If you go on Chapters' Indigo site right now, you can get almost all of his short stories and poems and other written works, in a really attractive looking hardcover for only about 24 bucks (and free shipping if you get another buck's worth of stuff!) Figured I'd share the fact it's on sale since it costs about as much as a pair of Temple of Malady and will probably get ya a fair bit more enjoyment! Just look up Necronomicon
For those who already have this or have read his stuff before or follow it in any way, Lovecraft general chat?
1. What would you think of a movie of Mountains of Madness?
2. Favourite Lovecraft story that rarely gets any attention?
3. Are Re-Animator and From Beyond due for a remake or would they be trashed in a modern Hollywood setting?
I have been reading Lovecraft since high school (31 now). While I enjoy his stories, they are not something I find myself going back to reread very often. It is funny to me how easy it is to buy compiled copies of his stories now compared to when I started reading his work. Back then you could only buy very small paperbacks with half a dozen or so stories in each, and you often had to special order them (unless you lucked out with a find in a used book store).
I am kind of iffy on any Lovecraft based movie. It is hard to really do the impossibilities of his writings visual justice, however if anyone could accomplish it, it would be Del Toro.
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1) Never read the story, because I'm still working through my own copy of collected works.
2) The Colour out of Space, admittedly because Die Farbe was so good.
3) They would probably do fine, but I'd prefer movies of unfilmed stories to remakes of older material.
4) When Charles Stross is on a horror kick he can do a passable imitation.
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Huh, never heard of Charles Stross, thanks for the recommendation!
I REALLY like your mention of Del Toro as a Lovecraft director, I can really really see that working. My prior picks were Darren Aronofsky for his ability to portray emotion and the degradation of sanity, which is an internal element, and maybe Danny Boyle for how well he did horror and drama in 28 Days Later, but Del Toro is probably a frontrunner now, personally. I guess I should answer my own questions, whoops;
I want the "Mountains of Madness" movie, because I think IF done properly it would be the kind of boat-rocking, genre changing feature that Night of the Living Dead and The Shining were,
I think the vagueness of "The Statement of Randolph Carter" is really exciting but I guess that's quickly becoming a figurehead piece of his,
From Beyond could use an update because it's very visual and intense, and if someone with enough attention to detail (Joss Whedon maybe) redid it nowadays, the spectacle would be really cool, but Re-Animator's "feel" keeps it relevant in my opinion,
And I've never found anyone too closely related in writing stylistics, but anywhere that I can plug Cormac McCarthy one more time is fine by me!
I REALLY like your mention of Del Toro as a Lovecraft director, I can really really see that working. My prior picks were Darren Aronofsky for his ability to portray emotion and the degradation of sanity, which is an internal element, and maybe Danny Boyle for how well he did horror and drama in 28 Days Later, but Del Toro is probably a frontrunner now, personally.
I believe Del Toro was mentioned because he actually was attached to a Mountains of Madness film project that was apparently canceled because it would be released so close to Ridley Scott's Prometheus. Del Toro seems still to be interested, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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For more recent writing in a Lovecraftian vein there is The New Cthulthu which an anthology of short stories by assorted authors all influenced by the Mythos to a greater or lesser extent.
A Couple like Pickman's other model could almost be direct sequels of some of Lovecraft's original stories.
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1. Meh. I don't think a movie could really do the Cthulu mythos justice.
Having said that, I have my fingers crossed the Dr. Strange MCU movie is going to be just that. They don't have a horror movie, and they want movies of all genres.
2. The Thing on the Doorstep was honestly the only story I read while writing a paper on his works that legitimately freaked me out. I have no idea why.
3. What?
4. No clue.
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Certain stories could very well be adapted into films. For instance, I think "The Picture in the House" would be fun as a short film. The end is such a great moment.
The problem is a lot of Lovecraft's stories involve the character meeting something incomprehensible, whose very appearance would shatter a person's sanity, which you can describe with words but obviously cannot depict in film.
It's a weird reversal really. The rule for most works is "show, don't tell," but Lovecraft often tells but does not show.
As for people like Lovecraft, there's a lot of good cosmic horror out there. Actually, the thing that immediately comes to mind is an episode of The Twilight Zone, "Little Girl Lost."
Now, has anyone here read anything by Thomas Ligotti? Apparently the guy's an amazing horror writer who is very influenced by Lovecraft, but I've yet to read any of his stuff.
