This is a competitive Karador deck, focused on filling my graveyard up with creatures and spitting them back up on the table.
Originally this deck contained several infinite combos. Turns out, they're only fun the first time you do them. However, there is still a lot of synergy.
Skullclamp works well with any of the one toughness cards who have outlived their purpose.
As far as puking goes, as long as you've got a sac outlet in play (so you don't have to exile), it doesn't get much better than Corpse Dance for repeatedly abusing etb/ltb abilities. Phyrexian Tower and High Market can help with that. Grim Backwoods to a lesser degreee.
Thanks Blackjack68, I appreciate the suggestions! I'm in the process of getting a High Market, that one is a very good call. I'll keep my eyes open for the others as trades.
I think over single use instants you should consider creature based removal and instant speed ways of getting etb effects like Nim deathmantle, Chord of calling, and pattern of rebirth. Ashnod's altar is one of the best and most combo-ey sac outlets ever. Mana source sac outlets also can be used while split second is on the stack making some crazy good shenanigans possible.
If you can have a banned card, why not protean hulk or recurring nightmare? Cards that are much more self sufficiently awesome even if you aren't breaking them completely.
edit: Gaddock is strong if you like that sort of card, Dark ritual is a big no no in EDH
Thank you very much for your comment! I have an Ashnod's Altar (not in the deck atm), is it worth it to run both that and Phyrexian Altar?
Having thought about it, I'm not a big fan of stasis effects, so I'm not sure I'll run Gaddock. I do really like Pattern of Rebirth, so I'll start searching for one!
I edited the deck to take out the Fastbond combo. After play testing the deck some, I came to the conclusion I foresaw and that you and others have echoed: it requires a number of other cards to break out, its not much fun (and illegal) and if I have the resources to go searching, I'd rather play with creatures! No more banned cards in this deck!
Removed Saffi Eriksdotter in favor for Oblation. Saffi was not necessary for a combo, and having instant removal (that can be used on my own guy in a pinch) is much better in my opinion.
Consider Deathrender Puts a lot of stuff in the graveyard and digs really deep for answers, or combo pieces.
Also is pretty cool in general. I've been quite satisfied with it and have already used it to enough effect that people have exiled it. That's a good sign that an artifact is working where I play.
Removed most of the one-off reanimation spells as Karador doesn't really need them. Added some more digging, namely Chord of Calling and Green Sun's Zenith.
Starting to move away from the infinite combo, because it's lost its fun. Infinite combos by themselves aren't the end of the world, but with a deck that tutors as much as this one, the game always plays out the exact same way, which is boring.
Originally this deck contained several infinite combos. Turns out, they're only fun the first time you do them. However, there is still a lot of synergy.
1 Karador, Ghost Chieftan
Creatures (32)
1 Academy Rector
1 Acidic Slime
1 Angel of Despair
1 Ashen Rider
1 Bane of Progress
1 Bone Shredder
1 Disciple of Bolas
1 Disciple of Griselbrand
1 Eternal Witness
1 Farhaven Elf
1 Fierce Empath
1 Fleshbag Maruader
1 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
1 Karmic Guide
1 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Krosan Tusker
1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
1 Mindslicer
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Puppeteer Clique
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Reveillark
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Sun Titan
1 Sylvan Primordial
1 Wood Elves
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Yosei, the Morning Star
1 Animate Dead
1 Aura Shards
1 Defense of the Heart
1 Gift of Immortality
1 Greater Good
1 Mirari's Wake
1 Pattern of Rebirth
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Sylvan Library
Sorcery (7)
1 Austere Command
1 Buried Alive
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Diabolic Intent
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Nature's Lore
1 Wrath of God
Artifacts (4)
1 Birthing Pod
1 Sensei's Diving Top
1 Skullclamp
1 Sol Ring
Instant (9)
1 Beast Within
1 Eladamri's Call
1 Entomb
1 Mortify
1 Oblation
1 Path to Exile
1 Putrefy
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Unexpectedly Absent
1 Bayou
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Command Tower
1 Dust Bowl
8 Forest
1 Godless Shrine
1 High Market
1 Krosan Verge
1 Marsh Flats
1 Murmuring Bosk
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Phyrexian Tower
3 Plains
1 Savannah
1 Scrubland
1 Strip Mine
1 Sunpetal Grove
4 Swamp
1 Tectonic Edge
1 Temple Garden
1 Temple of the False God
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Vesuva
1 Windswept Heath
What follows if a break down by purpose
1 Entomb
2 Survival of the Fittest
3 Buried Alive
Throw it back up - spells
2 Animate Dead
Throw it back up - creatures
3 Eternal Witness
5 Karmic Guide
5 Puppeteer Clique
5 Reveillark
6 Sun Titan
7 Sheoldred, Whispering One
8 Karador, Ghost Chieftain
Card Draw
1 Sensei's Diving Top
1 Skullclamp
2 Sylvan Library
4 Disciple of Bolas
4 Greater Good
Tutors
2 Demonic Tutor
2 Diabolic Intent
2 Eladamri's Call
3 Fierce Empath
4 Academy Rector
4 Birthing Pod
4 Defense of the Heart
4 Pattern of Rebirth
7 Rune-Scarred Demon
0 Temple of the False God
1 Sol Ring
2 Nature's Lore
2 Sakura-Tribe Elder
3 Farhaven Elf
3 Knight of the Reliquary
3 Wood Elves
3 Yavimaya Elder
4 Oracle of Mul Daya
4 Solemn Simulacrum
5 Mirari's Wake
7 Krosan Tusker
Hand Disruption
4 Mindslicer
Removal
1 Path to Exile
1 Swords to Plowshares
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Unexpectedly Absent
3 Aura Shards
3 Beast Within
3 Bone Shredder
3 Fleshbag Marauder
3 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Mortify
3 Oblation
3 Pernicious Deed
3 Putrefy
4 Wrath of God
5 Acidic Slime
6 Austere Command
6 Bane of Progress
7 Angel of Despair
7 Sylvan Primordial
8 Ashen Rider
6 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
Powerup and/or combo pieces
3 Gift of Immortality
6 Kokusho, the Evening Star
6 Yosei, the Morning Star
Utility Lands
0 Vesuva
Graveyard Kill
0 Bojuka Bog
Land Kill
0 Dust Bowl
0 Strip Mine
0 Tectonic Edge
Sacrifice Outlet
0 High Market
0 Phyrexian Tower
2 Disciple of Griselbrand
4 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Suggestions are really appreciated.
