MTG Salvation

Okay...Imagecrafters. New Thread. New Conversation. New Pictures. Let's get Roll Call Going....

Members:
Slavan K. Guiser- Alden
R&Doom - Mel
QuietArtist - Peter
Sterling Angel - Kris
Bristol - Ed
Elemental - Eliezer
Spiderboy4
Darksecas

Friends:
Rick Corgan- Rick
Purple D - Trent
Rayne - Milan
Rianalnn


Former Members (MIA)
Warchild - Mats
Bad Luck- Xavier (X)
El Garbo - Mike
Ozone - Alex
NightChild - Jared
Lord of Doom - Zach
And remember, this is a calm pool of tranquility. Now Post!

Hey, look, Mel's on, and there's not much in his post..... I'll come back in half an hour when he's done....

Yeah, I remember your annoying habits but you only added a little bit. I'm very disappointed in you. I mean, there was tons from the other thread you could have asked about. Damn Estonians, they're all the same.

Oh, and has anybody seen the arts from Shadowmoor? *stupid question, I know* They are so damn good! I'm shocked! I'm amazed! I'm a Virgo! I think my faith in Magic art has officially been restored. They even make the kithkin look good.

@Alden, Make sure you get Mats' first post pic as soon as it's done. I like to think it's an Imagecrafter tradition..... Cause we're SO much more creative than those other clans, hehe

Also, I think seeing people goof up would be fun..... after all, I'm the funniest person at my job, and that's just really sad.....

I'm still waiting for Rick, I thought he liked new threads.

Calm pool it is...

@Peter, we're much more creative than those other clans

@Mel: Nice to see you back. Btw, nice picture of Yawgmoth in the contest thread. Don't like it quite as much as Pete's, but it's still top-notch, natch.

@Pete: No problem on the pictures. Whenever Mats or Alex or Garbs or whoever wants to get me a pic for the front page gets it to me, I'll put it up there.

@Zach: Nice to see you here. And it is calm.

@The Shadowmoor art: HOLY ****! What a turn around. It's all FREAKING AMAZING....*Drools* The kithkin look badass, especially the female paladin by Jesper Ejsing. Whoa.

@Alden, I noticed you never did do your Top 10 for Morningtide. Are you finally admitting that the art sucked? Especially compared to what's been posted for the new set..... I hope they never try that 'experiment' again.....

@Zack, Yeah, we're creative, speaking of which though, this thread still needs it's first pic posted..... I think I have the last 300 so somebody else really should post a pic.

I have a pic for the contest in the works. A green 8.5 Tails. It's coming along alright but nothing exceptional..... ah well.... guess my level of futility in the contest will continue for another month... haha

Hmm.... nothing else to say for not..... except that for the thread title.

[Imagecrafters]isn't inactive, it's a clam pool of tranquility..... is more smooth.

Quote from Kris, who has spent too much time not online »

I'm also glad that Mel isn't dead. That reminds me - Mom got a little watermelon a while ago, and it had a 'Melonhead' sticker on it! I need to scan it and post it sometime.

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That´s good... World needs more people who think like that

Is it wrong of me that I think of killing Mel??

@Kris, I told ya it was good stuff.... Hey, aren't I supposed to be calling you in like 20 minutes??

@Danny, Don't listen to these other people about Imagecrafters. It comes from Lenscrafters.... they don't know what they're talking about..... you will probably never read this....

@Mel, That thing is just freaky cool, the extra large eyeball makes all the difference.... the splattered tree also fits really well with the 'feel' of the picture.

Anyway, not that Mel, and not me has posted I guess I can reveal my maybe finished Art contest submission.... from the "Great Minds" collection.

Improvement comments would be appreciated.

@Kris:Hi! Nice to see you posting.

@Mel: Agreed with the coolness of the animal-thing. I like it in all it's buffalo-winged-elf sorta animality. I really don't mind the grass at the bottom, it seems to fit with the rest of the background. Also, I like the fact that it seems so tightly hand-colored compared to the rest of the picture. Woooo.

