping your argument that "A large portion of these people are bringing drugs, stolen documents, and weapons across" It would seem that a relatively small portion of them are bad people. Don't you think?
so we are suppose to let 8000 harden criminals into the US. Let me ask you this. Is it ok to let 8000 harden criminals into the United States? Let me remind you 8000 is only number of the illegals we have caught that have previous convictions.
so we are suppose to let 8000 harden criminals into the US. Let me ask you this. Is it ok to let 8000 harden criminals into the United States?
No one said that, the point is to not go assuming that the entirety of a group of people is made up of murderers thieves and rapists as your friend Trump asserts. I am glad you did some research on the matter perhaps now you have a better understanding on the it than you will even get from Trump.
so we are suppose to let 8000 harden criminals into the US. Let me ask you this. Is it ok to let 8000 harden criminals into the United States?
No one said that, the point is to not go assuming that the entirety of a group of people is made up of murderers thieves and rapists as your friend Trump asserts. I am glad you did some research on the matter perhaps now you have a better understanding on the it than you will even get from Trump.
answer the question. Is it took to have at least 8000 harden criminals enter the USA every year? It is a simple question.
answer the question. Is it took to have at least 8000 harden criminals enter the USA every year? It is a simple question.
Cut the hyperbole you know the answer and it is beside the point. No one is saying we should not secure our border, but shooting people just for crossing or building a wall are both horrible solutions. Would you care to come up with a reasonable solution?
so we are suppose to let 8000 harden criminals into the US. Let me ask you this. Is it ok to let 8000 harden criminals into the United States?
No one said that, the point is to not go assuming that the entirety of a group of people is made up of murderers thieves and rapists as your friend Trump asserts. I am glad you did some research on the matter perhaps now you have a better understanding on the it than you will even get from Trump.
answer the question. Is it took to have at least 8000 harden criminals enter the USA every year? It is a simple question.
There were 11.3 million unauthorized immigrants in the US in 2014...
If your statistic is to believed... that means only .07% of illegal immigrants are actually hardened criminals.
I'm ok with those statistics. You have a greater chance of getting cancer then there is of a hardened criminal entering the US illegal. And the chance of running into that hardened criminal? Even lower.
Yes lots of illegals are but it is impossible to know the true number because we don't know how many illegals enter the USA every year. They are here illegally.
Argumentum ad ignorantiam is your defense!? We cannot know, so you and Trump's views are taken as true? You debate in a curious manner.
100 percent correct. I only need to look at the budget to know they are not doing their job. It is full of pure pork. Just send it back to obama with public letter telling him he is full of **** and we will pass a real budget. If he doesn't pass pound the democracts for being salary thieves and robbing your children.
I mean, I've read this before. It's still largely not true. It's a giant straw man. Republicans are fighting against an evil liberal that doesn't exist. But, if I say that, as I have all I'm going to get back is a "No you". There won't be any examples. Just "I'm rubber, you're glue". This is not surprising. This is what the republican base has come to. The right wing media makes stuff up. The true believers believe it and regurgitate ad infinitude. They work themselves up into a rage. When you've classified the other side as being pure evil you can't work with them.
And maybe it sounds like I'm demonizing the right, but I'll say this. If the right wants to help pass a highway bill, I'd be on board with that. If the right wanted to look at solving our immigration problem in ways that didn't involve spending a lot of money on a wall (lol, fiscally conservative), then I'd be willing to talk about that. If republicans were really interested in governing at all, I'd work with them and so would the rest of the democratic party.
The democrats have moved to the center on every issue since Obama came into office:
1. Obamacare is literally the heritage committee's (right wing think tank) plan from the 90s proposed in opposition to Hillary's attempt to create a single payor system.
2. We worked to make sure none of the laws passed in the last 8 years increased the deficit.
3. The proposed judge for the court is a moderate that many republicans have said in the past was truly a centrist, but still they won't hear from him.
We can go on and on, but its clear. There aren't any negotiators on the right. There are no people there that want to work with people who don't think like them to come to solutions. Democrats have tried, many times, to work together on legislation, to not pass liberal legislation, but to pass moderate legislation. But anything that makes it look like Democrats can get things done ultimately destroys the message that republicans run on.
So, this is not surprising. Its all posturing. And Trump knows this and knows how to feed on it. The interesting thing is he's unlikely to deliver the republicans everything they want. He is after all a deal maker, and deals require compromise. He's likely to sell the republicans out on every issue to get what he wants (who the hell knows what that really is). But, its probably not good for America. It may destroy the republican party, or it may replace it with something so authoritarian that we start to look like some of the worst countries in the world.
