maybe you should give us some context on 1) how you're currently utilizing him 2) whats in your deck 3) anything at all that might be useful besides the 2 colors you're playing
If you wanna use Gideon, Champion of Justice effectively you must either eliminate their hand and board, then drop him for a few turns of unanswered beatings, find a way to make him evasive every turn or find a way to lock down their board until he can get an insane number of counters on him.
Sphere of Safety is Gideon's best friend in my U/W deck because it slows their attack, doesn't kill their creatures and allows him to get a ridiculous number of counters while you essentially just protect him and hold a Terminus in your hand for when he gets big enough to kill them so you can wipe, activate, counter their inevitable removal and win in one swipe.
As for as R/W is concerned... hmm... I think you might be better off without him unless you can figure out a way to keep him from getting offed real quick-like. Might be better off with just a few more points of burn.
Convert your boros standard deck into a modern Naya deck, run doubling season, then watch his loyalty go up fast enough where he might actually ultimate.
Anyhow, the best I can come up with myself is a game in the top 8 of a PTQ back during Urza block in which we were starting game 3 with time already expired, so the tiebreaker rule was that whoever had more life after 3 turns would win. And I lost to... healing salve.
Note that if you do this, remember that only counters added as part of an effect are doubled (so the number he starts with and the number he gets when his first ability resolves), not the counters added as the cost of using his abilities.
Yup, I'm fully aware of that and appreciate you reminding everyone just in case others don't realize this. Alas, it's still the only way I can think of to make him viable enough to play with for now. Who knows, perhaps in a couple years he and Tibalt will be the sleepers that blossom and quadruple in price somehow.
Anyhow, the best I can come up with myself is a game in the top 8 of a PTQ back during Urza block in which we were starting game 3 with time already expired, so the tiebreaker rule was that whoever had more life after 3 turns would win. And I lost to... healing salve.
Maybe I'll trade him. Any suggestions on what a good trade. I want good aggro or control cards for my boros deck. Any suggestions???
It depends on a lot of things
Honestly I'd recommend you post your decklist on the appropriate forum (I'm guessing you play Standard/T2) and go from there.
Be aware that Gideon, Champion of Justice isn't worth much these days (He's going for 8 bucks on Cardkingdom) so you won't be getting much for him in terms of power level. While he certainly sucks at the moment I still think he's pretty cool so I'd suggest keeping him.
The only good thing possibly is SwDS (since he gets loyalty as an effect of his first), but that's really not saying much.
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Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
I'd like to state that while I am one of gideon's most vocal detractors, i mean that he is terrible in the current meta.
gideon would be at his best in a dedicated control deck.
the problem with that, is that instead of coming down and doing something when a control deck NEEDS to be doing something against the overpowered aggro decks we have now, gideon comes down and they untap and kill you immediately.
if creatures aren't both fast and undercosted, which they currently are, gideon would actually be a decent must answer threat. he comes down, goes to say, 7 or so. you protect him with a fog or whatever, untap, wrath, swing for 7. boros charm makes that 14 damage immediately.
this pretty much.
he's a 4 mana conditional beater that does nothing upon entering the battlefield.
Sphere of Safety is Gideon's best friend in my U/W deck because it slows their attack, doesn't kill their creatures and allows him to get a ridiculous number of counters while you essentially just protect him and hold a Terminus in your hand for when he gets big enough to kill them so you can wipe, activate, counter their inevitable removal and win in one swipe.
As for as R/W is concerned... hmm... I think you might be better off without him unless you can figure out a way to keep him from getting offed real quick-like. Might be better off with just a few more points of burn.
I'd hold on to him for now honestly
I traded mine the instant I opened up from my box but his value has plummeted since then
I'd hold out on the hope that there will be something that synergizes with him in Dragon's Maze or maybe even the Friends block
Unless you are way into competitive stuff (be it Modern or Standard) there's no reason to ship him out because he's not very good (for now?)
Yup, I'm fully aware of that and appreciate you reminding everyone just in case others don't realize this. Alas, it's still the only way I can think of to make him viable enough to play with for now. Who knows, perhaps in a couple years he and Tibalt will be the sleepers that blossom and quadruple in price somehow.
Nobody does
He might be the first PWs designed for limited only (I think Tybalt was a different kind of experiment)
It depends on a lot of things
Honestly I'd recommend you post your decklist on the appropriate forum (I'm guessing you play Standard/T2) and go from there.
Be aware that Gideon, Champion of Justice isn't worth much these days (He's going for 8 bucks on Cardkingdom) so you won't be getting much for him in terms of power level. While he certainly sucks at the moment I still think he's pretty cool so I'd suggest keeping him.
The only good thing possibly is SwDS (since he gets loyalty as an effect of his first), but that's really not saying much.
On phasing:
gideon would be at his best in a dedicated control deck.
the problem with that, is that instead of coming down and doing something when a control deck NEEDS to be doing something against the overpowered aggro decks we have now, gideon comes down and they untap and kill you immediately.
if creatures aren't both fast and undercosted, which they currently are, gideon would actually be a decent must answer threat. he comes down, goes to say, 7 or so. you protect him with a fog or whatever, untap, wrath, swing for 7. boros charm makes that 14 damage immediately.