@Pete: He is Green and has 8.5 tails. Nice. I do agree that the bamboo does need some work. However, I do love the fact that with all the bamboo, it _feels_ really green. Also, the hard and dark shading on the bamboo doesn't bug me...it gives the picture really good contrast against the smoother lines of 8.5 Tails. My one little nit pick is that there are some parts along the bamboo that look like they have a jagged edge, maybe from artifacts on the picture? Either way, should probably be cleaned up. And I love the ninja facemask. Reminds me of something I'd see out of the movie "House of Flying Daggers," which, incidently, has one of the best fights in a bamboo grove ever filmed.

@Zach: Nice to see you make it over to the new thread. And it varies between needing to check in two or three times a day, and not needing to check in for like a week....but still...calm pool of tranquility. Well, without Mel anyway.

@Mel: Mayan Fertility God Idols? How do you even get ahold of those things in Estonia? Better yet.......how do people even find Estonia on the map to bother killing you?

@Mel, ometimes I feel sorry for kris, she just doesn't understand the the death of some people is a good thing. Ironically, since she believes in the death pentalty.... Don't tell her thius but I'll still hold my thoughts of wanting you dead.... if only for the good of humankind.... and for the safety of the unwilling organ doners you kill in your basement....

@Alden, If ONE more person says they don't like my bamboo I'm going to freak! Seriously though, what you're seeing is the result of cut n' paste.... it's actually one bamboo shoot copied then stretched and shrunk a few times...... I just didn't blur all the edges properly... plus the 'cut' also picked up that line of white on the side.....

Although, looking at this pic I know that I'll loose yet another art contest.... I really don't know what those people are looking for.....

@Mel, CONGRATS! I guess you know what they're looking for. Can you tell me? The trophy loos good.

Hey, does anbyody else think I need a new banner??

Originally Posted by Slavan K. Guiser
@Kris:Hi! Nice to see you posting.

Wait a minute.... You're spying on my girlfriend! You sick bastard! Mel, kill him! *ahem* A brief ammendment to my beliefs, even though I don't believe in the death penalty unless some sick perv is watching my girlfriend through hidden camera's he installed in her computer with ninja like precision....

@Mel, Damn, 8.5 Tails if fully clothed, and not purple.... I'm screwed again.... and expect a new banner soon, or whenever I can get around to it..... with bunnies..... who are naked..... and purple!

@All

Well yeah, I do lurk :S I really only come to MTGS to watch the clan now, it's been a long time since I've played Magic. I've been doing competitive gaming (it's as silly as it sounds) and I recently got into hi-fi... more things to pitch $$$ into eh?

Anyways, since this is an art-based clan, I finally have some stuff to scan in as soon as I get the scanner working. I'm now in a real art class in school and at last I feel like I'm at least improving on my terrible artistic skill

@Mel: Yes, of course I'm watching Kris post. With little cameras and everything. Hey, if President Bush can spy and wiretap, why can't the president of the clan?

@Pete: I'm watching you, too, so don't feel so distraught. It's not like it's anything special. And I'm watching Mel, so I know most of his comings and goings, except you know, things in the bathroom or his basement. I just don't like the sight of blood.

@Zach: Woo! Art classes. I took some of those a long time ago....

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Oh, don´t be silly, it wouldn´t be death penalty.. Just murder... No need to make any ammendments to your beliefs...

You are SO wise

Quote from Zack »

Well yeah, I do lurk :S I really only come to MTGS to watch the clan now, it's been a long time since I've played Magic.

Look at the post histories of most of the people in this clan. It's all about the Imagecrafters and nothing else..... I still play but I was always casual, it'd be werid for me to post about magic since all those people are so serious about it.

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@Pete: I'm watching you, too, so don't feel so distraught. It's not like it's anything special. And I'm watching Mel,

Oh, well that makes me feel a whole lot better. I didn't think of it like that...
@Mel, You definetely need to kill him... I'll help! I'll do whatever it takes to make him sign over his liver.... I think it would make nice hors d'eurves at my next party

@Alden, Okay, so two people have called you a perv. Is that kinda thing common in your area????

EDIT: Final 8.5 Tails, which I'm not overly happy with

Sorry about that Mel. Next time I want somebody killed I'll make sure to use the private messaging thing. I have a feeling that you could teach me a lot when it comes to violence, murder, "natural" death, "accidents" and death penalty...

Hey, since we're on the subject, is it possible to murder somebody in warm blood? Cause there's cold blood, hot blooded (crime of passion) but is there a warm blooded murder?

