How much policy overlap is there between Hitler and any of the people you named? How much between Hitler and Trump?
Nah man don't you get it, they're all Socialists! Nazis, Democrats, Stalin's Communists, New Zealand's Green Party... they're all exactly the same because they've got socialist somewhere in the party name or description.
Yep more than happy to compare Trump to the Nazis, but when its your side you get all defensive. No they are not the same cause they have socialist in their names, they are the same cause they are all lying sociopaths, that won't stop these stupid wars. They are for more government control, and the left/right fight is a facade. Canada has the only decent Prime Minister that has stopped his country bombing in Syria and Iraq.
How much policy overlap is there between Hitler and any of the people you named? How much between Hitler and Trump?
Nah man don't you get it, they're all Socialists! Nazis, Democrats, Stalin's Communists, New Zealand's Green Party... they're all exactly the same because they've got socialist somewhere in the party name or description.
Yep more than happy to compare Trump to the Nazis, but when its your side you get all defensive. No they are not the same cause they have socialist in their names, they are the same cause they are all lying sociopaths, that won't stop these stupid wars. They are for more government control, and the left/right fight is a facade. Canada has the only decent Prime Minister that has stopped his country bombing in Syria and Iraq.
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Which stupid wars are you interested in stopping? How did they begin? What would be the result of stopping them?
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Well here are some things that overlap between The Socialist Left America and the National Socialist Germany:
#1 Nazi Germany was a totalitarian Big Brother police state that constantly monitored everything that German citizens did. -NSA
#2 Nazi officials often used their positions of power to force others to do dehumanizing things. -Police Shootings on the rise
#4 In Nazi Germany, authorities could stop you and search you at any time and for any reason. -Standard in America now
#5 Under Adolf Hitler, there were massive increases in government spending. -Obama has over doubled the debt
#6 Under Hitler, taxes were raised dramatically in order to pay for all of these social programs. -All international companies like Apple leaving America
#7 The economy of Nazi Germany was very highly socialized. -FoodStamps...
#8 In Nazi Germany, if you conducted business outside of the socialist paradigm you were heavily punished. -Don't pay tax, go to Jail
#9 In Nazi Germany, government regulation of business got wildly out of control. -Biggest law library in history
#10 Under Hitler, free market capitalism was absolutely hated. -Today it is as well!
#11 In Nazi Germany, the health care system was taken over by the government. -Obamacare...
#14 In Nazi Germany, education was nationalized and God was kicked out of the schools. -God kicked out is good, but Government taking over schools to make sheep
#17 Under Adolf Hitler, the state started taking over the job of child care. -raise sheep
#19 Under Adolf Hitler, sexual promiscuity was actually encouraged. -Break down of the family and more reliance on government.
#20 Once the Nazis took power, they rapidly implemented gun control legislation and later on they took all of the guns away from the populace. -Obama today...
#21 Under the Nazis, large numbers of children were taken away from good families. -Sustainable off grid families are getting their kids stolen
#22 Under Adolf Hitler, society became very highly militarized. -Police are getting militarized
#23 In Nazi Germany, the prisons were absolutely packed. -Huge industry in the US, they buy out their candidates with 'donations'
#24 Under Adolf Hitler, there was basically no freedom of speech. -Free speech zones now in Unis
#25 Under Adolf Hitler, paranoia was standard operating procedure. -NSA spying on all internet messages
Some I agree with more than other, but its all there, almost the same policies. Trump will continue these polices and is just as Evil, but please look at your own party, and see the similarities with the Nazis. It is silly only to compare Trump! They are all Nazis!!!
Well here are some things that overlap between The Socialist Left America and the National Socialist Germany:
#1 Nazi Germany was a totalitarian Big Brother police state that constantly monitored everything that German citizens did. -NSA
#2 Nazi officials often used their positions of power to force others to do dehumanizing things. -Police Shootings on the rise
#4 In Nazi Germany, authorities could stop you and search you at any time and for any reason. -Standard in America now
#5 Under Adolf Hitler, there were massive increases in government spending. -Obama has over doubled the debt
#6 Under Hitler, taxes were raised dramatically in order to pay for all of these social programs. -All international companies like Apple leaving America
#7 The economy of Nazi Germany was very highly socialized. -FoodStamps...
