At this point I stop and ask. You have a Scalding Tarn expedition, and you're trying to get the best deal for it? What do you want? Are you trying to trade for value, for something for a deck, or what? If you tell us your goals, we can help you more.
Right now, Pile B looks better, from a strictly financial perspective. If you're looking for a value trade, this is a fine trade.
Yeah thats kind of the rub
I dumped my collection early this year and just got back in with BFZ and this happened so I'm not sure what direction to go with it. Which explains the constant posts
At this point I stop and ask. You have a Scalding Tarn expedition, and you're trying to get the best deal for it? What do you want? Are you trying to trade for value, for something for a deck, or what? If you tell us your goals, we can help you more.
Right now, Pile B looks better, from a strictly financial perspective. If you're looking for a value trade, this is a fine trade.
Yeah thats kind of the rub
I dumped my collection early this year and just got back in with BFZ and this happened so I'm not sure what direction to go with it. Which explains the constant posts
Okay. So, this either gets you EDH cards, or more trade bait. What's your end goal? EDH? Modern? Standard?
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It was going to be standard with a focus on new rotation post Khans. Which is why I opened a lot of BFZ in the first place. EDH is the other format I love also. So high value EDH cards would be something I'd consider or good standard staples that will stick around once shadows hits
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Really? My thinking was that the sea can be had at tcg low for 180, which would only put the boxes at 100 a piece.
I'm seeing plenty of boxes on eBay going for $90-$95 plus free shipping. That'd put the trade at $180 (in a junk set, IMHO), for, at a bare minimum, a $180 card plus $20 in cash. Even at heavily-played, the cheapest on TCG Player is $166. The better the condition, the better the trade, assuming it's not a counterfeit.
The condition of the USea is very relevant, but I'd almost always take the Sea. Guaranteed value over Expedition Lottery.
If you don't open a blue fetch expedition, then you lose. 72 packs, odds are about 67% that you'll open an expedition at all. Most of them won't make up the difference. I don't like those odds.
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I have no need for a card that's only used in Infect. I can get an extra Bloodstained Mire (I have 4 Khans and 2 Onslaught already).
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I have no need for a card that's only used in Infect. I can get an extra Bloodstained Mire (I have 4 Khans and 2 Onslaught already).
You can also get a LP Bloodstained mire for around 16 total, where the lowest price that I see for a LP foil Might is around 19. I would see if Pile B had something else in the 2-4 range that they would be willing to part with, personally speaking.
Thanks. I think the MooK foil is LP-. I'm guessing the Bloodstained Mire is NM-, but I will certainly check.
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Seems like a fair trade, the deck is worth around $580 in cash, but you only get full retail when trading. You always get less when trying to get cash for cards so this seems like a fair deal. I think I'd take the deck if you really need it or want to play it, if not maybe try to get $500.
Seems like a fair trade, the deck is worth around $580 in cash, but you only get full retail when trading. You always get less when trying to get cash for cards so this seems like a fair deal. I think I'd take the deck if you really need it or want to play it, if not maybe try to get $500.
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I agree, though just a few thoughts on pile A. Merfolk is also becomming more popular decks since it is one of the cheaper tier 1/2 decks. The list looks a little dated however. No meerow reejery and only 1 cavern of souls. If I were getting pile A id go in knowing id have to put in about 150 to bring it up to date.
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I agree, though just a few thoughts on pile A. Merfolk is also becomming more popular decks since it is one of the cheaper tier 1/2 decks. The list looks a little dated however. No meerow reejery and only 1 cavern of souls. If I were getting pile A id go in knowing id have to put in about 150 to bring it up to date.
This is the list he wanted. I have been looking at the price of Mutavault and Aether Vial playsets online because I still may want to play Slivers. It looks like it's around $55 for the Vaults and $120 for the Aether Vials.
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So the piles are kinda in flux, it's more of a general question. TCG mid values being used for everything.
Pile A:
0-2 Original Modern Masters booster box
0-1 Modern Masters 2 booster box
Pile B:
Approximately 110% pile A's value in Expeditions and Revised Duals
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Known value in lands against a lottery? Seems like Pile B to me. I guess it depends on whose calculation you use to set the value of the sealed product. TCG is saying MMA is about $350, which jives with what you can get a box for on eBay. What's the best case for you on that box, foil 'Goyf? Does anything else pay for the box? No. So, known value, or bet on opening a foil 'Goyf? I'll take the known value.
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So the piles are kinda in flux, it's more of a general question. TCG mid values being used for everything.
Pile A:
0-2 Original Modern Masters booster box
0-1 Modern Masters 2 booster box
Pile B:
Approximately 110% pile A's value in Expeditions and Revised Duals
Edit - Post #3,000, woo.
Known value in lands against a lottery? Seems like Pile B to me. I guess it depends on whose calculation you use to set the value of the sealed product. TCG is saying MMA is about $350, which jives with what you can get a box for on eBay. What's the best case for you on that box, foil 'Goyf? Does anything else pay for the box? No. So, known value, or bet on opening a foil 'Goyf? I'll take the known value.
