I recently read on the MTGSalvation Wiki that after the Weatherlight was destroyed Tahgrath, Sisay, and Squee were given a new ship, called Victory, and continued their adventures. The exact quote was:
After the invasion Tahngarth, Sisay and Squee were left without a ship, for the Weatherlight had been absorbed when the Legacy was completed. However, the thankful people of Dominaria granted them a new ship, which Sisay named Victory, and the three of them headed off for more adventures.
Does anyone else think it is possible that we will see these characters again in a later set. And if not these exact characters, than other ones on the Skyship Victory?
Unlikely. It's been so long since that happened, and that storyline is long over (other than the more long-term consequences of the invasion in general). I doubt we're ever going to see much of anything anymore that relates to pre-Mending stuff, unless it's directly connected to something happening post-Mending.
But wasn't Mirrodin, Karn, Phyrexia, and Venser also from a very long time ago. If there bringing back things like that is it too hard to believe that they would bring back the Victory? I'm not saying Squee Tahngrath, and Sisay should come back, because they are most likely LONG dead, but maybe the ship itself could return.
It just doesn't seem to be the kind of thing that would revisited, since the vast majority of people don't know it exists. I didn't even remember it until you made this thread, and I checked. Returning to Mirrodin and the Phyrexians makes sense because both of those things are extremely popular. Anything more than a cameo mention of the Victory doesn't make sense, since the number of people who even know what it is is very, very small.
Personally, and I'm not just saying this, I hadn't heard of Mirrodin, Phyrexia, Venser, Karn or anything of the older sets until Scars was announced. After that I started delving into the older sets and discovered the wealth of creativity that existed within. Most of the players I know hadn't started playing until around Alara and some even thought that Mirrodin and Phyrexia were new ideas. I think that a large portion of players today are probably as misinformed as I was and that it would be greatly enjoyable if they continued to bring past story lines back into the spotlight. And even though Victory was a little known thing in its time, it would probably work well as a story center now due to the large number of new players.
How is it a good story center? We're not going to have another storyline that focuses on a small group of characters like the Weatherlight crew; the model is an exploration of worlds and environments, and events that change them, with the new breed of planeswalker as the main vehicle for that exploration. A single ship is nothing special or exciting; can it even planeswalk like the Weatherlight did?
Mirrodin, Phyrexia, etc. might not be familiar to very new players, but there is a huge portion of the audience that has been around long enough to know and remember them. They are tremendous parts of Magic history. The Victory is not much more than a footnote, a way to say "and they all lived happily ever after."
I didn't mean a story based around the ship traveling from plane to plane or anything like that. I meant something more along the lines of a set returning to Dominaria and the the planeswalkers that are now seen as the faces of the game interacting with a machine capable of doing the things that they are most known for. Also, I don't think it's too hard to believe that a planeswalking ship will show up in some capacity. In the newest Planeswalker comic it shows Venser making a ship capable of doing just that.
In other words, they're changing it from a character-driven story to an event-driven story. I wouldn't say that the former isn't exciting, though. It certainly worked while they were doing it.
I wouldn't count on seeing anything from the Weatherlight saga again, though. Less because of stylistic differences, more because the current Creative seems very intent on burying the past as much as it can. Mirrodin and Phyrexia are popular. Tahngarth and Sisay aren't as popular, nor are they as simple and marketable as Jace and Chandra.
We're not going to see them again in the current time, barring a reveal that they were preserved in some fashion, or far less likely, someone had a neospark. It has been 300+ years since the Invasion, which is well outside the lifespan of humans and goblins, and I see no reason to believe minotaurs normally live for centuries.
To be fair, Squee did have that little immortality gift granted, but we have no idea if it extends to lifespan, or even how far. And also to be fair, there is always the possibility of going back to that period of time, but given how mythic-, planeswalker-, and new player-focused current Creative is, I REALLY doubt a direct revisit to the past is coming any time soon.
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Does anyone else think it is possible that we will see these characters again in a later set. And if not these exact characters, than other ones on the Skyship Victory?
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Mirrodin, Phyrexia, etc. might not be familiar to very new players, but there is a huge portion of the audience that has been around long enough to know and remember them. They are tremendous parts of Magic history. The Victory is not much more than a footnote, a way to say "and they all lived happily ever after."
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I wouldn't count on seeing anything from the Weatherlight saga again, though. Less because of stylistic differences, more because the current Creative seems very intent on burying the past as much as it can. Mirrodin and Phyrexia are popular. Tahngarth and Sisay aren't as popular, nor are they as simple and marketable as Jace and Chandra.
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To be fair, Squee did have that little immortality gift granted, but we have no idea if it extends to lifespan, or even how far. And also to be fair, there is always the possibility of going back to that period of time, but given how mythic-, planeswalker-, and new player-focused current Creative is, I REALLY doubt a direct revisit to the past is coming any time soon.
About any "subpar" mechanics or cards: Context is king.
If I make a templating or grammar error, let me know.
The franchise MtG most resembles is Battlestar Galactica. Why? Its players exist in, at most, a dozen different models at any given point in time, with perhaps up to 3% variation, 5% if you're lucky.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)