#8 In Nazi Germany, if you conducted business outside of the socialist paradigm you were heavily punished. -Don't pay tax, go to Jail
#9 In Nazi Germany, government regulation of business got wildly out of control. -Biggest law library in history
#10 Under Hitler, free market capitalism was absolutely hated. -Today it is as well!
#11 In Nazi Germany, the health care system was taken over by the government. -Obamacare...
#14 In Nazi Germany, education was nationalized and God was kicked out of the schools. -God kicked out is good, but Government taking over schools to make sheep
#17 Under Adolf Hitler, the state started taking over the job of child care. -raise sheep
#19 Under Adolf Hitler, sexual promiscuity was actually encouraged. -Break down of the family and more reliance on government.
#20 Once the Nazis took power, they rapidly implemented gun control legislation and later on they took all of the guns away from the populace. -Obama today...
#21 Under the Nazis, large numbers of children were taken away from good families. -Sustainable off grid families are getting their kids stolen
#22 Under Adolf Hitler, society became very highly militarized. -Police are getting militarized
#23 In Nazi Germany, the prisons were absolutely packed. -Huge industry in the US, they buy out their candidates with 'donations'
#24 Under Adolf Hitler, there was basically no freedom of speech. -Free speech zones now in Unis
#25 Under Adolf Hitler, paranoia was standard operating procedure. -NSA spying on all internet messages
Some I agree with more than other, but its all there, almost the same policies. Trump will continue these polices and is just as Evil, but please look at your own party, and see the similarities with the Nazis. It is silly only to compare Trump! They are all Nazis!!!
My favorite thing about this post is that you've apparently removed several items from an original 25-point list, and yet the ones you hand-picked to leave in are still absolutely insane.
My favorite thing about this post is that you've apparently removed several items from an original 25-point list, and yet the ones you hand-picked to leave in are still absolutely insane.
I missed out some cause I didnt agree with some, but some are relevant still. Others require further debating. And because I picked some does that mean they are not Nazi like... Is that your argument¿
When you argue, you come up with points. A point is not calling something 'absolutely insane'
Like say you were to argue against "#1 Nazi Germany was a totalitarian Big Brother police state that constantly monitored everything that German citizens did."
You could say the NSA is a peaceful organisation that is looking for the terrorists and Edward Snowden is a tripple double liar agent, or some bull***** like that.
But what you have just said is trash. Please try again, I thought this was a debate part of the forum, I did not read spam anywhere!
I'm also a conspiracy theorist about 9/11... and Turkey
Where was the airforce?
How does a 3 second fireball melt 2inch thick steel?
How did WTC7 fall?
How much it looks like a controlled demolition? Came straight down at the same speed as gravity, (no impact delay floor to floor).
Where is the video of a plane hitting the pentagon?
15/19 hijackers Saudi... US goes to Afghanistan
I see ya all struggling to answer these
The air-force was doing planed training missing, the 'terrorists' knew this.
With the help from Explosives.
With the help from Explosives.
With the help from Explosives.
There is none video of a plane cause it was a missile.
They want oil and drugs!
And you want to fight about who is the next president of this pile of *****. It doesn't really matter! Trump is a Nazi, Hilary is a Nazi, Sanders is a Nazi, they are all lying sociopaths.
My favorite thing about this post is that you've apparently removed several items from an original 25-point list, and yet the ones you hand-picked to leave in are still absolutely insane.
I missed out some cause I didnt agree with some, but some are relevant still. Others require further debating. And because I picked some does that mean they are not Nazi like... Is that your argument¿
When you argue, you come up with points. A point is not calling something 'absolutely insane'
Like say you were to argue against "#1 Nazi Germany was a totalitarian Big Brother police state that constantly monitored everything that German citizens did."
You could say the NSA is a peaceful organisation that is looking for the terrorists and Edward Snowden is a tripple double liar agent, or some bull***** like that.
But what you have just said is trash. Please try again, I thought this was a debate part of the forum, I did not read spam anywhere!
