The Running Tally of Journey into Nyx
Welcome to the tally thread for Journey into Nyx. Here we will be keep track of the rise and fall of cards in particular set over the course of their time in Standard.
I will be leading them for the foreseeable future. Here are a few ground rules for the tally threads.
Discussions of price changes are fine and welcome. Same with speculation.
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Some things about my list.
I changed it from previous to exclude SCG. It will be based purely on TCG Mid. I did this because I felt uncomfortable using SCG for prices. Also, it makes my worklord a lot easier (2/3 of it is gone).
The reason for TCG Player median is TCG Player's Low option is almost always for non-mint cards as far as I could tell. Most players use TCG Player Mid as trade value. This is not a price guide for where to buy, but telling you what the going rate is for a card so you can decide where to spend your money.
For the record, I do not work for or gain anything from TCG Player. I do not sell online at all or have a card shop. I am purely a trader here on MtGS.
I am here to do this for the community. That means if there is a problem with what I am doing, please let me known. Constructive criticism is always welcomed.
Do you all think Journey is a good box spec target? There are a couple of really nice casual and ECH cards in here. This may be a sleeper for a good box jump in a couple years.
Since I went ahead and updated Modern Masters 1, I decided to go ahead and update the standard sets as well. For this update I will be using the lower end of tcgplayer values, but future updates should include ebay in the mix as well.
Top values rares/mythics:
Ajani Mentor of Heroes: $14
Mana Confluence: $9
Keranos God of Storms: $9
Temple of Malady: $9
Athreos, God of Passage: $8.50
Eidolon of the Great Revel: $7
Temple of Epiphany: $5
Iroas God of Victory: $4
Godsend: $4
Pharika God of Affliction: $4
Kruphix God of Horizons: $2.50
Prophetic Flamespeaker: $2
All other cards are worth less than $2.
Set value:
Total value of Mythics: $48
Total value of Rares: $42
Total value of Uncommon/common sets: $9
Total set value: $99
Overall Average Box value:
Mythics: $4.80/mythic x 4.5 mythics/box = $22
Rares: $1.20/rare x 31.5 rares/box = $38
Uncommon/Common sets: $9 x 1.8 sets/box = $16
Foils: $6
Total overall average box value: $82
Overall, some cards rose, and some fell, basically leading to overall balance for the set, but box value moved up a few dollars to $82/box so overall its on the edge of being worth to open if you can get boxes for cheap enough, but still probably better to just buy the singles.
Anyhow, enjoy the update, will try to do another one soon.
Casual sees +1/+0 and a stupid name and something that dies to Go for the Throat isn't interested. Elbrus isn't re-equippable either. Casual sees mythic, elspeth holding something and a really "unstoppable" combat trick and goes bananas. In any case, we'll see who's right when the set rotates out of standard in a year.
Also, Elbrus costs 7. Even casuals have a threshold of what's playable and what isn't.
Aaaaaaand because I have nothing better to do, and it's not beneath me, I have a leg to kick out. I am a little early, but I believe I can staple my point right now and sit even more proudly on my horse.
You are celebrating (I think that's what you're trying to say but unclear) too soon. My point is that Elbrus is eternally worthless while Godsend has appeal. Godsend's price now is due to high supply and no standard demand. Elbrus is still slightly cheaper than Godsend, despite being out of print for several years and Godsend seeing ZERO standard play. Check out their foil prices and the disparity is even more stark. Foil Godsend is ~12 and foil Elbrus is ~7. What does that tell you? For a mythic? In fact, once rotation hits I'm going to evaluate Godsend's price and probably scoop up all I can, along with all the gods I can for ~2-4 each.
I'm surprised you even remembered that conversation and I'm surprised that you cared enough to dredge it up again. Just a little weird, almost stalkerish.
Casual sees +1/+0 and a stupid name and something that dies to Go for the Throat isn't interested. Elbrus isn't re-equippable either. Casual sees mythic, elspeth holding something and a really "unstoppable" combat trick and goes bananas. In any case, we'll see who's right when the set rotates out of standard in a year.
Also, Elbrus costs 7. Even casuals have a threshold of what's playable and what isn't.
Aaaaaaand because I have nothing better to do, and it's not beneath me, I have a leg to kick out. I am a little early, but I believe I can staple my point right now and sit even more proudly on my horse.
You are celebrating (I think that's what you're trying to say but unclear) too soon. My point is that Elbrus is eternally worthless while Godsend has appeal. Godsend's price now is due to high supply and no standard demand. Elbrus is still slightly cheaper than Godsend, despite being out of print for several years and Godsend seeing ZERO standard play. Check out their foil prices and the disparity is even more stark. Foil Godsend is ~12 and foil Elbrus is ~7. What does that tell you? For a mythic? In fact, once rotation hits I'm going to evaluate Godsend's price and probably scoop up all I can, along with all the gods I can for ~2-4 each.
