NATO is really a pointless group now as basically everyone it was formed to fight is a member now. Beyond that, Romania isn't enough of a player to draw a major reaction (though if we go to war with Iran you know Romania will suddenly be the US' best buddy, a la "You forgot Poland")
NATO is really a pointless group now as basically everyone it was formed to fight is a member now. Beyond that, Romania isn't enough of a player to draw a major reaction (though if we go to war with Iran you know Romania will suddenly be the US' best buddy, a la "You forgot Poland")
You know, there can always be an invocation of Article 5. They might as well have attacked the US.
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An attack against an unimportant country is still an attack. And Romania is still an ally no matter how small they are. I'm not saying we should go up in arms against Iran, but since they haven't commented we can't just let them off the hook.
The US already has more on Iran than it had on Iraq. If we were going to declare war in the near future this wouldn't push things one way or another.
Yeah, but it would be a good enough reason for the other countries to quickly get on board. It's a mistake on Iran's part and you have to exploit them to the fullest.
It's like a chess game. Iran took our Knight with the Lebanon-Israel conflict (and they did, if you closely stuidy what happen) and now it's time to take their Rook, by gaining full support from NATO.
Added: I'm not saying we should exploit Romania, but exploit Iran's aggressiveness.
Yeah, but it would be a good enough reason for the other countries to quickly get on board. It's a mistake on Iran's part and you have to exploit them to the fullest.
It's like a chess game. Iran took our Knight with the Lebanon-Israel conflict (and they did, if you closely stuidy what happen) and now it's time to take their Rook, by gaining full support from NATO.
Added: I'm not saying we should exploit Romania, but exploit Iran's aggressiveness.
Chess implies direct advantages, which a war like this does not have. Beyond that, if you want to use that image, the US versus Iranian forces are like comparing a 3-4 queen advantage game. Warfare involving the United States is about whether or not the war starts, and then it's just trying to force a Vietnam quagmire that lets you limp away. Iran loses against the US regardless of what "support" we have, and under OTHER presidents I'd agree support would matter for our initial declaration, but given Bush declared war against a majority of international opposition with less evidence of wrongdoing I highly doubt a singular attack against a small NATO member will change things much.
I think it is kind of interesting how closely this correlates with that guy's prediction that Iran would take aggressive action on Aug. 22nd which would cause "the end of the world." I'm not trying to make anything of it, I'm just pointing out the almost ironic connection. Pretty strange.
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Our world is on the brink of another world war. It will originate August 22nd in the Middle East. The prediction was presented not by Vagna or Nostradamus but by an American political scientist Bernard Lewis in the acclaimed publication of Wall Street Journal. He is a man with close ties to the Bush administration as well as to the non-conservatives pushing for the radical solution of the 'Iranian Threat.'
I would like to see Romania declare war on Iran, and invade them forthwith. Even after an official declaration of war, of which Iran would be entirely aware, the element of surprise would be Utter. Nobody would expect to be invaded by Romania, even if the Romanian say they're going to do it.
It's their secret weapon.
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It's like a chess game. Iran took our Knight with the Lebanon-Israel conflict (and they did, if you closely stuidy what happen) and now it's time to take their Rook, by gaining full support from NATO.
Added: I'm not saying we should exploit Romania, but exploit Iran's aggressiveness.
Except that the U.S. gets nukes...
That would actually be a sweet boardgame.
An attack against an unimportant country is still an attack. And Romania is still an ally no matter how small they are. I'm not saying we should go up in arms against Iran, but since they haven't commented we can't just let them off the hook.
Yes, but how should the international community respond?
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Compared to what? I think compared to chocolate ice cream, women, unicorns, and kung fu, the state pretty much sucks.
He said Iran would attack Israel, and that there would be an immediate response.
They guy is wrong. The date's just a coincidence.
Yeah, I know what was said. I was just pointing out the uncanny coincidence that the guy predicted Iran would take aggressive action (be it Israel or any other country) on Aug. 22nd, and then at almost the exact same time, they do make an aggressive move (not against Israel). Like I said, I'm not trying to make anything of it other than its strange coincidence. Oh well, weird.
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Could this develop into a war? Accelerate the push for sanctions? Note that Romania is a member of NATO.
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Romania should demand an official explaination from Iran. If they refuse to offer one, this should be treated as any other act of aggression.
It's like a chess game. Iran took our Knight with the Lebanon-Israel conflict (and they did, if you closely stuidy what happen) and now it's time to take their Rook, by gaining full support from NATO.
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Chess implies direct advantages, which a war like this does not have. Beyond that, if you want to use that image, the US versus Iranian forces are like comparing a 3-4 queen advantage game. Warfare involving the United States is about whether or not the war starts, and then it's just trying to force a Vietnam quagmire that lets you limp away. Iran loses against the US regardless of what "support" we have, and under OTHER presidents I'd agree support would matter for our initial declaration, but given Bush declared war against a majority of international opposition with less evidence of wrongdoing I highly doubt a singular attack against a small NATO member will change things much.
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He said Iran would attack Israel, and that there would be an immediate response.
They guy is wrong. The date's just a coincidence.
It's their secret weapon.
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And spake he unto all our crew:
"Go forth, and read my blog."
Except that the U.S. gets nukes...
That would actually be a sweet boardgame.
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Yeah, I know what was said. I was just pointing out the uncanny coincidence that the guy predicted Iran would take aggressive action (be it Israel or any other country) on Aug. 22nd, and then at almost the exact same time, they do make an aggressive move (not against Israel). Like I said, I'm not trying to make anything of it other than its strange coincidence. Oh well, weird.
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