I used to like Ligotti a lot (stories like the Mystics of Mulenburg, In a Foreign Town..., etc) but when I finally got around to reading Bruno Schulz I realized how derivative Ligotti is. The Poles were doing that dark, magical realist stuff a long time ago.
I really recommend Bruno Schulz' Street of Crocodiles, and Satnislaw Ignacy Witkiewicz' Insatiability. Both have had (problematic) film adaptations made, for those disinterested in reading the books.
1) Awesome
2) The Festival, the setting and transformation that happens have always stuck in my mind. The Colour Out of Space is my favourite though.
3) They still hold up, no need for a remake.
4) Thomas Ligotti, Clark Ashton Smith, Scott Nicolay, Nathan Ballingrud, Simon Strantzas
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For those who already have this or have read his stuff before or follow it in any way, Lovecraft general chat?
1. What would you think of a movie of Mountains of Madness?
2. Favourite Lovecraft story that rarely gets any attention?
3. Are Re-Animator and From Beyond due for a remake or would they be trashed in a modern Hollywood setting?
4. Favourite authors you could compare to him?
I am kind of iffy on any Lovecraft based movie. It is hard to really do the impossibilities of his writings visual justice, however if anyone could accomplish it, it would be Del Toro.
― Anthony Bourdain, Kitchen Confidential
I will always firmly stand by the belief that Magic is a game first and a collectable second.
2) The Colour out of Space, admittedly because Die Farbe was so good.
3) They would probably do fine, but I'd prefer movies of unfilmed stories to remakes of older material.
4) When Charles Stross is on a horror kick he can do a passable imitation.
Art is life itself.
I REALLY like your mention of Del Toro as a Lovecraft director, I can really really see that working. My prior picks were Darren Aronofsky for his ability to portray emotion and the degradation of sanity, which is an internal element, and maybe Danny Boyle for how well he did horror and drama in 28 Days Later, but Del Toro is probably a frontrunner now, personally. I guess I should answer my own questions, whoops;
I want the "Mountains of Madness" movie, because I think IF done properly it would be the kind of boat-rocking, genre changing feature that Night of the Living Dead and The Shining were,
I think the vagueness of "The Statement of Randolph Carter" is really exciting but I guess that's quickly becoming a figurehead piece of his,
From Beyond could use an update because it's very visual and intense, and if someone with enough attention to detail (Joss Whedon maybe) redid it nowadays, the spectacle would be really cool, but Re-Animator's "feel" keeps it relevant in my opinion,
And I've never found anyone too closely related in writing stylistics, but anywhere that I can plug Cormac McCarthy one more time is fine by me!
candidus inperti; si nil, his utere mecum.
For more recent writing in a Lovecraftian vein there is The New Cthulthu which an anthology of short stories by assorted authors all influenced by the Mythos to a greater or lesser extent.
A Couple like Pickman's other model could almost be direct sequels of some of Lovecraft's original stories.
- H.L Mencken
I Became insane with long Intervals of horrible Sanity
All Religion, my friend is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination and poetry.
- Edgar Allan Poe
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Having said that, I have my fingers crossed the Dr. Strange MCU movie is going to be just that. They don't have a horror movie, and they want movies of all genres.
2. The Thing on the Doorstep was honestly the only story I read while writing a paper on his works that legitimately freaked me out. I have no idea why.
3. What?
4. No clue.
The problem is a lot of Lovecraft's stories involve the character meeting something incomprehensible, whose very appearance would shatter a person's sanity, which you can describe with words but obviously cannot depict in film.
It's a weird reversal really. The rule for most works is "show, don't tell," but Lovecraft often tells but does not show.
As for people like Lovecraft, there's a lot of good cosmic horror out there. Actually, the thing that immediately comes to mind is an episode of The Twilight Zone, "Little Girl Lost."
Now, has anyone here read anything by Thomas Ligotti? Apparently the guy's an amazing horror writer who is very influenced by Lovecraft, but I've yet to read any of his stuff.
I really recommend Bruno Schulz' Street of Crocodiles, and Satnislaw Ignacy Witkiewicz' Insatiability. Both have had (problematic) film adaptations made, for those disinterested in reading the books.
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2) The Festival, the setting and transformation that happens have always stuck in my mind. The Colour Out of Space is my favourite though.
3) They still hold up, no need for a remake.
4) Thomas Ligotti, Clark Ashton Smith, Scott Nicolay, Nathan Ballingrud, Simon Strantzas
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