When Griselbrand was first spoiled, he blew my mind. He is easily one of the most powerful creatures ever printed, and I can use him as my general?? Where do I sign up?
The first thing that came to mind was to build a big mana mono black deck with him as the leader. That way you can cast him super easily, and his only disadvantage disappears. In addition to that, you can draw a ton of cards once he hits the board, and cast a ton of them immediately since you will have so much mana.
Let's just get one thing straight. I do NOT want this to be a combo deck. I have seen Gaka's list, and while that is quite abusive, it's just not my play style. I want this deck to be both powerful and fun - for me and everyone else at the table.
I am mainly looking for suggestions here. My list is incomplete, and I still have 5 slots that need to be filled. I have been looking around, and I haven't really been able to find anything else that goes with this deck that also fits my play style. I also have never built mono black before, so I don't really know what I'm looking for to fill out this deck. If anything, it seems like it might be a bit lacking on powerful and synergistic cards. Anyway, here is the list.
I believe that I have enough social competence to slip into a party or two, potentially wooing some attractive females that would not mind spending the evening performing the booty dance on me.
I don't really like infernal darkness because it ends up eating all your mana and life after a while. Besides, I have reassembling skeleton and bitterblossom in here, and those create permanent locks unlike infernal darkness.
I believe that I have enough social competence to slip into a party or two, potentially wooing some attractive females that would not mind spending the evening performing the booty dance on me.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't really like your approach either. The accel is good, but your curve in general is too high. All is Dust is good, but you'd be better off just running stuff like Ensnaring Bridge and/or a good blocker like Edrekt then go the Stax route with Braids, Smokestack, Abyss/Nether Void and just lock them out. I think Yawgwin & Dark Ritual should be in there too along with Leyline of the Void, it's just too good not to have it shuts ppl down. Skulpting Steel should be in there too. That's bout all I got off the top of my head, give it some thought.
Yeah, definitely not looking to go the combo route. Zuran orb seems a bit unnecessary. I've definitely considered graveborn muse, but it is already slower than arena, and my general provides a ton of draw power as it is. It could make it in, we'll have to see.
I like you list a lot more than the one Gaka made. It's more similiar on how I plan to play Griselbrand in Commander. Any reason you are not playing Liliana Vess? Her -2 is universally useful imho.
I'd also play some if not all the cards BlackVise mentioned. Especially the rituals, the Muse and Rain of Filth.
Liliana vess is too slow. She is usually a 5 mana sorcery speed vampiric tutor, which is not what I'm looking for.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't really like your approach either. The accel is good, but your curve in general is too high. All is Dust is good, but you'd be better off just running stuff like Ensnaring Bridge and/or a good blocker like Edrekt then go the Stax route with Braids, Smokestack, Abyss/Nether Void and just lock them out. I think Yawgwin & Dark Ritual should be in there too along with Leyline of the Void, it's just too good not to have it shuts ppl down. Skulpting Steel should be in there too. That's bout all I got off the top of my head, give it some thought.
Yeah to be honest, I'm not going to go the stax route. It just isn't my play style. The only suggestions I really like are duplicant and sundering titan. I already own sundering titan, I'll have to see if I can find a duplicant.
I believe that I have enough social competence to slip into a party or two, potentially wooing some attractive females that would not mind spending the evening performing the booty dance on me.
Heartless Summoning - actually isn't great for your deck since you run BB. I have a few more fatties in my Griselbrand deck tho so it's been working great as mono-black ramp.
Kagemaro, First to Suffer - gets quite large once Griselbrand starts doing his thing and the massive wrath is quite welcome since it deals with indestructible creatures.
Heartless Summoning - actually isn't great for your deck since you run BB. I have a few more fatties in my Griselbrand deck tho so it's been working great as mono-black ramp.
Kagemaro, First to Suffer - gets quite large once Griselbrand starts doing his thing and the massive wrath is quite welcome since it deals with indestructible creatures.
I'm really trying to cut down on the number of non-swamps in this deck, to get the most out of coffers and mana doublers.
Yeah, sword of war and peace seems good. It's still relatively expensive though... might have to wait until it rotates to pick up a copy.
Kagemaro is a conditional wrath that will also end up killing Griselbrand... I already have enough good wraths in here.
I believe that I have enough social competence to slip into a party or two, potentially wooing some attractive females that would not mind spending the evening performing the booty dance on me.
I believe that I have enough social competence to slip into a party or two, potentially wooing some attractive females that would not mind spending the evening performing the booty dance on me.
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The first thing that came to mind was to build a big mana mono black deck with him as the leader. That way you can cast him super easily, and his only disadvantage disappears. In addition to that, you can draw a ton of cards once he hits the board, and cast a ton of them immediately since you will have so much mana.
Let's just get one thing straight. I do NOT want this to be a combo deck. I have seen Gaka's list, and while that is quite abusive, it's just not my play style. I want this deck to be both powerful and fun - for me and everyone else at the table.