Whatever. Republicans have been working towards this for 3 decades. It's impossible to expect people who don't think to stop it start.
Fixed the last of that line for you.
Also, from the responses you received, at least these Trump supporters want all or nothing. As pointed out that is quite strange since they are supporting a deal maker.
However, the conservatives as a whole are suffering from this issue. They cannot even compromise among themselves.
Because every single time budget cuts are promised int he future they never happen.
That may or may not be true - can you prove they "never happen"? - but the larger point is you are unwilling to accept a half-a-loaf. You'd rather starve or feast.
The number of illegals declining is because the economy sucks.
Wait a second. It all makes sense now. Trump is planning on starting trade wars to get the economy to suck even harder, thereby ending illegal immigration.
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Look, I'm a moderate liberal who wishes for a strong and sincere Republican party to give us a strong, honest and representative democracy.
Anyway, not only is Trump's rhetoric abominable but he can't and won't do it. It's insane and he's a liar. He is as empty as a Kardashian, a name famous for inheritance and attention.
My only comfort is he's the only Republican candidate who loses to Hillary Clinton. So that's nice.
Look, I'm a moderate liberal who wishes for a strong and sincere Republican party to give us a strong, honest and representative democracy.
Anyway, not only is Trump's rhetoric abominable but he can't and won't do it. It's insane and he's a liar. He is as empty as a Kardashian, a name famous for inheritance and attention.
My only comfort is he's the only Republican candidate who loses to Hillary Clinton. So that's nice.
The British imposed a tariff on Chinese steel because the Chinese government was dumping their excess onto British markets and costs them 40k jobs. Are you saying we can't do the same because you want to protect your Chinese investments or are you saying we can't because Hillary Clinton and the Dems are too beholden to shipping jobs overseas?
The British imposed a tariff on Chinese steel because the Chinese government was dumping their excess onto British markets and costs them 40k jobs. Are you saying we can't do the same because you want to protect your Chinese investments or are you saying we can't because Hillary Clinton and the Dems are too beholden to shipping jobs overseas?
No one is saying not to use tariffs for any of the reasons you listed. They are mostly saying not to use tariffs because they result in higher priced goods for Americans (deny it if you want but this is a well documented side effect of tariffs) and are unlikely to bring many jobs back from China. It could very well slow the loss of jobs. Unforeseen side effects could also be worse the loosing jobs since it is not the best idea to threaten China in a trade war considering we receive so many manufactured good from them.
Companies are going to continue to outsource to nations with cheaper workforces unless they are prevented from doing so in some way. So long as American labor is more expensive than labor in other nation jobs will keep leaving the country. One of many reasons why increasing the minimum wage is not a great idea economically.
answer the question. Is it took to have at least 8000 harden criminals enter the USA every year? It is a simple question.
Cut the hyperbole you know the answer and it is beside the point. No one is saying we should not secure our border, but shooting people just for crossing or building a wall are both horrible solutions. Would you care to come up with a reasonable solution?
Answer the question you are dodging a simple yes or no. I said nothing about means.
The number of illegals declining is because the economy sucks.
Wait a second. It all makes sense now. Trump is planning on starting trade wars to get the economy to suck even harder, thereby ending illegal immigration.
If you have less labor available you need to pay them more. You create scarcity. Supply and demand works even with labor.
I am for putting the military along the border so if someone is going to get away, shooting them works in my book. Obviously that is illegal now but it shouldn't be.
I am for putting the military along the border so if someone is going to get away, shooting them works in my book. Obviously that is illegal now but it shouldn't be.
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That is my preference. Obviously the main goal is just to stop them from crossing. If I could do it cheaper and in a nicer way, sure. Would you secure the border? If you don't want to shoot people how far would you go. Also how is building a wall terrible. They simply can't cross if they can't cross the wall. It is certainly nicer compared to the current system where we chase them down on horses and helicopters and tackle them.
Fixed the last of that line for you.
Also, from the responses you received, at least these Trump supporters want all or nothing. As pointed out that is quite strange since they are supporting a deal maker.
However, the conservatives as a whole are suffering from this issue. They cannot even compromise among themselves.
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2016/03/18/Forget-Trump-Heres-Whos-Really-Destroying-Republican-Party
That is the deficit ran each year you rube. Therefore every year on that chart added to the debt. All of them. Until we run a surplus it is not anywhere near good enough. Also we do have bigger problems with corporate inversion. The debt can wait. If you can get them to bring the money back you are golden on the debt. That is two trillion pumped in the economy you get to tax.
Bush and obama combined are 16 years...the better part of two decades. Yes lots of illegals are but it is impossible to know the true number because we don't know how many illegals enter the USA every year. They are here illegally.