Copy-pasting from a conspiracy website is not a debate. If you want someone to address it, post your own thoughts.
"Tax is not under threat of death" - yeah it is, if you don't pay your tax the IRS will come after you, if you don't want to go with them they will shoot you!
Bull.
Name a single person shot in an incident related to tax evasion in America.
"War in the middle east is at least somewhat necessar" Evil!! well America shouldn't be meddling in it.
And now you sound like an evangelical preacher. Great.
Why shouldn't America intervene to help end conflicts when such an action would be effective? If you are against war, then intervention to end it should be something you appreciate.
"They don't 'work for' anybody" - you should check out who they are supported by and how many millions they get! Clinton got 4.9 million form Goldman Sachs
Supported by =/= work for
"So, no government then?" *****ing perfect!!! Big business would collapse if there was no government. And stuff in the private sector is better looked after, cause they are looking after their own things, not with stolen money. And trying to make a profit by return business, keeping the customer happy...
There is a reasons governments exist around the world- people desire such order. Any attempt to remove all government is not going to work for this reason- it will either end up creating government out of businesses or with government simply coming back. You cannot win this.
"No thanks." - well eat the chemical siht you are given.
It's all chemicals my friend.
That carrot you eat, engineered.
That cow, engineered.
That wheat, engineered.
Artificial selection has been a thing long before genetic manipulation or 'artifical' additives.
"always has?" you have a lot to learn from history, you should look into the dark ages! We are about 200 years away from the Roman Empire but wasted 2000 lol go religion and government :S
Not much went backward, it mostly just stalled.
Progress was still made.
Copy-pasting from a conspiracy website is not a debate. If you want someone to address it, post your own thoughts.
Calling this a conspiracy does not discredit it, please learn to argue again!
They are how the current government is Nazi like, stop calling Trump Nazi like if you cannot look in the mirror!!
Just because its copied does not mean its my own thought. I did leave some out that I didnt like, so they are my own thought
Can you please put an argument forth and stop spamming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"Bull.
Name a single person shot in an incident related to tax evasion in America."
- Did I say they have been shot or the threat of shooting, most smart people will follow what you say when threatened with death. And it tends to be the smarter ones that evade tax.
"then intervention to end it should be something you appreciate."
-there is no end through more war.
"Supported by =/= work for"
-no but they pass the laws they want
"It's all chemicals my friend.
That carrot you eat, engineered.
That cow, engineered.
That wheat, engineered.
Artificial selection has been a thing long before genetic manipulation or 'artifical' additives."
-no its not, I grow my own. Selective breading or 'engineering' as you like to call it I'm cool with. Did i say I was against selective breeding/engineering or CHEMICALS?
"Not much went backward, it mostly just stalled.
Progress was still made."
-the dark ages went backwards, the collapse of Rome lowered the living standards for everyone quite considerably.
My favorite thing about this post is that you've apparently removed several items from an original 25-point list, and yet the ones you hand-picked to leave in are still absolutely insane.
Copy-pasting from a conspiracy website is not a debate. If you want someone to address it, post your own thoughts.
So I hand picked them, but then they were not my thoughts..... I don't get where you are coming from....
If I pick them that means I have thought about them... or maybe its a leftie thing, you just pick stuff without reading.
I gave you an example of how you can rebut one of them... so lets try that first!!!
If I was to put a statement forth like you in response to you I could go: "you'r a blind sheep that believes in the absolutely insane News and the absolutely insane government"
-not really adding to much, but that's how lefties 'argue'...
So I hand picked them, but then they were not my thoughts..... I don't get where you are coming from....
If I pick them that means I have thought about them... or maybe its a leftie thing, you just pick stuff without reading.
I gave you an example of how you can rebut one of them... so lets try that first!!!
If I was to put a statement forth like you in response to you I could go: "you'r a blind sheep that believes in the absolutely insane News and the absolutely insane government"
-not really adding to much, but that's how lefties 'argue'...
If you have a particular item you want to discuss, start there. I'm not going to waste time responding to copied lists, they're in endless supply.
If you have a particular item you want to discuss, start there. I'm not going to waste time responding to copied lists, they're in endless supply.