I am mainly looking for suggestions here. My list is incomplete, and I still have 5 slots that need to be filled. I have been looking around, and I haven't really been able to find anything else that goes with this deck that also fits my play style. I also have never built mono black before, so I don't really know what I'm looking for to fill out this deck. If anything, it seems like it might be a bit lacking on powerful and synergistic cards. Anyway, here is the list.
1 Griselbrand
Creatures:
1 Reassembling skeleton
1 Graveborn muse
1 Solemn simulacrum
1 Drana, kalastria bloodchief
1 Nirkana revenant
1 Geth, lord of the vault
1 Duplicant
1 Myojin of night's reach
1 Sundering titan
Instant:
1 Vampiric tutor
1 Rend flesh
Sorcery:
1 Bubbling muck
1 Demonic tutor
1 Praetor's grasp
1 Diabolic tutor
1 Damnation
1 Mutilate
1 All is dust
1 Decree of pain
1 Black sun's zenith
1 Consuming vapors
1 Sever the bloodline
1 Exanguinate
1 Profane command
1 Mind twist
1 Promise of power
1 Army of the damned
1 Sol ring
1 Expedition map
1 Jet medallion
1 Doubling cube
1 Extraplanar lens
1 Mind stone
1 Coalition relic
1 Gilded lotus
1 Gauntlet of power
1 Caged sun
1 Sensei's divining top
1 Brittle effigy
1 Oblivion stone
1 Nevinyrral's disk
1 Lightning greaves
1 Darksteel plate
1 Sword of feast and famine
1 Lashwrithe
1 Ivory tower
1 Venser's journal
1 Soul conduit
Enchantment:
1 Animate dead
1 Bitterblossom
1 Necropotence
1 Phyrexian arena
1 Greed
1 Words of waste
1 Contamination
1 Descent into madness
1 Sorin markov
Land: (37)
1 Cabal coffers
1 Vesuva
1 Urborg, tomb of yawgmoth
1 Cavern of souls
1 Strip mine
1 Reliquary tower
1 Volrath's stronghold
30 Swamp
So, any suggestions on what to add would be helpful, and if anything looks out of place, feel free to explain why.
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I don't really like infernal darkness because it ends up eating all your mana and life after a while. Besides, I have reassembling skeleton and bitterblossom in here, and those create permanent locks unlike infernal darkness.
RUG Riku, Two is Better Than One
UB [PRIMER] Wrexial, Classic Control
RG Radha, Ramp's Theme Goes With Everything
Guardian Beast - protect you against Deed/Disk
Mindslicer
Graveborn Muse
Duplicant
Sundering Titan
etc.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't really like your approach either. The accel is good, but your curve in general is too high. All is Dust is good, but you'd be better off just running stuff like Ensnaring Bridge and/or a good blocker like Edrekt then go the Stax route with Braids, Smokestack, Abyss/Nether Void and just lock them out. I think Yawgwin & Dark Ritual should be in there too along with Leyline of the Void, it's just too good not to have it shuts ppl down. Skulpting Steel should be in there too. That's bout all I got off the top of my head, give it some thought.
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Yeah, definitely not looking to go the combo route. Zuran orb seems a bit unnecessary. I've definitely considered graveborn muse, but it is already slower than arena, and my general provides a ton of draw power as it is. It could make it in, we'll have to see.
Liliana vess is too slow. She is usually a 5 mana sorcery speed vampiric tutor, which is not what I'm looking for.
Yeah to be honest, I'm not going to go the stax route. It just isn't my play style. The only suggestions I really like are duplicant and sundering titan. I already own sundering titan, I'll have to see if I can find a duplicant.
Yeah, again... I'm not really looking to go the combo route here. I don't really like those sort of ritual effects anyway.
RUG Riku, Two is Better Than One
UB [PRIMER] Wrexial, Classic Control
RG Radha, Ramp's Theme Goes With Everything
Buried Ruin - my artifacts get hated on pretty hard so this seems useful.
Sword of War and Peace - great synergy with Griselbrand.
Heartless Summoning - actually isn't great for your deck since you run BB. I have a few more fatties in my Griselbrand deck tho so it's been working great as mono-black ramp.
Kagemaro, First to Suffer - gets quite large once Griselbrand starts doing his thing and the massive wrath is quite welcome since it deals with indestructible creatures.
I'm really trying to cut down on the number of non-swamps in this deck, to get the most out of coffers and mana doublers.
Yeah, sword of war and peace seems good. It's still relatively expensive though... might have to wait until it rotates to pick up a copy.
Kagemaro is a conditional wrath that will also end up killing Griselbrand... I already have enough good wraths in here.
RUG Riku, Two is Better Than One
UB [PRIMER] Wrexial, Classic Control
RG Radha, Ramp's Theme Goes With Everything
RUG Riku, Two is Better Than One
UB [PRIMER] Wrexial, Classic Control
RG Radha, Ramp's Theme Goes With Everything