So, I guess I am probably worrying about this for nothing but here is sort of the situation. My commander is Toshiro Umezawa and he has a trigger that goes on an opponents creature dying. If someone were to wrath the board, normally speaking, creatures see each other dying and I would get a death trigger for each creature dying.
I guess my question here is, does the fact that I want to put my commander in the command zone instead of the graveyard in a wrath change him from seeing the other death triggers?
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603.6d Normally, objects that exist immediately after an event are checked to see if the event matched any trigger conditions. Continuous effects that exist at that time are used to determine what the trigger conditions are and what the objects involved in the event look like. However, some triggered abilities must be treated specially. Leaves-the-battlefield abilities, abilities that trigger when a permanent phases out, abilities that trigger when an object that all players can see is put into a hand or library, abilities that trigger specifically when an object becomes unattached, abilities that trigger when a player loses control of an object, and abilities that trigger when a player planeswalks away from a plane will trigger based on their existence, and the appearance of objects, prior to the event rather than afterward. The game has to “look back in time” to determine if these abilities trigger.
Example: Two creatures are on the battlefield along with an artifact that has the ability “Whenever a creature dies, you gain 1 life.” Someone plays a spell that destroys all artifacts, creatures, and enchantments. The artifact’s ability triggers twice, even though the artifact goes to its owner’s graveyard at the same time as the creatures.
If multiple creatures enter or exit the battlefield at the same time, they will all see each other do so, triggering all appropriate affects for one another.
example: The death of your Harvester of Souls will result in you drawing one card for each of your other nontoken creatures that also went into the GY via Damnation.
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Example: Two creatures are on the battlefield along with an artifact that has the ability Whenever a creature dies, you gain 1 life. Someone plays a spell that destroys all artifacts, creatures, and enchantments. The artifacts ability triggers twice, even though the artifact goes to its owners graveyard at the same time as the creatures.
edit, in your case of going to comm zone, no - replacement effect.
I just wasn't sure as I hadn't really thought about the objects going to different locations but leaving at the same time. It was just an odd realization that I did not know the exact wording of why creatures saw each other for death triggers.
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I have officially moved to MTGNexus. I just wanted to let people know as my response time to salvation decks being bumped is very hit or miss.
I just wasn't sure as I hadn't really thought about the objects going to different locations but leaving at the same time. It was just an odd realization that I did not know the exact wording of why creatures saw each other for death triggers.
When I was younger, a friend explained it to me like this:
The creatures are skydiving into play. They all see each other coming down and landing. They wave hello.
As they all fall into their own holes in the ground, they see each other dying. expletives are exchanged.
I guess my question here is, does the fact that I want to put my commander in the command zone instead of the graveyard in a wrath change him from seeing the other death triggers?
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example: The death of your Harvester of Souls will result in you drawing one card for each of your other nontoken creatures that also went into the GY via Damnation.
From comprehensive rules:
Example: Two creatures are on the battlefield along with an artifact that has the ability Whenever a creature dies, you gain 1 life. Someone plays a spell that destroys all artifacts, creatures, and enchantments. The artifacts ability triggers twice, even though the artifact goes to its owners graveyard at the same time as the creatures.
edit, in your case of going to comm zone, no - replacement effect.
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I just wasn't sure as I hadn't really thought about the objects going to different locations but leaving at the same time. It was just an odd realization that I did not know the exact wording of why creatures saw each other for death triggers.
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When I was younger, a friend explained it to me like this:
The creatures are skydiving into play. They all see each other coming down and landing. They wave hello.
As they all fall into their own holes in the ground, they see each other dying. expletives are exchanged.
I buy HP and Damaged cards!
Only EDH:
Sigarda, Host of Herons: Enchantress' Enchantments
Jenara, Asura of War: ETB Value Town
Purphoros, God of the Forge: Global Punishment
Xenagos, God of Revels: Ramp, Sneak, & Heavy Hitters
Ghave, Guru of Spores: Dies_to_Doom_Blade's stax list
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Donald's list