Ok, so we are comparing the current government to the Nazis and Trumps Policies to the Nazis.
I do agree that Some of Trumps polices are like the Nazis, but also the same with the current government and its candidates.
My point is, is that if you want to compare Trump to the Nazis you should also compare the current government too.
So they are both Nazi like in my book. (i'll use point #1, cause I have helped you already on that one)
Can you please explain how the current government is not like the Nazis the NSA area, even after Snowden came out.
If you have a particular item you want to discuss, start there. I'm not going to waste time responding to copied lists, they're in endless supply.
Ok, so we are comparing the current government to the Nazis and Trumps Policies to the Nazis.
I do agree that Some of Trumps polices are like the Nazis, but also the same with the current government and its candidates.
My point is, is that if you want to compare Trump to the Nazis you should also compare the current government too.
So they are both Nazi like in my book. (i'll use point #1, cause I have helped you already on that one)
Can you please explain how the current government is not like the Nazis the NSA area, even after Snowden came out.
If the NSA were like the Gestapo, you would be in prison right now. The Gestapo was tasked with rooting out political opposition and undesired religions and races. The Gestapo was given a blank check to do whatever they felt necessary in pursuit of that mission. They were placed above judicial oversight. By contrast, the NSA is subject to limitation by legislation and executive order. Their actions are reviewed by courts. Political opponents are not being rounded up and executed.
There are certainly aspects of NSA programs one might reasonably disagree with, but it's not comparable to the authority given to the Gestapo.
If the NSA were like the Gestapo, you would be in prison right now. The Gestapo was tasked with rooting out political opposition and undesired religions and races. The Gestapo was given a blank check to do whatever they felt necessary in pursuit of that mission. They were placed above judicial oversight. By contrast, the NSA is subject to limitation by legislation and executive order. Their actions are reviewed by courts. Political opponents are not being rounded up and executed.
There are certainly aspects of NSA programs one might reasonably disagree with, but it's not comparable to the authority given to the Gestapo.
Have you heard of the Patriot act? That allows Indefinite detention without trial of a person...
Have you heard of the Patriot act? That allows Indefinite detention without trial of a person...
You asked about the NSA. The Patriot Act is certainly another thing one might reasonably object to, but let's stick to one at a time. Do you want to defend your assertion that the NSA is Nazi-like, or do you want to concede that point and move on to the Patriot Act?
Have you heard of the Patriot act? That allows Indefinite detention without trial of a person...
You asked about the NSA. The Patriot Act is certainly another thing one might reasonably object to, but let's stick to one at a time. Do you want to defend your assertion that the NSA is Nazi-like, or do you want to concede that point and move on to the Patriot Act?
With the Patriot Act the NSA is Nazi like. The Patriot Act allows the NSA to be the 'Gestapo'. Sorry for combining two points, it must be tricky for you!!
The NSA does not decide who is detained. The NSA does not "get people to do it for them". The NSA is an intelligence collection agency. They do not have police powers, and certainly cannot order someone detained. If you want to talk about detentions, that's just not an NSA issue.
Snowden says otherwise.
Maybe not all, but most, I admit that was an exaggeration.
Also not most. Snowden's leaked NSA documents reveal that they provide Telecoms with search criteria to restrict collection to legitimate targets (that is, non-US persons, except with a FISA warrant, and information related to foreign intelligence). They do not generally have access to raw internet data streams. There are certainly instances in which they have exceeded what I would consider to be the proper constitutional limitations, but it is not true that they are recording any significant portion of Americans' internet messages.
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Yep more than happy to compare Trump to the Nazis, but when its your side you get all defensive. No they are not the same cause they have socialist in their names, they are the same cause they are all lying sociopaths, that won't stop these stupid wars. They are for more government control, and the left/right fight is a facade. Canada has the only decent Prime Minister that has stopped his country bombing in Syria and Iraq.
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Which stupid wars are you interested in stopping? How did they begin? What would be the result of stopping them?