Anyway, another picture..... Okay, so a LONG time ago I decided to try and do a pic straight onto the computer with my tablet but it turns out that this wasn't the greatest idea..... it ended up being a little too complicated...... what did turn out okay was the face, or at least I think, so I cut it out and now I'm posting..... so here it is, right from the tablet.....

@Mel: In general, I don't really mind watching what goes in your bedroom. *Laughs.* Usually, I just forward it to a few websites and make some money off of it when I get close to broke.

@Pete: I know it may be surprising, but my absence isn't actually from Mel having me find myself in a terrible "accident." My video card just blew up. Which is crappy, 'cause it fried my monitor as well. No more watching people anytime soon. I'm posting of a relative's laptop.

@Causing accidents: My favorite type of "accident" is to have an enemy fall down an elevator shaft. Into some bullets.

@Pete: Occasionally, I do post in other forums. Mostly, all of my Magic-related talk is limited to friends around the area. That and when I'm running events at one of the local game stores. Mainly, I come over to Sally to read the rumors and watch the Artwork forums.

And speaking of artwork: 8.5 Tails........Background looks better, but I agree, it's not overly pleasing. Still...the artifacting.....

The other picture though.....I'd actually keep doing all the work on the tablet. It looks quite good. The face is _very_ well done. The nose and lips are especially good. The hair looks a little flat, but overall.....fairly nice.

@Shadowmoor: More pretty artwork. And the return of Hybrid. In force. I'm excited.

Okay, so they've finally done it to me. The voters in the artwork contest have made me crack. 22 votes so far and I don't have any. The voting clearly isn't about art, concept, or composition. It's about what characters people liked before the contest, what's in their decks, their favorite card, or person. I don't really see the point in entering anymore.

If somebody wants to say something like "Isn't it just for fun"
Then I'll say "If it's just for fun, why is there voting?"

Now, if somebody can convince me the contest is actually about good art and concept feel free to debate me. If not you won't see me enter another one of these things.

Yes, I'm pissed off over an online contest but dammit, I work hard on the pieces I enter just to have them ignored by the vast majority of voters......

@Mel, KILL THEM ALL! Please I'll give you Strawberry Ice Cream


EDIT: @Mel, I hope you don't think I complained to get votes :p, since I just noticed you voted for me.

I have the perfect idea for the banner now..... It's gonna be a bunny in a trenchcoat but he's flashing people. and it'll say.... ummm...... well, something funny.

Anyway, pictures. There's some minor errors in all three but you get the point

@Mel, A Clan Contest?? What are those? I mean, they sound familiar but I just can't place from where. Seriously though, the voting in those contests are worse than in the art contest. At least Galspanic's pic was well done, even if it does look like the tree is exploding, but the clan contests the winner's seem to be chosen at random.

And thank you for telling me about the bunnies. I'll think differently now when I see them running around in the park. Before I just thought they were cute woodland creatures, now I know they're probably survaillance drones or something. Damn bunnies!

About killing the voters slowly, I'm all for it, but please make sure they know why they're dying before you kill them. It would seem kind of pointless if you didn't. And lucky for you that you did vote for me otherwise you would have to kill yourself.

@Alden, I'm sorry Mel is going to kill you but you didn't vote for me..... It's a real shame.

Anyway, off to draw a naked bunny exoskeleton thing.

EDIT: New Banner.... it's.. ummm.... really small..... that's weird.... the pic isn't that small, what's wrong?

EDIT 2: Finished another pic today, hmm.... maybe I'll actually get a comment on this one! Here's hopin' Old Chinese guy to pin up at my work. Ya see, we get a bunch of bonsai pots from china in and they're divided by cardboard. Every now and then we can full pictures of Chinese ads, and we save the pics. So, we started with this one guy, who we called Sven, and now everytime we find a pic, we save the pic, give them a name, and part in Sven's story. We figured Sven needed a father so I drew this guy. Hope you enjoy. Oh, and about 6 hours of work.... or something...