Because every single time budget cuts are promised int he future they never happen.
No, the bailout wasn't about what you say it was. It was the American people being forced to absorb the losses and bad decision making of the people who caused the recession in the first place. Banks used the bailout funds to provide bonuses to their executives under the ridiculous justification of "we need to keep experienced talent. Furthermore those funds were used to buy up smaller banks who DIDN'T get bailouts. The big banks and investment firms are bigger than ever. I'm pretty shocked that there are still people buying into the argument of "save the economy".
Lastly just because SOPA didn't pass doesn't mean it didn't have huge bipartisan support. That bill was stopped by the tech firms waking everyone up to how awful that bill Truly was.
Well people buy into that because it is a well documented outcome of the bailout. Had we not saved those businesses (most of whom have paid back what the were given at this point btw) then the economic impact would have been much greater. Heck I could find several experts that say we could have had a faster recovery had the bailout been larger. If you can't see that you have not studied economics. I obviously disagree with them giving excess bonuses but the fact remains that those companies and many more would have collapsed without the bailout causing more and more harm to the national and global economy.
That would be my point SOPA was awful and it had bipartisan opposition. An example of the parties working together to stop something bad.
Has any of this information made it into Trump's stump speech?
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Argumentum ad ignorantiam is your defense!? We cannot know, so you and Trump's views are taken as true? You debate in a curious manner.
That may or may not be true - can you prove they "never happen"? - but the larger point is you are unwilling to accept a half-a-loaf. You'd rather starve or feast.
What does the total number declining have to do with drugs going across. The number of illegals declining is because the economy sucks.
https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/201/~/statistics---drug-seizures
that is the amount seized according to customs.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2014/01/21/border-patrol-60-percent-of-414-397-illegal-aliens-arrests-along-southwest-border-in-2013-occurred-in-texas/
Here are some more stats. " 7,976 illegal aliens “wanted for serious crimes, including murder, rape, assault and robbery,” is the number caught in 2013.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/illegal-immigrants-responsible-for-almost-three-fourths-of-federal-drug-possession-sentences-in-2014/article/2567814
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/9/20-pct-illegals-caught-border-have-criminal-record/?page=all#pagebreak
20 percent of illegal immigrants caught at the border have criminal records.
Then don't dodge the issue a deficit is still a deficit. It is better doesn't matter if it isn't good enough. Also Warren and Bernies plan would increase the number for companies leaving. Rich people have options and connections. They can pick any more favorable economy and go there. Their plans don't work because the wealth will just leave if you treat them like that. Moreover the democrats had a super majority for 2 years why did they not pass these wondrous plans?
So what you are saying is that 80% are reasonable people seeking a better life in America? That really isn't helping your argument that "A large portion of these people are bringing drugs, stolen documents, and weapons across" It would seem that a relatively small portion of them are bad people. Don't you think?
so we are suppose to let 8000 harden criminals into the US. Let me ask you this. Is it ok to let 8000 harden criminals into the United States? Let me remind you 8000 is only number of the illegals we have caught that have previous convictions.
answer the question. Is it took to have at least 8000 harden criminals enter the USA every year? It is a simple question.
There were 11.3 million unauthorized immigrants in the US in 2014...
If your statistic is to believed... that means only .07% of illegal immigrants are actually hardened criminals.
I'm ok with those statistics. You have a greater chance of getting cancer then there is of a hardened criminal entering the US illegal. And the chance of running into that hardened criminal? Even lower.
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Anyway, not only is Trump's rhetoric abominable but he can't and won't do it. It's insane and he's a liar. He is as empty as a Kardashian, a name famous for inheritance and attention.
My only comfort is he's the only Republican candidate who loses to Hillary Clinton. So that's nice.
Companies are going to continue to outsource to nations with cheaper workforces unless they are prevented from doing so in some way. So long as American labor is more expensive than labor in other nation jobs will keep leaving the country. One of many reasons why increasing the minimum wage is not a great idea economically.
Answer the question you are dodging a simple yes or no. I said nothing about means.
If you have less labor available you need to pay them more. You create scarcity. Supply and demand works even with labor.
so you didn't write this post: ?
That is my preference. Obviously the main goal is just to stop them from crossing. If I could do it cheaper and in a nicer way, sure. Would you secure the border? If you don't want to shoot people how far would you go. Also how is building a wall terrible. They simply can't cross if they can't cross the wall. It is certainly nicer compared to the current system where we chase them down on horses and helicopters and tackle them.
No irony, here?
Do you have an actual post on a topic or are you going to just troll?