#1 Nazi Germany was a totalitarian Big Brother police state that constantly monitored everything that German citizens did. -NSA
#2 Nazi officials often used their positions of power to force others to do dehumanizing things. -Police Shootings on the rise
#4 In Nazi Germany, authorities could stop you and search you at any time and for any reason. -Standard in America now
#5 Under Adolf Hitler, there were massive increases in government spending. -Obama has over doubled the debt
#6 Under Hitler, taxes were raised dramatically in order to pay for all of these social programs. -All international companies like Apple leaving America
#7 The economy of Nazi Germany was very highly socialized. -FoodStamps...
#8 In Nazi Germany, if you conducted business outside of the socialist paradigm you were heavily punished. -Don't pay tax, go to Jail
#9 In Nazi Germany, government regulation of business got wildly out of control. -Biggest law library in history
#10 Under Hitler, free market capitalism was absolutely hated. -Today it is as well!
#11 In Nazi Germany, the health care system was taken over by the government. -Obamacare...
#14 In Nazi Germany, education was nationalized and God was kicked out of the schools. -God kicked out is good, but Government taking over schools to make sheep
#17 Under Adolf Hitler, the state started taking over the job of child care. -raise sheep
#19 Under Adolf Hitler, sexual promiscuity was actually encouraged. -Break down of the family and more reliance on government.
#20 Once the Nazis took power, they rapidly implemented gun control legislation and later on they took all of the guns away from the populace. -Obama today...
#21 Under the Nazis, large numbers of children were taken away from good families. -Sustainable off grid families are getting their kids stolen
#22 Under Adolf Hitler, society became very highly militarized. -Police are getting militarized
#23 In Nazi Germany, the prisons were absolutely packed. -Huge industry in the US, they buy out their candidates with 'donations'
#24 Under Adolf Hitler, there was basically no freedom of speech. -Free speech zones now in Unis
#25 Under Adolf Hitler, paranoia was standard operating procedure. -NSA spying on all internet messages
Some I agree with more than other, but its all there, almost the same policies. Trump will continue these polices and is just as Evil, but please look at your own party, and see the similarities with the Nazis. It is silly only to compare Trump! They are all Nazis!!!
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All of them, from Drugs to Terror!! They began with lies. Peace!
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My favorite thing about this post is that you've apparently removed several items from an original 25-point list, and yet the ones you hand-picked to leave in are still absolutely insane.
I missed out some cause I didnt agree with some, but some are relevant still. Others require further debating. And because I picked some does that mean they are not Nazi like... Is that your argument¿
When you argue, you come up with points. A point is not calling something 'absolutely insane'
Like say you were to argue against "#1 Nazi Germany was a totalitarian Big Brother police state that constantly monitored everything that German citizens did."
You could say the NSA is a peaceful organisation that is looking for the terrorists and Edward Snowden is a tripple double liar agent, or some bull***** like that.
But what you have just said is trash. Please try again, I thought this was a debate part of the forum, I did not read spam anywhere!
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I see ya all struggling to answer these
The air-force was doing planed training missing, the 'terrorists' knew this.
With the help from Explosives.
With the help from Explosives.
With the help from Explosives.
There is none video of a plane cause it was a missile.
They want oil and drugs!
And you want to fight about who is the next president of this pile of *****. It doesn't really matter! Trump is a Nazi, Hilary is a Nazi, Sanders is a Nazi, they are all lying sociopaths.
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Copy-pasting from a conspiracy website is not a debate. If you want someone to address it, post your own thoughts.
Bull.
Name a single person shot in an incident related to tax evasion in America.
And now you sound like an evangelical preacher. Great.
Why shouldn't America intervene to help end conflicts when such an action would be effective? If you are against war, then intervention to end it should be something you appreciate.
Supported by =/= work for
There is a reasons governments exist around the world- people desire such order. Any attempt to remove all government is not going to work for this reason- it will either end up creating government out of businesses or with government simply coming back. You cannot win this.
It's all chemicals my friend.
That carrot you eat, engineered.
That cow, engineered.
That wheat, engineered.
Artificial selection has been a thing long before genetic manipulation or 'artifical' additives.
Not much went backward, it mostly just stalled.
Progress was still made.
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Calling this a conspiracy does not discredit it, please learn to argue again!