@Pete: No, I didn't vote for you. While I _do_ think you did an excelletn job, I just couldn't stand the pixelation in the piece.......The idea was well executed. And for some reason, I just liked the Pianna, Nomad Captain. It _felt_ woodsy and green. Personally, I just REALLY wasn't enthralled with Galspanic's entry. It was crappy and kinda...I dunno, not on theme for me. Sorry you're not entering artwork contests anymore. Frankly, I don't blame you. As for it being about creative concept and getting on theme, I feel like I often vote for that. I don't necessarily vote entirely on whether a picture is artistically the best of not, but personally, I rather go with the acurracy to the theme and the idea behind the attempt. Frankly, you're Yawgmoth kicked Ass, Mel's didn't to me.

@Mel: To answer, I'm generally open-minded. And kinda sick. I know you didn't kill my video card, 'cause I just didn't plug it back in correctly. And I didn't notice until _after_ I ordered a new one.

As for the clan contest, I don't even know what the heck 3CB is. Explanation? And sure, what the heck. Go for it.

@Kris: I wouldn't say that I'm cyber-stalking. That'd like, involve some sort of fascination. I'm more of just keeping tabs on people. I'm cyber-stalking Meelis. 'Cause, well, he's just interesting! I mean....what goes on in those bedrooms sometimes.....ROWR! ^_~

@Mel: The Truth about Bunnies? I should be very interested in that. Interesting question: My wife has claimed to have eaten bunnies. She never said anything about the exoskeletons before.....

@Pete, again: Arts:
The cute bunny exoskeleton thing is funny. I think it's a great banner. I LOL'd in my pants.

The Chinese dude looks pretty good....his left side of his head is a little weird looking...like, I don't think wrinkles ever get quite that deep or raised. His lower facial structure looks really good. Tight skin, a little withered, he looks ready to whup out some wuxia on someone.

The New Hole-y Flying Demon: I like it better than the old one. I'm not digging the face for some reason. The eyes seem off center...and it doesn't seem as detailed as the musculature for some reason. It seems a little muddled I guess. Actually, looking at it, it's the hair that's bugging me. It just doesn't lay right. It looks _very_ awkward and ragged, especially over the headband.

The Sitting Girl in Dress: The dress and face are beautiful. The shading's smooth and very nice to look at. However, some of the linkework around the outside is getting jaggies. Are your pictures artifacting really bad when you save them as .jpgs? Overall, the piece is very pleasing to look at, probably the best of the three, imo.

Ummm...not much going on with me. My compy's working again, so I can post. Without using my Wii.

That's a whole lot of information.... I'm not sure my brain can comprehend it all.... Especially the part about the bunnies.... that just rocked my world. I don't think I'll ever forget about that but I can keep secrets as well as..... umm... Mel.... The bunnies will never know.

@Alden, Jagged lines in "Cherish" are because the pic was really small to start with so the pixels coloured into it were pretty big. THe other pictures start out pretty huge then I resize them.

@Mel, It's a good thing nobody else reads Imagecrafters stuff, otherwise our murderous plot might be foiled but just to be save I think I'll leave you to your business, and I'll pay attention to the news..... Umm... art yeah, that's what we were talking about..... I used to have a lot of contrast in my drawings but it didn't look right..... I think maybe it's because I wasn't that good........ Maybe I should try and go back to that....

Bunnies!

Oh, and I just figured out the three of us are going to change the world. ... NOT take it over like most people want to do....

Ahem.

Alden
Mel
Peter = AMP We will be the 'voice' of the people in the future! If people won't listen to us Mel will kill them!

Mel
Alden
Peter = MAP We will 'show' people the way. We will be their guide in this troubled world. If people don't follow, Mel will kill them.

If the bunnies try and stand up to us! Mel will betray us because bunnies are cheap labour, working for carrots, and he will kill us!

So don't piss Mel off.

Peter.....that was the most random post since the last time Garbo posted drunk. It was Awesome. And now I have to make a new banner for AMP. I _do_ rather like my name first. And AMP sounds more rocking than MAP....really...almost everyone uses a GPS anymore, so MAP sounds so outdated....

@Mel: Bunnies are weird. I'm suddenly glad I've never eaten one. However, I've seen quite a few lately....especially around my workplace.

On Killing Me: If it's a gas leak, PLEASE make it explosive. Large enough that I make the national news and a LARGE crater. I also wanted to leave a mark on the world, it just depends on how violent my death is......

Edit: Later, Shadowmoor Arts! A preview of awesomeness.

OMG We're at the bottom (of the clan thread list, if you were wondering)

@Alden, You're just lucky I didn't use my last name to start making words.....