I'm surprised you even remembered that conversation and I'm surprised that you cared enough to dredge it up again. Just a little weird, almost stalkerish.
Casual sees +1/+0 and a stupid name and something that dies to Go for the Throat isn't interested. Elbrus isn't re-equippable either. Casual sees mythic, elspeth holding something and a really "unstoppable" combat trick and goes bananas. In any case, we'll see who's right when the set rotates out of standard in a year.
Also, Elbrus costs 7. Even casuals have a threshold of what's playable and what isn't.
Aaaaaaand because I have nothing better to do, and it's not beneath me, I have a leg to kick out. I am a little early, but I believe I can staple my point right now and sit even more proudly on my horse.
Lol don't paint yourself pretty; I'm clearing up my bookmarks and getting rid of the useless ones.
Your point, if you remember correctly for once, was that Godsend would go up and it didn't.
Don't worry about this conversation though. You'll be returning to my ignored users list like you were on after our argument started.
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Please don't bait other users.
Creepers gonna creep. Do you also hold on to bookmarks when I'm right? Or bookmarks for other people? That is creepy. Wait some more. Patience pays off in magic, even for creepy people. Also, I don't recall the specifics of my claims but it was something like Godsend is powerful, Elbrus isn't, Godsend appeals to casuals. Godsend has a future, Elbrus has no future. I didn't buy in at $12 or at $7. Maybe you did, because you're so salty about this? Anyways, hold on to this bookmark for a year and see again. Or don't, I really don't care. Also, way to try to pick a fight with someone you've ignored on the board. Good luck with that passive aggressive *****.
You are celebrating (I think that's what you're trying to say but unclear) too soon. My point is that Elbrus is eternally worthless while Godsend has appeal. Godsend's price now is due to high supply and no standard demand. Elbrus is still slightly cheaper than Godsend, despite being out of print for several years and Godsend seeing ZERO standard play. Check out their foil prices and the disparity is even more stark. Foil Godsend is ~12 and foil Elbrus is ~7. What does that tell you? For a mythic? In fact, once rotation hits I'm going to evaluate Godsend's price and probably scoop up all I can, along with all the gods I can for ~2-4 each.
I'm surprised you even remembered that conversation and I'm surprised that you cared enough to dredge it up again. Just a little weird, almost stalkerish.
Casual sees +1/+0 and a stupid name and something that dies to Go for the Throat isn't interested. Elbrus isn't re-equippable either. Casual sees mythic, elspeth holding something and a really "unstoppable" combat trick and goes bananas. In any case, we'll see who's right when the set rotates out of standard in a year.
Also, Elbrus costs 7. Even casuals have a threshold of what's playable and what isn't.
Aaaaaaand because I have nothing better to do, and it's not beneath me, I have a leg to kick out. I am a little early, but I believe I can staple my point right now and sit even more proudly on my horse.
Lol don't paint yourself pretty; I'm clearing up my bookmarks and getting rid of the useless ones.
Your point, if you remember correctly for once, was that Godsend would go up and it didn't.
Don't worry about this conversation though. You'll be returning to my ignored users list like you were on after our argument started.
Welcome to the tally thread for Journey into Nyx. Here we will be keep track of the rise and fall of cards in particular set over the course of their time in Standard.
I will be leading them for the foreseeable future. Here are a few ground rules for the tally threads.
Previous Tally Thread
Rules
I changed it from previous to exclude SCG. It will be based purely on TCG Mid. I did this because I felt uncomfortable using SCG for prices. Also, it makes my worklord a lot easier (2/3 of it is gone).
The reason for TCG Player median is TCG Player's Low option is almost always for non-mint cards as far as I could tell. Most players use TCG Player Mid as trade value. This is not a price guide for where to buy, but telling you what the going rate is for a card so you can decide where to spend your money.
For the record, I do not work for or gain anything from TCG Player. I do not sell online at all or have a card shop. I am purely a trader here on MtGS.
I am here to do this for the community. That means if there is a problem with what I am doing, please let me known. Constructive criticism is always welcomed.
