So I have Wurmcoil Engine, Scrap Trawler, and Myr Retriever on the field at the same time. I use some card or ability to send all three to the graveyard at the same time (they all enter at the same time since in this case the effect would have been "sacrifice", "Destroy" or otherwise). Now my question is, can I stack their abilities like this?
1) Wurmcoil died so it creates the tokens as it goes to the graveyard, then all three are in the graveyard.
2) Myr retriever returns Wurmcoil engine to my hand.
2) Scrap trawler senses itself going in so returns the myr retriever to my hand, and wurmcoil engine so it returns itself to my hand.
Final result is all three are back in my hand. The way I understand it is that because they all go into the grave at the same time their effects all go off, but I can choose the order? I'm sure I'm missing a step or rule, so could someone help me figure this out or suggest a solution/ example?
If you own and control Wurmcoil Engine, Scrap Trawler, and Myr Retriever, none of them are tokens, and they all die at the same time, their abilities will trigger at the same time (C.R. 700.4, 603.6c, 603.10, 603.10a). Then, the next time a player would get priority, those abilities go on the stack at the same time, and you choose the order in which they go on the stack (C.R. 603.3, 603.3b). All three cards would be in your graveyard in time to be targeted by the Scrap Trawler and Myr Retriever abilities this way, as appropriate (C.R. 603.3d, 601.2c).
Thank you for replying, I understand that all their abilities resolve but I guess for more clarity would they be able to resolve in the way I listed? As in would all three be able to return to my hand if i ordered it right? Really I just have trouble grasping scrap trawler returning itself.
Thank you for replying, I understand that all their abilities resolve but I guess for more clarity would they be able to resolve in the way I listed? As in would all three be able to return to my hand if i ordered it right? Really I just have trouble grasping scrap trawler returning itself.
Continuing the scenario in comments 1 and 2, assuming you had no artifact cards in your graveyard at the beginning of the scenario:
You can target Scrap Trawler itself with the Scrap Trawler ability referring to Wurmcoil Engine (since Scrap Trawler's converted mana cost 3 is less than Wurmcoil Engine's, 6), and Myr Retriever with the Scrap Trawler ability referring to Scrap Trawler (since Myr Retriever's converted mana cost 2 is less than Scrap Trawler's, 3), but you can't target any artifact cards with the Scrap Trawler ability referring to Myr Retriever, since a card with lesser converted mana cost than Myr Retriever's isn't in your graveyard. Finally, you can target Wurmcoil Engine with the Myr Retriever ability.
EDIT: Correction after comment 6 was posted.
EDIT (Mar. 17): Correctness edit.
Thank you for replying, I understand that all their abilities resolve but I guess for more clarity would they be able to resolve in the way I listed? As in would all three be able to return to my hand if i ordered it right? Really I just have trouble grasping scrap trawler returning itself.
Yes. Here is a sequence in greater detail.
Your main phase begins.
You get priority and cast Reprocess. You pay the cost of 2BB using mana obtained in an unspecified way. (Other cards like Kuldotha Forgemaster or Salvage Titan would also work here with a slightly different sequence.)
You get priority and pass.
Opponent gets priority and passes.
The top object on the stack (the spell cast in step 2) resolves. You sacrifice Wurmcoil Engine (triggering itself and Scrap Trawler), Scrap Trawler (triggering itself), and Myr Retriever (triggering itself and Scrap Trawler). You draw three cards.
You would get priority, but there are triggered abilities to put on the stack. You control all five, so you choose the order. It doesn't seem to matter in this case, so I will list an arbitrary order here. A) You put "When Wurmcoil Engine dies, create a 3/3 colorless Wurm artifact creature token with deathtouch and a 3/3 colorless Wurm artifact creature token with lifelink." on the stack. B) You put "Whenever Scrap Trawler or another artifact you control is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, return to your hand target artifact card in your graveyard with lesser converted mana cost." (Scrap Trawler triggering for Wurmcoil Engine) on the stack, choosing the Scrap Trawler card as the target. C) You put "Whenever Scrap Trawler or another artifact you control is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, return to your hand target artifact card in your graveyard with lesser converted mana cost." (Scrap Trawler triggering for Scrap Trawler) on the stack, choosing the Myr Retriever card as the target. D) You put "Whenever Scrap Trawler or another artifact you control is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, return to your hand target artifact card in your graveyard with lesser converted mana cost." (Scrap Trawler triggering for Myr Retriever) on the stack, but you can't choose a suitable target, so the ability is simply removed from the stack. [CR 603.3d] E) You put "When Myr Retriever dies, return another target artifact card from your graveyard to your hand." on the stack, choosing the Wurmcoil Engine card as the target.
You get priority and pass.
Opponent gets priority and passes.
The top object on the stack (the ability put there in step 6E) resolves. You return the Wurmcoil Engine card from your graveyard to your hand.
You get priority and pass.
Opponent gets priority and passes.
The top object on the stack (the ability put there in step 6C) resolves. You return the Myr Retriever card from your graveyard to your hand.
You get priority and pass.
Opponent gets priority and passes.
The top object on the stack (the ability put there in step 6B) resolves. You return the Scrap Trawler card from your graveyard to your hand.
You get priority and pass.
Opponent gets priority and passes.
The top object on the stack (the ability put there in step 6A) resolves. You create a 3/3 colorless Wurm artifact creature token with deathtouch and a 3/3 colorless Wurm artifact creature token with lifelink.
You get priority and ....
The targets in step 6 are all cards that were put there in step 5; there is no requirement about how long a card must be in a given zone before being chosen as a target.
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Thanks to everyone who replied so quickly and correctly! This explains and confirms what I thought, but wasn't 100% sure as I wasn't confident scrap trawler could work the way it did. Thanks again to all involved.
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1) Wurmcoil died so it creates the tokens as it goes to the graveyard, then all three are in the graveyard.
2) Myr retriever returns Wurmcoil engine to my hand.
2) Scrap trawler senses itself going in so returns the myr retriever to my hand, and wurmcoil engine so it returns itself to my hand.
Final result is all three are back in my hand. The way I understand it is that because they all go into the grave at the same time their effects all go off, but I can choose the order? I'm sure I'm missing a step or rule, so could someone help me figure this out or suggest a solution/ example?
EDIT (Sep. 20): Add additional assumption.
You can target Scrap Trawler itself with the Scrap Trawler ability referring to Wurmcoil Engine (since Scrap Trawler's converted mana cost 3 is less than Wurmcoil Engine's, 6), and Myr Retriever with the Scrap Trawler ability referring to Scrap Trawler (since Myr Retriever's converted mana cost 2 is less than Scrap Trawler's, 3), but you can't target any artifact cards with the Scrap Trawler ability referring to Myr Retriever, since a card with lesser converted mana cost than Myr Retriever's isn't in your graveyard. Finally, you can target Wurmcoil Engine with the Myr Retriever ability.
EDIT: Correction after comment 6 was posted.
EDIT (Mar. 17): Correctness edit.
Yes. Here is a sequence in greater detail.
The targets in step 6 are all cards that were put there in step 5; there is no requirement about how long a card must be in a given zone before being chosen as a target.