What should I make of this listing? Bogus and fake? Or actually altered? And if altered, is it a regular Jace altered to be foil? Or a foil altered to be full-art foil (cuz the price is kinda low right now, for a foil anyway, even if there's still time in the bid, and even if it's getting altered...)?
Normally, I wouldn't have any qualms with altered cards (they're pretty to look at), sometimes even considered buying some (never have though), but with such a high-priced, high-profile card, is this listing...for real?
And at the end there with the, "get an additional copy for slightly less cost" makes me kinda fishy about this.
Also, would this be legal to play? Or is this up to the head judge?
I know it sounds ludicrous to get concerned, but since the big talk now is Jace and the rising price, I couldn't help but wonder if some people out there are trying to scam others.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Says genuine foil mtg card, not genuine foil jace.
Says for casual play only.
Even if this wasn't obv I wouldn't go for a foil alter print on ebay unless its some official commissioned product like the argyle lilianas.
Fair enough fair enough. When I read casual play only, I assumed that alters are banned from tournaments (big alters, that is).
Glossed over too quickly. Read it as "genuine foil mtg card" assuming it was the same foil card (assuming that it was implied to be the same one altered. Gotta love technicalities. :rolleyes:).
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Fair enough fair enough. When I read casual play only, I assumed that alters are banned from tournaments (big alters, that is).
Glossed over too quickly. Read it as "genuine foil mtg card" assuming it was the same foil card.
Its not something a seller would advertize though. By saying casual only they're basically trying to absolve the fact its entirely not a legal card.
BTW assuming this was a real jace that was altered it COULD (final decision up to head judge) be legal for tournament play. The alter does not make the card unrecognizable nor does it obscure the name.
Its not something a seller would advertize though. By saying casual only they're basically trying to abvolve the fact its entierly not a legal card.
BTW assuming this was a real jace that was altered it COULD (final decision up to head judge) be legal for tournament play. The alter does not make the card unrecognizable nor does it obscure the name.
True.
These must be the same as OriCa cards in Yugioh...fakes made for show.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
They are illegal illegal. It's counterfeiting and against the law. Stealing and reproducing copyrighted material like this is illegal.
There are times when for a more reasonable price I would actually want to buy something like this for an EDH deck or something. Then I remember that I would be supporting a counterfeit operation ripping off WotC who actually makes the game playable in the first place and come to my senses.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
This takes like 5 bucks to make, this guy is making a killing.
I have a friend or two who have been known to make full-art proxies of ABUR duals for friends for use in EDH decks and cubes and such. I think it's a reasonable option for people who don't have the resources or dedication to shell out for a real copy and just want to play Magic with something other than a common written on with with a Sharpie. But putting something like this up on EBay is not ok at all, and getting 100 bucks for it (while insinuating that it's worth more than the shiny cardboard it's been re-printed over) is a crying shame.
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Thanks to Gabgabdevo for the awesome sig image!
I'm always looking for foil Madcap Skills and Ghitu Fire-Eater, [trade thread link forthcoming]
I would love to have a couple of these, and would even pay a reasonable (sub-15) price for them. However, I don't consider them Magic cards. More "Ways to play my Jaces without any wear and tear."
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Decks:
Modern: Jund
Legacy: Pox
EDH: Chainer Reanimation and The Dragon Show, with Zirilan of the Claw
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Because there are a lot of them and ebay doesn't know about them unless you report it. Did you?
I was bored and reported it this morning before I went to bed
I hate seeing stupid people getting taken advantage of. I'm sorry if this pertains to anyone here but people need to stop making these intentionally misleading. I feel bad for the person that payed $100 for the other print
What should I make of this listing? Bogus and fake? Or actually altered? And if altered, is it a regular Jace altered to be foil? Or a foil altered to be full-art foil (cuz the price is kinda low right now, for a foil anyway, even if there's still time in the bid, and even if it's getting altered...)?
Normally, I wouldn't have any qualms with altered cards (they're pretty to look at), sometimes even considered buying some (never have though), but with such a high-priced, high-profile card, is this listing...for real?
And at the end there with the, "get an additional copy for slightly less cost" makes me kinda fishy about this.
Also, would this be legal to play? Or is this up to the head judge?
I know it sounds ludicrous to get concerned, but since the big talk now is Jace and the rising price, I couldn't help but wonder if some people out there are trying to scam others.
why:
Says genuine foil mtg card, not genuine foil jace.
Says for casual play only.
Even if this wasn't obv I wouldn't go for a foil alter print on ebay unless its some official commissioned product like the argyle lilianas.
XXXX
Modern
URTwinRU R.I.P.
EDH
WUGRoon of the Hidden RealmWUG
Fair enough fair enough. When I read casual play only, I assumed that alters are banned from tournaments (big alters, that is).
Glossed over too quickly. Read it as "genuine foil mtg card" assuming it was the same foil card (assuming that it was implied to be the same one altered. Gotta love technicalities. :rolleyes:).
Me too. They're kind of annoying.
Its not something a seller would advertize though. By saying casual only they're basically trying to absolve the fact its entirely not a legal card.
BTW assuming this was a real jace that was altered it COULD (final decision up to head judge) be legal for tournament play. The alter does not make the card unrecognizable nor does it obscure the name.
True.
These must be the same as OriCa cards in Yugioh...fakes made for show.
I'm not quite sure why people pay so much for them... :/
WUBRGPauper Battle BoxWUBRG ... and why I am not a fan of Wayne Reynolds' Illustrations.
There are times when for a more reasonable price I would actually want to buy something like this for an EDH deck or something. Then I remember that I would be supporting a counterfeit operation ripping off WotC who actually makes the game playable in the first place and come to my senses.
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Thada Adel Stax WIP
I have a friend or two who have been known to make full-art proxies of ABUR duals for friends for use in EDH decks and cubes and such. I think it's a reasonable option for people who don't have the resources or dedication to shell out for a real copy and just want to play Magic with something other than a common written on with with a Sharpie. But putting something like this up on EBay is not ok at all, and getting 100 bucks for it (while insinuating that it's worth more than the shiny cardboard it's been re-printed over) is a crying shame.
Thanks to Gabgabdevo for the awesome sig image!
I'm always looking for foil Madcap Skills and Ghitu Fire-Eater, [trade thread link forthcoming]
Modern: Jund
Legacy: Pox
EDH: Chainer Reanimation and The Dragon Show, with Zirilan of the Claw
Because there are a lot of them and ebay doesn't know about them unless you report it. Did you?
WUBRGPauper Battle BoxWUBRG ... and why I am not a fan of Wayne Reynolds' Illustrations.
Well, no. Did you?
I've always kinda took them for granted as fan-made. Or idiots trying to make quick money. Mostly ignored them. :/
I was bored and reported it this morning before I went to bed
I hate seeing stupid people getting taken advantage of. I'm sorry if this pertains to anyone here but people need to stop making these intentionally misleading. I feel bad for the person that payed $100 for the other print
XXXX
Modern
URTwinRU R.I.P.
EDH
WUGRoon of the Hidden RealmWUG
Of course I did. They usually take 2-3 days to get them though.
WUBRGPauper Battle BoxWUBRG ... and why I am not a fan of Wayne Reynolds' Illustrations.