Journey into Nyx 9-Feb
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 17.99
Keranos, God of Storms 11.25
Mana Confluence 11.25
Temple of Malady 10.68
Athreos, God of Passage 8.49
Temple of Epiphany 8.07
Eidolon of the Great Revel 6.25
Pharika, God of Affliction 4.99
Iroas, God of Victory 4.81
Godsend 4.24
Kruphix, God of Horizons 2.98
Prophetic Flamespeaker 2.50
Master of the Feast 1.95
Nyx-Fleece Ram 1.83
Launch the Fleets 1.81
Sage of Hours 1.56
Doomwake Giant 1.55
Banishing Light 1.30
Eidolon of Blossoms 1.03
Journey into Nyx 16-Feb
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 18.03
Keranos, God of Storms 11.48
Mana Confluence 11.38
Temple of Malady 10.44
Temple of Epiphany 8.42
Athreos, God of Passage 8.13
Eidolon of the Great Revel 5.66
Pharika, God of Affliction 4.95
Iroas, God of Victory 4.74
Godsend 4.16
Kruphix, God of Horizons 2.84
Prophetic Flamespeaker 2.51
Master of the Feast 1.95
Launch the Fleets 1.87
Nyx-Fleece Ram 1.80
Doomwake Giant 1.74
Sage of Hours 1.53
Banishing Light 1.34
Eidolon of Blossoms 1.11
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 17.99 (-0.04)
Keranos, God of Storms 11.29 (-0.19)
Mana Confluence 11.14 (-0.24)
Temple of Malady 10.94 (+0.50)
Temple of Epiphany 8.75 (+0.33)
Athreos, God of Passage 8.75 (+0.62)
Eidolon of the Great Revel 6.75 (+1.09)
Pharika, God of Affliction 5.00 (+0.05)
Iroas, God of Victory 4.78 (+0.04)
Godsend 4.35 (+0.19)
Kruphix, God of Horizons 3.11 (+0.27)
Prophetic Flamespeaker 2.57 (+0.06)
Master of the Feast 1.93 ](-0.02)
Nyx-Fleece Ram 1.79 (-0.01)
Launch the Fleets 1.78 (-0.09)
Sage of Hours 1.64 (+0.09)
Doomwake Giant 1.43 (-0.31)
Eidolon of Blossoms 1.00 (-0.11)
Journey is relatively stable. The only big move was Eidolon of the Great Revel.
Keranos, God of Storms 55.99
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 33.91
Mana Confluence 27.79
Athreos, God of Passage 25.60
Eidolon of the Great Revel 25.50
Kruphix, God of Horizons 20.34
Iroas, God of Victory 17.48
Pharika, God of Affliction 15.21
Godsend 14.85
Temple of Malady 14.43
Prophetic Flamespeaker 13.15
Temple of Epiphany 12.55
Sage of Hours 6.56
Nyx-Fleece Ram 6.39
Worst Fears 6.36
Dictate of Erebos 6.26
Banishing Light 4.99
Master of the Feast 4.59
Eidolon of Blossoms 3.55
Gnarled Scarhide 3.49
Eidolon of Rhetoric 3.37
Dakra Mystic 3.25
Deicide 3.23
Nyx Weaver 3.21
Doomwake Giant 3.17
Silence the Believers 3.09
Aegis of the Gods 2.99
Launch the Fleets 2.99
Setessan Tactics 2.61
Brain Maggot 2.39
Dictate of Kruphix 2.00
Hypnotic Siren 2.00
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 17.80 (-0.19)
Keranos, God of Storms 11.08 (-0.21)
Mana Confluence 10.99 (-0.15)
Temple of Malady 10.80 (-0.14)
Athreos, God of Passage 8.92 (+0.17)
Temple of Epiphany 7.51 (-1.24)
Eidolon of the Great Revel 6.99 (+0.24)
Pharika, God of Affliction 5.00 (0.00)
Iroas, God of Victory 4.82 (+0.04)
Godsend 4.38 (+0.03)
Kruphix, God of Horizons 3.24 (+0.13)
Prophetic Flamespeaker 2.54 (-0.03)
Master of the Feast 1.88 (-0.05)
Launch the Fleets 1.75 (-0.03)
Nyx-Fleece Ram 1.71 (-0.08)
Sage of Hours 1.62 (-0.02)
Banishing Light 1.28 (0.00)
Doomwake Giant 1.28 (-0.15)
Eidolon of Blossoms 1.00 (0.00)
No real major shifts other than epiphany taking a hit. I imagine this is because WR is now the main R deck, not UWR.