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So the piles are kinda in flux, it's more of a general question. TCG mid values being used for everything.
Pile A:
0-2 Original Modern Masters booster box
0-1 Modern Masters 2 booster box
Pile B:
Approximately 110% pile A's value in Expeditions and Revised Duals
Edit - Post #3,000, woo.
Depends on the makeup of expeditions and duals. If it's heavy on playable duals, I'd take the sure thing over the lottery+drafting. Some of the expeditions, I would still take that (less of a fan of those, but they are high value if you're looking at the fetches). If pile B is a stack of BFZ duals, Plateaus, and Badlands, I would consider the MM boxes. It really boils down to whether you would rather have a known quantity or a chance of something higher value, and how much you enjoy drafting/the MM formats.
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Yeah thats kind of the rub
I dumped my collection early this year and just got back in with BFZ and this happened so I'm not sure what direction to go with it. Which explains the constant posts
Okay. So, this either gets you EDH cards, or more trade bait. What's your end goal? EDH? Modern? Standard?
Two BFZ boxes
Pile B:
$20
Revised Underground Sea
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Unless the Underground Sea is not sleeve-playable, I'd take Pile B and run. It's not even close.
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I'm seeing plenty of boxes on eBay going for $90-$95 plus free shipping. That'd put the trade at $180 (in a junk set, IMHO), for, at a bare minimum, a $180 card plus $20 in cash. Even at heavily-played, the cheapest on TCG Player is $166. The better the condition, the better the trade, assuming it's not a counterfeit.
I would take the Sea in a heartbeat, as long as it's in at least reasonable condition.
And if you open that box you pull $20 in jank. Or hold for 10 years and sell for $120 instead of $100 now.
Take the sea and run.
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The condition of the USea is very relevant, but I'd almost always take the Sea. Guaranteed value over Expedition Lottery.
If you don't open a blue fetch expedition, then you lose. 72 packs, odds are about 67% that you'll open an expedition at all. Most of them won't make up the difference. I don't like those odds.
Noble hierarch from conflux
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Goryo's vengeance (japanese)
Grove of the Burnwillows FTV
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Dark Confidant MM2015
Creeping Tarpit
Scavenging Ooze M14
I'd take B for sure here.
A. But I don't put much extra into pimp status. Hierarch fits in more decks then Goryo.
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Pile B - Khans Bloodstained Mire
I have no need for a card that's only used in Infect. I can get an extra Bloodstained Mire (I have 4 Khans and 2 Onslaught already).
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Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)You can also get a LP Bloodstained mire for around 16 total, where the lowest price that I see for a LP foil Might is around 19. I would see if Pile B had something else in the 2-4 range that they would be willing to part with, personally speaking.
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Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)4 Mutavault
2 Wanderwine Hub
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Oboro, Palace in the Clouds
1 Minamo, School at Water’s Edge
4 Cursecatcher
4 Lord of Atlantis
4 Master of the Pearl Trident
4 Silvergill Adept
4 Harbinger of the Tides
2 Phantasmal Image
2 Kira, Great Glass Spinner
4 Master of Waves
2 Spell Pierce
4 Spreading Seas
3 Dismember
3 Chalice of the Void
1 Echoing Truth
2 Negate
1 Spellskite
3 Tectonic Edge
2 Tidebinder Mage
1 Dismember
2 Relic of Progenitus
Or Pile B - $480?
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I agree, though just a few thoughts on pile A. Merfolk is also becomming more popular decks since it is one of the cheaper tier 1/2 decks. The list looks a little dated however. No meerow reejery and only 1 cavern of souls. If I were getting pile A id go in knowing id have to put in about 150 to bring it up to date.
This is the list he wanted. I have been looking at the price of Mutavault and Aether Vial playsets online because I still may want to play Slivers. It looks like it's around $55 for the Vaults and $120 for the Aether Vials.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Pile A:
0-2 Original Modern Masters booster box
0-1 Modern Masters 2 booster box
Pile B:
Approximately 110% pile A's value in Expeditions and Revised Duals
Edit - Post #3,000, woo.
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Known value in lands against a lottery? Seems like Pile B to me. I guess it depends on whose calculation you use to set the value of the sealed product. TCG is saying MMA is about $350, which jives with what you can get a box for on eBay. What's the best case for you on that box, foil 'Goyf? Does anything else pay for the box? No. So, known value, or bet on opening a foil 'Goyf? I'll take the known value.
Congrats on Post #3,000.
Known value in lands against a lottery? Seems like Pile B to me. I guess it depends on whose calculation you use to set the value of the sealed product. TCG is saying MMA is about $350, which jives with what you can get a box for on eBay. What's the best case for you on that box, foil 'Goyf? Does anything else pay for the box? No. So, known value, or bet on opening a foil 'Goyf? I'll take the known value.
Congrats on Post #3,000.