If you're not using them for their bodies, your best bet is going to be using them as sources of card advantage. The first one you play potentially gets you +3 card advantage, which can be pretty big. You obviously need to DO something with those cards to make them worth more than just an overpriced 1/1 or 2/2, but there's some options out there. Cards like Scroll Rack, Brainstorm, and Jace, the Mind Sculptor are some of your strongest options.
Let's say you start from just two cards in hand: One Hawk, and one Brainstorm/Jace. You play the Hawk and get three more Hawks out of your deck. You then play the Brainstorm or Jace and +0, drawing three cards and putting two Hawks back. Finally, you play the fourth Hawk, getting the other two Hawks back out of your deck. You end up with five cards in hand, which is a pretty huge swing.
It gets even swingier when you start using Scroll Rack and ways to flicker our bounce your first Hawk. A setup of Squadron Hawk, Conjuror's Closet, and Scroll Rack means you can activate Rack to draw an additional three cards putting three Hawks back on your deck, then flicker the Hawk to re-find those same three Hawks, resulting in drawing three extra cards every single turn.
If you actually want to use them as a wincon without using equipment or auras, mass buffs like Cathars' Crusade or Beastmaster Ascension, Overrun effects, or tribal buffs like Kangee, Aerie Keeper/Soulcatcher's Aerie, any of the vampire or elf lords for Conquistador or Sentinel, any of the wolf tribal stuff for Howling Wolf, etc are going to be your best bet.
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No not really, specifically playing a single creature to fetch up the rest, as an *enters the battlefield* effect. Having to get around summoning sickness and tapping hem for the effect isn't where I wanna be.
Now, they're both soldiers, so Preeminent Captain, Daru Warchief, Ballyrush Banneret, Militia Bugler, Mentor of the Meek and friends work here.
I feel we have better soldiers to choose from, especially in Boros colours, however this is card advantage in colours that don't typically have many card draw options. Soldiers could easily use these in the mid-game into a lategame Finale of Glory.
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Just curious if anyone has found a use for creatures that fetch ALL their mates in the deck, outside of equipment or aura decks.
Think Squadron Hawk, Legion Conquistador, Howling Wolf, Nesting Wurm, Skyshroud Sentinel etc.
If there's any I've missed please add them to the thread!
Of course there are others that are far more mana-intensive like Growth-Chamber Guardian, but this type isn't really what I'm thinking.
Just wondering if anyone has found a strategy or something genuinely cool, with these sorts of creatures.
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StaffLet's say you start from just two cards in hand: One Hawk, and one Brainstorm/Jace. You play the Hawk and get three more Hawks out of your deck. You then play the Brainstorm or Jace and +0, drawing three cards and putting two Hawks back. Finally, you play the fourth Hawk, getting the other two Hawks back out of your deck. You end up with five cards in hand, which is a pretty huge swing.
It gets even swingier when you start using Scroll Rack and ways to flicker our bounce your first Hawk. A setup of Squadron Hawk, Conjuror's Closet, and Scroll Rack means you can activate Rack to draw an additional three cards putting three Hawks back on your deck, then flicker the Hawk to re-find those same three Hawks, resulting in drawing three extra cards every single turn.
Other options for turning extra copies into "real" cards include discard outlets like Vivien's Arkbow, Survival of the Fittest, Fauna Shaman or looters like Merfolk Looter, Faithless Looting, Jace, Vryn's Prodigy, etc. Wheel of Sun and Moon, Loaming Shaman, Battlefield Scrounger and others can recycle discarded copies into your deck to fetch again and again.
If you actually want to use them as a wincon without using equipment or auras, mass buffs like Cathars' Crusade or Beastmaster Ascension, Overrun effects, or tribal buffs like Kangee, Aerie Keeper/Soulcatcher's Aerie, any of the vampire or elf lords for Conquistador or Sentinel, any of the wolf tribal stuff for Howling Wolf, etc are going to be your best bet.
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No not really, specifically playing a single creature to fetch up the rest, as an *enters the battlefield* effect. Having to get around summoning sickness and tapping hem for the effect isn't where I wanna be.
This is more what I was thinking. Obviously the white options here in Squadron Hawk & Legion Conquistador are more viable, given white has options like Sunscour & Force of Virtue.
Scroll Rack, Brainstorm etc. looks like a fun idea. I'll have to do a bit of digging here and see if it's worth the effort.
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Now, they're both soldiers, so Preeminent Captain, Daru Warchief, Ballyrush Banneret, Militia Bugler, Mentor of the Meek and friends work here.
I feel we have better soldiers to choose from, especially in Boros colours, however this is card advantage in colours that don't typically have many card draw options. Soldiers could easily use these in the mid-game into a lategame Finale of Glory.