Journey in Nyx 2-Mar
Keranos, God of Storms 56.08 (+0.09)
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 33.98 (+0.08)
Mana Confluence 27.62 (-0.17)
Athreos, God of Passage 25.96 (+0.36)
Eidolon of the Great Revel 25.66 (+0.16)
Kruphix, God of Horizons 19.99 (-0.35)
Iroas, God of Victory 17.27 (-0.21)
Pharika, God of Affliction 15.21 (0.00)
Godsend 14.77 (-0.08)
Temple of Malady 14.57 (+0.14)
Prophetic Flamespeaker 12.99 (-0.16)
Temple of Epiphany 12.41 (-0.14)
Sage of Hours 6.49 (-0.07)
Nyx-Fleece Ram 6.44 (-0.05 )
Worst Fears 6.36 (0.00)
Dictate of Erebos 6.00 (-0.26)
Banishing Light 5.99 (+1.00)
Master of the Feast 4.51 (-0.08)
Eidolon of Blossoms 3.49 (-0.06)
Gnarled Scarhide 3.49 (0.00)
Eidolon of Rhetoric 3.33 (-0.04)
[card]Nyx Weaver]/card] 3.26 (+0.05)
Dakra Mystic 3.21 (-0.04)
Deicide 3.13 (-0.10)
Silence the Believers 3.14 (-0.05)
Doomwake Giant 3.02 (-0.15)
Aegis of the Gods 2.98 (-0.01)
Launch the Fleets 2.99 (0.00)
Setessan Tactics 2.64 (+0.03)
Brain Maggot 2.37 (-0.02)
Dictate of Kruphix 2.00 (0.00)
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 17.58 (-0.22)
Temple of Malady 10.96 (+0.16)
Keranos, God of Storms 10.91 (-0.17)
Mana Confluence 10.64 (-0.35)
Athreos, God of Passage 8.94 (+0.02)
Temple of Epiphany 7.15 (-0.36)
Eidolon of the Great Revel 7.02 (+0.03)
Pharika, God of Affliction 4.99 (-0.01)
Iroas, God of Victory 4.85 (+0.03)
Godsend 4.40 (+0.02)
Kruphix, God of Horizons 3.25 (+0.01)
Prophetic Flamespeaker 2.50 (-0.04)
Master of the Feast 1.86 (-0.02)
Launch the Fleets 1.66 (-0.09)
Sage of Hours 1.66 (+0.04)
Nyx-Fleece Ram 1.64 (-0.07)
Banishing Light 1.25 (-0.03)
Doomwake Giant 1.13 (-0.15)
Temple of My Lady is now the most expensive land in Theros Block, and higher than a few fetches. No real major shifts though.
Top values rares/mythics:
Ajani Mentor of Heroes: $14
Mana Confluence: $9
Keranos God of Storms: $9
Temple of Malady: $9
Athreos, God of Passage: $8.50
Eidolon of the Great Revel: $7
Temple of Epiphany: $5
Iroas God of Victory: $4
Godsend: $4
Pharika God of Affliction: $4
Kruphix God of Horizons: $2.50
Prophetic Flamespeaker: $2
All other cards are worth less than $2.
Set value:
Total value of Mythics: $48
Total value of Rares: $42
Total value of Uncommon/common sets: $9
Total set value: $99
Overall Average Box value:
Mythics: $4.80/mythic x 4.5 mythics/box = $22
Rares: $1.20/rare x 31.5 rares/box = $38
Uncommon/Common sets: $9 x 1.8 sets/box = $16
Foils: $6
Total overall average box value: $82
Overall, some cards rose, and some fell, basically leading to overall balance for the set, but box value moved up a few dollars to $82/box so overall its on the edge of being worth to open if you can get boxes for cheap enough, but still probably better to just buy the singles.
Anyhow, enjoy the update, will try to do another one soon.
Aaaaaaand because I have nothing better to do, and it's not beneath me, I have a leg to kick out. I am a little early, but I believe I can staple my point right now and sit even more proudly on my horse.
I'm surprised you even remembered that conversation and I'm surprised that you cared enough to dredge it up again. Just a little weird, almost stalkerish.
Journey into Nyx 16-Mar
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 17.33 (-0.25)
Temple of Malady 10.94 (-0.02)
Keranos, God of Storms 10.75 (-0.16)
Mana Confluence 10.44 (-0.20)
Athreos, God of Passage 9.23 (+0.29)
Eidolon of the Great Revel 7.33 (+0.31)
Temple of Epiphany 6.99 (-0.16)
Pharika, God of Affliction 4.99 (0.00)
Iroas, God of Victory 4.99 (+0.14)
Godsend 4.53 (+0.13)
Kruphix, God of Horizons 3.27 (-0.02)
Prophetic Flamespeaker 2.49 (-0.01)
Master of the Feast 1.89 (+0.03)
Sage of Hours 1.71 (+0.05)
Launch the Fleets 1.66 (0.00)
Nyx-Fleece Ram 1.58 (-0.06)
Banishing Light 1.24 (-0.01)
Doomwake Giant 1.05 (-0.08)
No major shifts. Seems relatively stable.