December 21, 2013
1 Ashen Rider
1 Bane of Progress
1 Bone Shredder
1 Disciple of Griselbrand
1 Gift of Immortality
1 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
1 Unexpectedly Absent
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Deathrender
1 Expedition Map
1 Flagstones of Trokair
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Tooth and Nail
1 Woodfall Primus
August 9, 2013
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Yavimaya Dryad
July 19, 2013
1x Dust Bowl
1x Fleshbag Marauder
1x Forest
1x Knight of the Reliquary
1x Mindslicer
1x Nature's Lore
1x Phyrexian Tower
1x Qasali Pridemage
1x Tectonic Edge
1x Temple of the False God
1x Vesuva
1x Chord of Calling
1x Deathrender
1x Dryad Arbor
1x Enlightened Tutor
1x Fauna Shaman
1x Gaze of Granite
1x Golgari Rot Farm
1x Orzhov Basilica
1x Saffi Eriksdotter
1x Stoneforge Mystic
1x Thespian's Stage
1 Austere Command
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Fierce Empath
1 Forest
1 High Market
1 Murmuring Bosk
1 Swamp
1 Defense of the Heart
1 Phyrexian Altar
1 Mortify
1 Putrefy
1 Thespian's Stage
1 Angel of Despair
1 Beast Within
1 Oblation
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Elbrus, the Binding Blade
1 Eladamri's Call
1 Swamp
1 Deathrender
1 Plains
1 Mortify
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Pattern of Rebirth
1 Chord of Calling
1 Disciple of Bolas
1 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
1 Mirari's Wake
1 Saffi Eriksdotter
1 Sol Ring
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Sylvan Library
1 Puppeteer Clique
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Gaze of Granite
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Yosei, the Morning Star
1 Reanimate
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Swiftfoot Boots
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Rupture Spire
1 Tainted Field
1 Tainted Wood
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Rampaging Baloths
1 Fastbond
1 Zuran Orb
1 Saffi Eriksdotter
1 Perilous Myr
1 Worldly Tutor
1 Mortify
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Twilight Mire
1 Woodland Cemetery
1 Elbrus, the Binding Blade
1 Putrid Imp
1 Greenseeker
1 Silverglade Pathfinder
1 Hell's Caretaker
1 Mirror Entity
1 Necromancy
1 Exhume
1 Life from the Loam
1 Reanimate
1 Victimize
1 Selesnya Sanctuary
1 Unearth
1 Phyrexian Altar
1 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Living Death
1 Triskelion
1 Viscera Seer
1 Bloodghast
1 Vampire Hexmage
1 Dark Depths
Nekusar, the Mindrazer
As far as puking goes, as long as you've got a sac outlet in play (so you don't have to exile), it doesn't get much better than Corpse Dance for repeatedly abusing etb/ltb abilities.
Phyrexian Tower and High Market can help with that. Grim Backwoods to a lesser degreee.
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Contemplating adding either Krosan Grip or Beast Within and Angel of Despair. Thoughts on these?
For these, I think I will take out Zuran Orb and Fastbond. They're just too mean and technically illegal!
Thoughts on adding a Gaddock Teeg? I think I have too many expensive spells...
Nekusar, the Mindrazer
If you can have a banned card, why not protean hulk or recurring nightmare? Cards that are much more self sufficiently awesome even if you aren't breaking them completely.
edit: Gaddock is strong if you like that sort of card, Dark ritual is a big no no in EDH
Thank you very much for your comment! I have an Ashnod's Altar (not in the deck atm), is it worth it to run both that and Phyrexian Altar?
Having thought about it, I'm not a big fan of stasis effects, so I'm not sure I'll run Gaddock. I do really like Pattern of Rebirth, so I'll start searching for one!
I edited the deck to take out the Fastbond combo. After play testing the deck some, I came to the conclusion I foresaw and that you and others have echoed: it requires a number of other cards to break out, its not much fun (and illegal) and if I have the resources to go searching, I'd rather play with creatures! No more banned cards in this deck!
Nekusar, the Mindrazer
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Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Since you already have Greater Good and just added Stoneforge mystic...
Consider Deathrender Puts a lot of stuff in the graveyard and digs really deep for answers, or combo pieces.
Also is pretty cool in general. I've been quite satisfied with it and have already used it to enough effect that people have exiled it. That's a good sign that an artifact is working where I play.
Removed Vampiric Tutor, Twilight Mire and Woodland Cemetery for use in another deck.
Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Also added Disciple of Bolas for draw, Sol Ring and Mirari's Wake for ramp, Saffi Eriksdotter for recursion, Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord because, he's awesome!
Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Taking out infinite sac outlets and Triskelion for utility cards like Sylvan Library, Sensei's Diving Top and Puppeteer Clique.
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Nekusar, the Mindrazer
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