MTG Salvation

Intro: This Deck was designed to combo out fast and in doing so beat all of your opponents and once. Like all combo decks, this one also requires a few cards together to do the job, however; with the amount of control and card draw you have in this deck, the odds are in your favor that you are going to combo out before someone else can or control the board so bad, you make your opponents scoop. Input and Insight always helpful.

Combos: Azami + Mind over matter, infinite draw + Laboratory Maniac. Palinchron + any mana doubler = infinite mana. Words of wind + Spellbook and wizards = bounce. Intruder alarm + wizards = a crazy amount of draw. Omniscience + Azami and a few other wizards = win

Your missing knowledge pool for the teferi lock. That's practically a mono blue staple


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How often do you actually win with the Palinchron combo? It seems expensive for a deck with so little ramp. In my Azame list, I've cut every six+ CMC spell except for Mind Over Matter, simply because they're too slow. If you do hit enough mana to be casting such huge spells, wouldn't you be better off casting multiple spells a turn, or leaving up countermagic? In my group, at least, Azame draws so much hate that I simply can't run her out until I hit seven mana to have counter backup.

Also, Kira, Great Glass-Spinner and Lightning Greaves seem like a bit of a non-bo with your general, given that a key win condition is MoM. True, if you have Mind Over Matter you can combo off through a Kira by discarding a card, but it seems clunky. In my experience, many games are won or lost by having the one extra card to either untap a land and counter a spell, or else combo out over top of whatever is on the stack that I don't want to deal with.

Lastly, have you considered upping the land count? I've found that, even with a curve that ends at six, Azame always seems to want more land. If you can hit 5-7 mana on curve, that is fantastic. If not, you still want to hit it as fast as possible, and then keep going to be able to cast all of the lovely spells you'll be drawing into.

The good thing about Kira, Great Glass-Spinner is that she give you time to build and makes your combo pieces MUCH harder to get rid of.

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How often do you actually win with the Palinchron combo? It seems expensive for a deck with so little ramp. In my Azame list, I've cut every six+ CMC spell except for Mind Over Matter, simply because they're too slow. If you do hit enough mana to be casting such huge spells, wouldn't you be better off casting multiple spells a turn, or leaving up countermagic? In my group, at least, Azame draws so much hate that I simply can't run her out until I hit seven mana to have counter backup.

Also, Kira, Great Glass-Spinner and Lightning Greaves seem like a bit of a non-bo with your general, given that a key win condition is MoM. True, if you have Mind Over Matter you can combo off through a Kira by discarding a card, but it seems clunky. In my experience, many games are won or lost by having the one extra card to either untap a land and counter a spell, or else combo out over top of whatever is on the stack that I don't want to deal with.

Lastly, have you considered upping the land count? I've found that, even with a curve that ends at six, Azame always seems to want more land. If you can hit 5-7 mana on curve, that is fantastic. If not, you still want to hit it as fast as possible, and then keep going to be able to cast all of the lovely spells you'll be drawing into.

I appreciate the feed back on this, but let me start with palinchron, IMO this card is a blue staple. even if I don't have a mana doubler using colorless artifact mana to untap blue lands is never bad. You can leave mana open to block and bounce if you need to block those pesky flyers and if you do have a mana doubler, which I think there are 4 in this deck is all it's a win. I think it's worth running in most blue decks for these reasons. Second, Kira, Great Glass-Spinner with as many creatures as I have makes it so you don't need to leave counter magic open really, and the majority of the counter spells I run in this deck can be played w/o having any mana open anyways. Plus I can counter with creatures like daring apprentice, or patron wizard which will pretty much hault the game if you get patron wizard out, because it forces your opponents to play bait spells alot. Personally, I've never found it to be a problem with Kira on the board when I draw into MoM because I have other win cons. Plus, Kira doesn't hurt your curve at all. Lastly, the lands situation I would normally agree with you because I like to run about 37+ lands, but with it being mono, and having the artifact mana that I have in this deck, I haven't found it to be a problem.

No Jace of any kind?
That's a bit surprising.