Your point, if you remember correctly for once, was that Godsend would go up and it didn't.
Don't worry about this conversation though. You'll be returning to my ignored users list like you were on after our argument started.
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 17.09 (-0.24)
Temple of Malady 10.91 (-0.03)
Keranos, God of Storms 10.91 (+0.16)
Mana Confluence 10.21 (-0.23)
Athreos, God of Passage 9.49 (+0.26)
Eidolon of the Great Revel 7.46 (+0.13)
Temple of Epiphany 6.85 (-0.14)
Pharika, God of Affliction 4.99 (0.00)
Iroas, God of Victory 4.99 (0.00)
Godsend 4.76 (+0.23)
Kruphix, God of Horizons 3.36 (+0.09)
Prophetic Flamespeaker 2.49 (0.00)
Master of the Feast 1.89 (0.00)
Sage of Hours 1.77 (+0.06)
Nyx-Fleece Ram 1.60 (+0.02)
Launch the Fleets 1.58 (-0.08)
Banishing Light 1.19 (-0.05)
No major changes.
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 16.99 (-0.10)
Temple of Malady 10.69 (-0.22)
Keranos, God of Storms 10.66 (-0.25)
Mana Confluence 10.01 (-0.20)
Athreos, God of Passage 9.66 (+0.17)
Eidolon of the Great Revel 7.50 (+0.04)
Temple of Epiphany 6.59 (-0.26)
Iroas, God of Victory 4.99 (0.00)
Pharika, God of Affliction 4.95 (-0.04)
Godsend 4.78 (+0.02)
Kruphix, God of Horizons 3.39 (+0.03)
Prophetic Flamespeaker 2.49 (0.00)
Master of the Feast 1.89 (0.00)
Sage of Hours 1.78 (+0.01)
Nyx-Fleece Ram 1.60 (0.00)
Launch the Fleets 1.55 (-0.03)
Banishing Light 1.17 (-0.02)
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 16.93 (-0.06)
Keranos, God of Storms 10.70 (+0.04)
Temple of Malady 10.45 (-0.24)
Mana Confluence 10.00 (-0.01)
Athreos, God of Passage 9.81 (+0.15)
Eidolon of the Great Revel 7.65 (+0.15)
Temple of Epiphany 6.49 (-0.10)
Iroas, God of Victory 4.99 (0.00)
Pharika, God of Affliction 4.98 (+0.03)
Godsend 4.83 (+0.05)
Kruphix, God of Horizons 3.43 (+0.04)
Prophetic Flamespeaker 2.49 (0.00)
Master of the Feast 1.89 (0.00)
Sage of Hours 1.79 (+0.01)
Nyx-Fleece Ram 1.62 (+0.02)
Launch the Fleets 1.55 (0.00)
Banishing Light 1.17 (0.00)
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 16.57 (-0.36)
Keranos, God of Storms 10.50 (-0.20)
Temple of Malady 10.37 (-0.08)
Mana Confluence 9.97 (-0.03)
Athreos, God of Passage 9.99 (+0.18)
Eidolon of the Great Revel 7.57 (-0.08)
Temple of Epiphany 6.19 (-0.30)
Iroas, God of Victory 4.99 (0.00)
Pharika, God of Affliction 4.94 (-0.04)
Godsend 4.85 (+0.02)
Kruphix, God of Horizons 3.42 (-0.01)
Prophetic Flamespeaker 2.49 (0.00)
Master of the Feast 1.86 (-0.03)
Sage of Hours 1.81 (+0.02)
Nyx-Fleece Ram 1.62 (0.00)
Launch the Fleets 1.50 (-0.05)
Banishing Light 1.15 (-0.02)
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes 16.63 (+0.06)
Keranos, God of Storms 10.50 (0.00)
Temple of Malady 10.25 (-0.12)
Athreos, God of Passage 10.00 (+0.01)
Mana Confluence 9.97 (0.00)
Eidolon of the Great Revel 7.94 (+0.37)
Temple of Epiphany 6.07 (-0.12)
Iroas, God of Victory 4.99 (0.00)
Pharika, God of Affliction 4.92 (-0.02)
Godsend 4.86 (+0.01)
Kruphix, God of Horizons 3.44 (+0.02)
Prophetic Flamespeaker 2.47 (-0.02)
Master of the Feast 1.85 (-0.01)
Sage of Hours 1.79 (-0.02)
Nyx-Fleece Ram 1.60 (-0.02)
Launch the Fleets 1.50 (0.00)
Banishing Light 1.15 (0.00)