They are how the current government is Nazi like, stop calling Trump Nazi like if you cannot look in the mirror!!
Just because its copied does not mean its my own thought. I did leave some out that I didnt like, so they are my own thought
Can you please put an argument forth and stop spamming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"Bull.
Name a single person shot in an incident related to tax evasion in America."
- Did I say they have been shot or the threat of shooting, most smart people will follow what you say when threatened with death. And it tends to be the smarter ones that evade tax.
"then intervention to end it should be something you appreciate."
-there is no end through more war.
"Supported by =/= work for"
-no but they pass the laws they want
"It's all chemicals my friend.
That carrot you eat, engineered.
That cow, engineered.
That wheat, engineered.
Artificial selection has been a thing long before genetic manipulation or 'artifical' additives."
-no its not, I grow my own. Selective breading or 'engineering' as you like to call it I'm cool with. Did i say I was against selective breeding/engineering or CHEMICALS?
"Not much went backward, it mostly just stalled.
Progress was still made."
-the dark ages went backwards, the collapse of Rome lowered the living standards for everyone quite considerably.
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So I hand picked them, but then they were not my thoughts..... I don't get where you are coming from....
If I pick them that means I have thought about them... or maybe its a leftie thing, you just pick stuff without reading.
I gave you an example of how you can rebut one of them... so lets try that first!!!
If I was to put a statement forth like you in response to you I could go: "you'r a blind sheep that believes in the absolutely insane News and the absolutely insane government"
-not really adding to much, but that's how lefties 'argue'...
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If you have a particular item you want to discuss, start there. I'm not going to waste time responding to copied lists, they're in endless supply.
Ok, so we are comparing the current government to the Nazis and Trumps Policies to the Nazis.
I do agree that Some of Trumps polices are like the Nazis, but also the same with the current government and its candidates.
My point is, is that if you want to compare Trump to the Nazis you should also compare the current government too.
So they are both Nazi like in my book. (i'll use point #1, cause I have helped you already on that one)
Can you please explain how the current government is not like the Nazis the NSA area, even after Snowden came out.
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If the NSA were like the Gestapo, you would be in prison right now. The Gestapo was tasked with rooting out political opposition and undesired religions and races. The Gestapo was given a blank check to do whatever they felt necessary in pursuit of that mission. They were placed above judicial oversight. By contrast, the NSA is subject to limitation by legislation and executive order. Their actions are reviewed by courts. Political opponents are not being rounded up and executed.
There are certainly aspects of NSA programs one might reasonably disagree with, but it's not comparable to the authority given to the Gestapo.
Have you heard of the Patriot act? That allows Indefinite detention without trial of a person...
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You asked about the NSA. The Patriot Act is certainly another thing one might reasonably object to, but let's stick to one at a time. Do you want to defend your assertion that the NSA is Nazi-like, or do you want to concede that point and move on to the Patriot Act?
With the Patriot Act the NSA is Nazi like. The Patriot Act allows the NSA to be the 'Gestapo'. Sorry for combining two points, it must be tricky for you!!
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In what way? You've got to give me something to respond to here.
I thought I did.. "That allows Indefinite detention without trial of a person."
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That's not a power of the NSA. What is it about the NSA that is Nazi-like?
The NSA can use that power, that is Nazi like. The NSA are recording all you messages, that is Nazi like.
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No, the NSA are an intelligence agency. They do not detain anyone.
No, the NSA does not record all of your messages.
They get people to do it for them.
Snowden says otherwise.
Maybe not all, but most, I admit that was an exaggeration.
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The NSA does not decide who is detained. The NSA does not "get people to do it for them". The NSA is an intelligence collection agency. They do not have police powers, and certainly cannot order someone detained. If you want to talk about detentions, that's just not an NSA issue.
Also not most. Snowden's leaked NSA documents reveal that they provide Telecoms with search criteria to restrict collection to legitimate targets (that is, non-US persons, except with a FISA warrant, and information related to foreign intelligence). They do not generally have access to raw internet data streams. There are certainly instances in which they have exceeded what I would consider to be the proper constitutional limitations, but it is not true that they are recording any significant portion of Americans' internet messages.