LAMP We, the three chosen ones LIGHT the way of the lost souls wandering the darkness

PALM... is held out to the world with peace and hope, showing no ill will to any.

Hey, I figured out that Shadowmoor isn't about the dark side of Lorwyn, or the new mechanics.... It's about CYCLES! as in I found 23.5 different cycles in this one set.

@Pete, I don't think that using the last name really helped any....The acronyms just sound...nice....now. Not cool when you're planning on ruling the world. You've got to be ruthless and conniving. And not afraid to do dirty deeds. Especially with hot models..... Or kill people, but that's Mel's Job.

Top Ten Arts of Shadowmoor!

Ballynock Cohort: Jesper Ejsing is amazing. A great addition to the MTG art team. I love how cool her armor is in this picture. It's so sdetil She's definitely got the defiant, warrior attitude about her. And it just looks great on a white card. The colors blend well, the monotone-ness works well.

Well, more tomorrow. Need sleep.

Now, the MORE!

Greater Auramancy: Chuck Lukacs is one of my new favorite artists coming in from Lorwyn. This card has a gorgeous elf on it with a beautiful color scheme. Definitely has a magical aura feel on it, making her look like a bright spot of protection in a wayyyy gloomy world.
Briarberry Cohort: Agreement with Mel on this one. Very pretty, very cool. It's been a while since Carl Critchlow's done some really cool work that I like. Usually, he's way good, but the last couple of sets have been kinda disappointing. This card's cool though.
Glamer Spinners: Again with Mel. Ejsing's just got such a unique style and a way with colors. It makes for a very unique combination on some cards. Very good.
Hungry Spriggan: Drew Tucker returns! Generally, I'd count that as a bad thing, since I didn't particularly like his early stuff. However, I LOVE the silly art of this card. I also love the fact that it looks like he's eating with Chopsticks. I LOL'd at this card.
Thistledown Liege: Can't explain why. Just like it.
Manaforge Cinder: I don't know why, but I really like the coloring on this better than any of the other cinder cards. Plus, the cinder is _very_ feminine looking, and that's cool, for some reason.
Wheel of Sun and Moon: Holy Freakin' Gorgeous. The type of work that I expect from Gabor and Szikszai.
Safehold Duo: Reminds me of Renaissance work for some reason. Just the way the bodies are painted are wonderful, they look quite realistic. Also, the back to back fighting posture works really well for the entire "duo" idea.
Mudbrawler Raiders: Ron Spencer and his crazy artwork. I laughed at them going THROUGH the mountain. And the fact that they're just absolutely ready to rip anything in front of them to shreds. Definitely Raiders.

Also, a big props and honorary mention to the "Reflection" cycle by Ron Spencer and Terese Nielsen. They are all really cool and would've taken up 5 spots in the top ten had I included them.

Alden, Alden, Alden, I'm so disappointed in you. Like I said everybody else is trying to take over the world.

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Oh, and I just figured out the three of us are going to change the world. ... NOT take it over like most people want to do....

I said we're going to CHANGE the world. And in that case the 'nice' words are more than appropriate.

@Mel, I'm confused.... do you like killing the models, cause that doesn't seem very sporting.... or do you do something else with the models.... does it involve ice cream?

@Shadowmoor Art, I'm not going to have a top ten because I think the whole set it pretty damn impressive with the exception of Heartmender... or something..... and nothing else really stood out.... I will say that the Flamey guys got the coolest art in the set......

@Pete: Are we changing the world for the better then? Well....that's not quite as fun. And yes, that does make sense why the acronyms sound happy. Also, from earlier....what's the .5 cycle you found? How can you have half a cycle with five colors? I'm confused.

@Mel: Yeah, I'm with Peter. Do you enjoy killing hot models? If so, than you're a bad, BAD man! No Ice Cream. Unless they're anorexic models, then they deserve to die, 'cause they're not hot anyway.

@Jeremy Jarvis, who is hopefully lurking in our thread: What's with all the art team-ups lately? Not that they're a bad thing, 'cause you're getting some really awesome art on cards that way. I've just noticed an increase of them in the sets since...oh...Time Spiral foreward? I'm a huge fan of them, keep them coming. What I'd really like to see is maybe a collaboration between one of the Japanese artists and a mainstay like Post or Walker.